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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:02 AM
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WTF? 28% of Clinton Supporters Will Vote For The Straight Talk Express
What the HELL is up with this? What kind of mental deficiency can explain voting for an absolute lunatic like McCain over Barack Obama? Is it spite? Is it immaturity? I would love an explanation that MAKES SENSE.:wtf:

PRINCETON, NJ -- A sizable proportion of Democrats would vote for John McCain next November if he is matched against the candidate they do not support for the Democratic nomination. This is particularly true for Hillary Clinton supporters, more than a quarter of whom currently say they would vote for McCain if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/105691/McCain-vs-Obama-28-Clinton-Backers-McCain.aspx


That isn't all - the poll also finds that 19% of Obama supporters will defect to the DARK SIDE if Senator Clinton is the nominee!:wtf:

Who in their right mind will vote for McCain over either one of our Democratic Party nominees? McCain is worse than that ignorant chimp we ALL despise.

Honestly, this is very disturbing. No matter how much hope we all have for the candidate of our choice this kind of defection to the enemy camp is totally unjustified.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:04 AM
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1. Pfff. These numbers will go down as temperatures cool.
I ain't worried.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:04 AM
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2. I think it's anger and resentment.
And I think that most of it will pass by November.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:05 AM
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5. I certainly hope
both post #1 and #2 are correct. It is scary.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:06 AM
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8. I think they will evaporate fast...
If Obama picks a Woman as his VP.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:04 AM
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3. It makes perfect sense if you're a closet racist.
What other reason is there to take someone with roughly opposite views to your candidate over someone with fairly similar positions?
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:05 AM
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4. yup!
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:08 AM
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9. I saw
a piece on the news about something like 10% of Hillary supporters admit they can not vote for a black man. THOSE ARE THE ONES WHO ADMIT IT. I am sickened by this.

What is up with the 19% who wont vote for Clinton?

Ahhhhhhh.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:10 AM
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12. There really can't be too many other reasons
Others could be:

They like McCain better than Obama

They want a Bush third term

They like the war

They like high gas and food prices

They don't care if more people lose their jobs or homes

They don't care if 50 million Americans don't have healthcare

An Obama supporter said something bad about Hillary

I think that's about it
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:59 AM
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32. Agreed
sad huh?

47% of Democrats will defect?

I am horrified that this is plausable
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:11 AM
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13. What's amazing is that many people ARE racists - but they'll deny it to their dying day.
Edited on Wed May-21-08 08:11 AM by ShortnFiery
It's amazing that some of the most racist people will DENY that they are "prejudice" AT ALL. :crazy:

We all harbor prejudices, however, most of us REFLECT constantly to understand the source of non-objective feelings.

Racists (and larger term "bigots") BELIEVE that "all prejudice" is some sort of ON/OFF switch that their "good character" has already overcome. They need not monitor themselves because they've (according to themselves) already achieved "altruism" (see Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs). :eyes:
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:25 AM
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25. Or they really don't think they are, like Archie Bunker
The poor bastard really didn't think he was a bigoted racist

"I got nuthin' against youse people"

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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:35 AM
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37. Archie Bunker
was a mirror for MILLIONS of bigots - racists....

He did the world a service.

that is all.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:06 AM
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6. I am sure that there are various reason for this
1) Some will be bitter supporters who are mad their candidate didn't win (many of them will be back by November)

2) You have all the cross over Republicans that helped her artificially inflate her numbers.

3) You have bigots and racists who would NEVER vote for a man who is half black

4) You have those that still think Obama is a Muslim and will not vote for him because of that


I think 2-4 is a small group and it will be easily over come by all the new Democrats Obama is attracting/creating
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:06 AM
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7. I can't help but suspect if many of these are indirectly part of RushBo's "Operation Chaos"
:shrug:
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:12 AM
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15. I can't buy this one
and I am not trying to be argumentative - really.

