If Obama loses in the GE it will be Clinton's fault. Period.

[woolldog]

I don't care if after this is over she does a 180 and starts calling for unity etc.

She has been actively trying to poison the well so to speak, poison the electorate against him and sabotage his chances in the general election, so that she can go to the superdelegates after she's trashed him and say he's unelectable and they should go with her. Well it's NOT going to work. It is also a disgusting despicable strategy, that harms the party. History will not judge her kindly.

What a turd.

:rant:

[grantcart]

1. especially if she continues after this:

[cali]

2. ack. too many unknown variables to make such a blanket statement

[woolldog]

3. She's succeded in poisoning the well.

[VeraAgnes]

19. You sound like a re-run of Hannity and Combs!

You need to read your own post.....your blaming obama's failures on a Clinton....just like with all of *bush's failures, Hannity too blamed a Clinton.

Democrats are a cut above these games. Surely this is an loss of control/passionate over-site.

[saracat]

41. Ain't that the truth. Another reason Obama reminds some of the incumbant.

They always blame someone else. It seems they must be afraid of losing!

[shadowknows69]

44. You've lost it

Your former candidate would be ashamed of you.

[dionysus]

50. please name some things Obama has done that are even remotely bush-like...

[saracat]

52. The lack of experience , the stupid comments yesterday about Iran

the 57 states remark, the Selma remark, his lack of transperancy regarding his birth certificate and other issues, his corrupt associates, his attempting to straddle the fence and claiming to be a "unifier" and the complete arrogance of his attitude.I could go one and on and on but there is too much there. But you will never see it.Whatever.

[Cosmocat]

4. Agreed ...

A day is a year in politics ...

The drama of this primary fight will be long unremembers, and while Hill has thrown crape at him, the right would have thrown the same crape and will throw more ...

He loses, he loses on his own merits ...

[mac2]

5. No it will be the parties fault for allowing the small conservative

states to pick the primary candidates before the rest of us even have a voice or vote. This time even our candidates dropped out after two or three conservative state primaries.

Dean was going to demand someone "concede" the primary before the convention. The convention is for the delegates to discuss issues such as Iraq, immigration, debt, trade problems. He wants to silence those.

Resign Dean. You are not a king maker. Certainly not a party leader of democracy and the workers of America.

[woolldog]

8. She's divided the party.

[mac2]

10. No...the party can't allow even the primary winner to divide

it on the issues important to the members. We have a Congress and many state runs as well. The President does not decide all issues or policy. He is a leader not a KING!!!

[Fresh_Start]

11. the party has always been divided

the leadership should have managed the situation better

[mac2]

16. There are factions and disagreement in our party just like the

others.

The New Democrats (who are really Republicans) and Progressive Democrats are more divided than ever. Problem is the New Democrats and DLC won't fund or allow the Progressives power.

Progressives want a change. The others just talk about during elections. The last win was by Progressive in both parties wanting change. It did not come as promised.

[woolldog]

17. Some of the narratives she's deployed have been pernicious

and taken hold among democrats, and become self-fulfilling prophecies. And I'm not talking just about Appalachaia. This was deliberate.

[Straight Shooter]

15. Then the party is too weak to begin with.

A house must be built strong enough to weather any storm.

[VotesForWomen]

47. *she* divided the party?? do you know how insane you sound? put down the koolaid now.

[Fresh_Start]

9. I agree failure of party leadership nt

nt

[Texas Hill Country]

6. this is a dumb statement. period.

[Abacus]

7. True or not, that will be the perception

She can't afford for him to lose.

[mac2]

13. A perception which is forced on us not the other party.

Is this from Obama headquarter or Rove's office of disinformation?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

12. THIS THREAD IS THE TURD!

[mac2]

14. Clean up your own waste.

[EnviroBat]

26. Ugh, not again...

"Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!Hillary!Hillary! Hillary!Hillary!"

[Lone_Star_Dem]

18. If Obama loses in the GE it will be the fault of foolish Democratic voters.

Who are all responsible for their own thoughts and actions.

[PBS Poll-435]

20. This sounds like a classic case of buyer's remorse.

And you forgot to mention the current keywords!

No "Kitchen Sink" - Lose 8 points.

No "Scorched-Earth" - Lose 5 points.

No "Huckabee" - Lose 1/2 point

And...

No mention of FEC data - Lose 7 points.

This OP has earned a score of 79.5% - C+

[jillan]

21. IBTL - If Obama loses, it will be nobody's fault than his own.

It is him that cannot connect with the deep south or blue collar workers.

