Ok Hillary Supporters, have you FINALLY heard enough from your candidate? Do you get it now??

[RBInMaine]

That she will say ANYTHING and do ANYTHING to get this nomination. ZERO boundaries.(?????) She has invoked the RFK assination to justify staying in the race (IOW - "Obama could get shot, so I better stay in.") She has gone kitchen-sink. She has thrown Obama under the bus while supporting McCain. She piled onto the Rev. Wright flap. She has used fear tactics from the 3am call ad to ads with Bin Laden. She has flip-flopped time and again (i.e. on CLEARLY supporting the DNC rules with regard to FL/MI, on being a "worker" for change and not a a "fighter", on playing the gender card, etc. etc. etc.). She has reinvented herself TIME AND AGAIN. She has had to loan her campaign millions of dollars time and again due to poor money management. She has played the race card and the class card. She has crapped all over the caucus process and the smaller and "red" states to explain away HER FAILURE to properly organize in them, (and this is a personal insult to me being from a smaller caucus state). She has flip-flopped on MoveOn.Org and has CRAZILY thrown them under the bus, claiming CRAZILY that they "took over" caucuses and "intimidated" her voters which is why she lost those races. And on and on and on. She has ZERO shame. She will finish out the next two weeks, and then she needs to gracefully exit, toot sweet ! If she doesn't, the SUPERS MUST and WILL flock to Obama in DROVES and end this IMMEDIATELY after June 3rd. In the meantime, I hope and suggest the Hillary supporters will see that she has done far too much damage to our party to be able to be VP. At the same time, with the proper apologies to Obama AND us the Dem party voters and the American people, she and Bill should receive a signal that Obama would give strong consideration to involving them in the administration, him as an honorary emissary and she, perhaps, in a cabinet job. (Sec. of Education would be a good spot. Maybe attorney general with Edwards as Sec. of Labor or Sec. of Health and Human Services.) In short, Hillary is DONE, and she must gracefully GO on June 4th. AND, her supporters need to accept why she lost, why she can't be VP, and get behind the Obama ticket or else you'll get McCain and four more INSANE years of Bush/Cheney policies.

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[StevieM]

2. That's not who Hillary is. You are just a hateful person. And Hillary was already going to

drop out on June 3 or 4. But now you have an excuse to say that this is why.

Enjoy your McGovernite defeat in November.

Steve

[Gore1FL]

3. The real excuse

Is that she got her ass handed to her in the race for a majority of delegates for the nomination.

This incident just makes the choice of the electorate look that much better.

[TimesNY]

5. And people like YOU are going to vote for McCain? Well THAT makes sense! eom

[CaptJasHook]

6. Enjoy your Candidate's part in that defeat. If it happens.

And your part in that as well.

[CreekDog]

9. well now she has made herself unelectable

if the idea was that she would have done better in November than Obama, that could be argued a while back but she is her own undoing and not more electable than Obama based on her campaign tactics, strategy and statements.

[StevieM]

10. Her campaign tactics have been misrepresented by the new Joe McCarthy, Obama.

The strategy you speak of is fiction. And this statement has been twisted beyond any sane interpretation.

Steve

[CreekDog]

13. Obama called her a communist?

we need quotes sir.

[RBInMaine]

14. You say Obama = McArthy ??? YOU GIVE "NUTS" A WHOLE NEW MEANING !

[DerekJ]

19. Are you NUTS?!! .. Obama's camp didn't even try to capitalize on it.

[muryan]

24. Yea when I Obama, I definitely think McCarthy

In other news, you're an idiot.

[RBInMaine]

12. We'll only lose in November is people like you insist on being sore losers and allow McCain to

continue to screw our country. And YOU, NOT I, will be ENTIRELY to blame. Either grow the hell up and get behind our candidate or help McCain continue to fill body bags in Iraq. THAT is the choice in this election. SUPPORT OBAMA OR THE BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS ! PERIOD !

[StevieM]

17. How are things up there in the clouds? (eom)

[CaptJasHook]

20. How are things down there in the gutter?

[qijackie]

23. Now that is really funny!! Thanks for the laugh!

[RBInMaine]

16. "Hateful" enough to offer her a cabinet spot as long as she properly apologizes? GET REAL.

[Ken Burch]

22. Why would you want us to have a McGovernite defeat?

Obama clearly deserves the support of the voters who've backed HRC. He's just as strong on their true concerns as she is. It's sickening that you don't care about stopping the war. You can't be a decent human being and think that letting the war go on for another four years just to avenge your candidate's defeat.

HRC wouldn't want you to vote for McCain.

[dchill]

45. "HRC wouldn't want you to vote for McCain."

Are you SURE?

[Ken Burch]

49. I'm taking her at her stated position.

n/t.

[dchill]

51. I just don't do that anymore.

I can't.

[AZBlue]

26. And now you're defending her? Seriously? What kind of disgusting person are you?

[burythehatchet]

34. did I tell you that I'll miss you?

[mkultra]

38. weve seen who she is pretty clearly.

[apocalypsehow]

4. And you'll find her boosters have just as little shame as their Queen - witness their defense of the

indefensible all over GD: P. It is disgraceful and disgusting.