It's due to a lot of talking I've had with a well known talk show host, who is a personal friend, who has explained the impossibility of getting radio listeners to change party affiliations just to screw up a vote. Just getting people to boycott a place like WalMart is never really successful. (for an example)

:shrug:
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:13 AM
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33. I agree. They were likely never really supporting Clinton or Obama in the first place
I know in Ohio and in several other states, many Republicans registered and voted as Democrats to spoil the numbers, often to the extent that we ran out of ballots in a few precincts! I forget the actual numbers, but I want to say that in parts of Ohio it turned out that up to 9% of the Democratic voters were Republicans. Granted, I would even say some of them are likely to be legitimate crossovers, but... Come on.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:08 AM
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10. This Hillary supporter will never vote repub.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:14 AM
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16. Thank you
you are a sane person ----:hi:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:23 AM
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22. That's because you're brilliant AND nice. nt
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:10 AM
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11. Keep this in mind. During the 2000 Repub primary, more than twice as many McBush3 supporters said
they would never vote for Bush.

By November, they nearly all voted for Bush.

The "sore loser" threats from supporters of the primary candidate who loses is a common phenomenon. Don't put much weight in such threats.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:11 AM
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14. Wow, either way, either side...
...whoever votes for McCain over the Dem is a damn moron. Plain and simple.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:15 AM
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17. absolutely
correct

:thumbsup:
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Hola Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:21 AM
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19. Legacy of the Solid South
Edited on Wed May-21-08 08:23 AM by Hola
This is Kentucky - About 25% of Dems here voted for Bush in 2004. A similar number also voted GOP in 2000. Even Clinton lost about 24% of the Dem vote here in 1996 - which was split between Dole and Perot.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/KYpres.html

Bill would have lost that state if it wasn't for Perot. You know Bill's base - eggheads and AAs mainly.


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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:31 AM
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28. It's just sad...
...to see people voting against their interests, y'know? I will never get it, I guess. :\
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:15 AM
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18. Just saw on MSBC that Bush got about 33% of dems in KY when Kerry ran against him
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:22 AM
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20. Then they're stupid as shit. nt
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:26 AM
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26. Yep, that's what I think too.
There is no other interpretaion. There will always be a certain segment of voters who are unable to think.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:13 AM
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36. I'd say
I have seen smarter shit in my life.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:23 AM
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21. They don't vote their economic issues
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LucyParsons Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:23 AM
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23. THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE McCAIN IN NOVEMBER ANYWAY
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:45 AM
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29. I don't buy that
at all.

Too many Hillary supporters here who have said the same thing and they were long time DUers - I am sure there is a portion of out of touch, fake Democrats who would vote for that total shit head McCain :shrug: but 28%? 19%

47% are totally delusional ass wipes who will put a Reverend Haggee hugging, Jesus Camp, flat Daddy, Bush hugging idiot in the WH?????
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LucyParsons Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:49 AM
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30. Those people are obviously idiots
Sorry, there's no other way to put it.

Anyone who is so blindly devoted to demagogue Hillary Clinton that they would vote for McCain to teach the rest of us a lesson can kiss my ass. And I'm a feminist.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:24 AM
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24.  Back your bags
And get your asses over to the republican party then. We don't want anyone that would vote for McCain to call themself a real democrat.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:30 AM
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27. Amen!!!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:50 AM
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31. They're throwing a tantrum. They'll get back on board as they realize what McCain is.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:59 AM
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35. That is a hell of
a big tantrum.

I am saying the combined total defectors is 47%.

How is that number possible?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:51 AM
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39. Certainly. Voting Nader turned out to be the right move in 2000, why not in 2008?
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:21 AM
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40. Nader
is insane and a waste - He has fucked up some fairly decent elections.

You can't be serious.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:50 AM
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38. This mental deficiency explaines why the chimp
sits in the White House today.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:50 AM
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41. That and
it helped when he was appointed by the supreme court.
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