[jillan]

22. dupe

[Diane R]

23. I absolutely agree with OP. Hillary's goal is now to deny Obama the presidency.

[graycem]

24. She's certainly trying to make it seem that way..

she's in Florida right now insinuating that this whole debacle is the same case as 2000. Like she doesn't know it's going to be ruled on, on May 31st, and if it's ruled on except for how she wants it to be, then it's "not fair." So now she's making the argument to people that she's being treated like Al Gore. After all the agreeing she did before, "it's clear they're not going to count for anything", the pledge she signed, she has no right to be misinforming people this way and making herself the "victim" of an unfair election, the very thing she is trying to do to Obama.

[ShortnFiery]

25. HRC has run a dirty and mud slinging campaign eom

[BOSSHOG]

27. Ahh another cult member practicing his Unity skills

by shitting on anyone who doesn't agree. Very nice indeed. Please tell us who would Senator Obama shit on.

So are you saying Obama is a republican, that he is not responsible for anything?

[jobycom]

28. If he loses this election, this year, with all that's happening, it will be HIS fault alone.

He's running against a hated party whose nominee is too old, too mean, and too loyal to the past president for anyone to love. The media is tripping over itself to praise him and put him in the White House, and Clinton's campaign against him has done little more than turn people against her. Her attacks haven't even caused him to lose to HER.

If he loses, he's got no one to blame but himself.

[romana]

29. No

This statement is utter horseshit and says more about Obama's weakness as a GE candidate, perceived by even his own supporters, than anything about Clinton or her campaign. As primaries go, this has been tame, and if he's so weakened by it that his supporters are afraid he can't win the GE in November then he shouldn't be the nominee. Statements like this, from Obama's own supporters, strongly suggest that on some level they know Obama is weak, and has baggage that's going to hurt our chances in November. But rather than acknowledging that, and working to overcome it, you point fingers at someone else and blame them and the problem persists. I don't like it when Clinton or her supporters point fingers and absolve themselves of blame for their mistakes, and I don't like it when Obama's supporters do it, either.

When Obama is the nominee, he becomes the head of the party, and the election is his to win or lose. If he loses it, he owns it, just as he owns it if he wins. Period.

[durrrty libby]

30. If he loses, it will be because the masses voting for BO The American Idol

finally realize BO has been unmasked as a Milli Vanilli type fraud

[aquarius dawning]

31. He's already lost the GE I suspect and it's not Hillary's fault, it's the fault of people like you

who seem to have skipped Poli-Sci in favor of math.

[VotesForWomen]

43. yep, but i think they skipped math too.

[SeaLyons]

32. No, it will be his fault....period!

[Traction311]

33. It will be his own fault

For running while still in his first term as Sen., instead of waiting until 2012 or 2016.

[WinkyDink]

34. How conVEEEEnient.

[Xenocrates]

35. UNHINGED

Pull yourselves together and chill. Its not June yet.

[woolldog]

36. k

:kick:

[Blue_State_Elitist]

37. LOL

If Obama can't win the general given the state of the war and the economy, he is the ONLY one to blame.

[MyNameGoesHere]

38. Well if Obama is that fragile why are you still supporting him?

Look he has to make it on his own little 2 feet. Regardless if he got smacked around in the campaign. If he can't overcome that then he never was the great savior everyone made him out to be.

[Generator]

39. I can't stand Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton these days but

I really won't blame them. It's like blaming a three year old for bad behavior. It's WHO THEY ARE. I've known it for some time-others are just waking up to the Clintons as being in it for the Clintons first and sometimes last-screw the country,screw the party.

I want (finally!) a real Dem with real spine who won't back down. That's why after being an Edwards supporter I've warmed greatly to Obama. I want to see him handle the Clintons, handle the Florida/Michigan mess. If he can beat the Clintons and do it with diplomacy that freaking hypocrite McCain cannot beat him.

[2rth2pwr]

40. If Hillary loses in the GE it will be Obama's fault. Period.

Sounds like whining baby talk either way.

[VotesForWomen]

42. ah, dems blaiming their failures on somebody else...makes me proud to be a democrat. not

[Autumn]

45. If Senator Obama loses,

it will be his fault,no one else's.

[woolldog]

46. I stand by what I wrote in my OP.

[Major Hogwash]

48. She's the Tonya Harding of the Democratic party.

She's trying to kneecap Obama before he can face McCain.

[durrrty libby]

51. He's Milli Vanilli of American Idol. An absolute and complete Fraud

[Norwood]

49. Agreed

Having a tough fight in the primary over the issues is one thing, but when you start citing Karl Rove and contending that the Republican opponent is better is just way over the line. I'm shocked how low Hillary has gone.

[pnwmom]

53. That's ridiculous. You have no idea what sort of election fraud may go on

in the general election, or what kind of swift-boating from the McCain camp.

There were and are plenty of things that could derail Obama's candidacy even if HRC had NEVER been in this race. The next several months against McCain are going to make the primaries look like summer camp.

[Bake]

54. Looking for a scapegoat already?

What happened to the "sure thing" landslide in November?

Bake