[BlooInBloo]

8. They really do match their candidate.

[BlueStater]

7. Yawn n/t

[OzarkDem]

11. I don't think you even believe what you're saying

Get over it, Obama still can't close the deal, no matter how much Rovian spin he puts out.

[RBInMaine]

15. GET REAL ! THE "deal" has been closed for weeks now. She knows it, and so do you. Give up the pipe

dream.

[OzarkDem]

30. Saying it doesn't make it real

Go sell it somewhere else. Even the voters aren't convinced.

Clinton is still beating McCain



Obama isn't

[Mz Pip]

21. And Hillary can only

"win" using Rovian math. :shrug:

[mkultra]

39. shes in just in case someone puts a bullet in Obama's head, maybe a WV or KY voter

[dchill]

46. Don't you mean OzarkRep, at this point?

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

50. It maybe impossible to beat the McCain/Hillary machines

But, I still have the audacity to Hope.

[saracat]

18. And you expevct this kind of rant will move hillary supporters to your camp?

You are NUTZ and blind to any of your candidates machinations. I pity Obama. With such support he hasn't a chance should he be the nominee in Nov.

[AZBlue]

29. Wow...I'm shocked to see you defending her.

That's disappointing.

[RBInMaine]

40. You will either support the Dem ticket or you will help McBUSH fill body bags in Iraq. You choose.

[RBInMaine]

It's a justified "rant," AND I still offer Hill and Bill roles in the cabinet, which is damn FAIR !

[slinkerwink]

43. and you defend her statement?

Hell, if Obama said this, I would've left his campaign.

[CreekDog]

25. no they don't

they will be supporting her 3 weeks after Jesus comes back. :eyes:

i admire loyalty, but sheesh.

[MethuenProgressive]

27. RFK Jr: "...it is a mistake for people to take offense."

:hi:

[OzarkDem]

32. Thanks RFK, Jr.

He knows its a non-issue.

[uberllama42]

28. Paragraphs are your friend n/t

[lastknowngood]

31. Kiss My A** You KO and every other repug loving fool.

Go ahead you dumb ass keep it up I'm done with all of you Hillery and Bill hating assholes. If I were her and Bill I would just say good buy, you lying jackasses have called her and bill everything in the book. They were best the dem's have had for almost 50 years and you jackasses have called them racist and "the white Bitch" Karl Rove want to bes and everything else. So you go ahead you fuc**** assholes try to win with half of the democratic party and no one with any ability to speak. If I were them I would write you fools off and make money and be happy and let you shit heads stew with 8 more years of repug rule. And in case I have been to subtle Fuck Off!!!!!!!!!

[RBInMaine]

35. First, get back on your meds. Next, read my whole post and you'll see that I say if she apologizes

she should be highly considered for a cabinet post. That is NOT tossing her out. I voted for Bill twice pal, so just calm the heck down. You don't need to lecture this lifelong Dem activist and local party official on the contributions of the Clintons. But YOU must also be fair. Hillary has made many mistakes, many of which I cite. She has lost the nomination fair and square. She has been out-organized and out-campaigned and out-financed. That should tell you something. Now, unless you want 4 or 8 more years of INSANE McBUSH policies and you want to fill body bags with more dead GI's in Iraq, you better damn well support the Dem ticket, work for it, and help make it happen.
This is bigger than you and me.

[Catch22Dem]

36. LOL....Nuuuuuuut Jooooooooob!!!

:rofl:

[dchill]

48. "Hillery" - really?

And no, you haven't been "to subtle" - but you'll get there, eventually.

[Beregond2]

33. I agree with everything except the idea of offering the Clintons any part in Obama's administration

They have long since proven themselves to be irrational and untrustworthy. The sooner they fade into the woodwork, the sooner we can start to rebuild this country.

[RBInMaine]

37. It remains though that we need their help campaigning, and with the RIGHT APOLOGY she is worthy of

serious cabinet consideration. She has screwed up bigtime and done a fair amount of damage, yet party healing still has to occur, and this has to be a part of it.

[marions ghost]

41. agree with most of what you say

but NOT:

'she and Bill should receive a signal that Obama would give strong consideration to involving them in the administration, him as an honorary emissary and she, perhaps, in a cabinet job. (Sec. of Education would be a good spot.'

Bill could be an honorary emissary to Easter Island and Hillary would do well as an inspector in a catfood factory in China.

Far away, far far away....

[RBInMaine]

44. See my reply just above. Still gotta heal the party. Gotta have them campaigning. She needs to

PROPERLY apologize, exit VERY graciously, and THEN she gets cabinet consideration. She has done a lot to piss us off, but still has many supporters, important constituencies on her side, and her overall service to the party remains important. Hey, I voted for Bill twice and still support them over any R. But she has blown it in this primary and needs to move on gracefully upon apologizing the right way.

[marions ghost]

47. I agree that we have to heal the party

and Hillary's exit will let the healing begin.

If she's interested in continuing in public service, she can try to keep her job in the senate.

There's no way she deserves anything from an Obama administration. Any supporters and constituencies she has left will just have to decide to give Obama a chance or go back to their think tanks.

I supported Bill too, but this is a new day now.

[slinkerwink]

42. they don't care. They defend her. They think it's okay to cite an assassination as a reason to stay

in the race.