Randi; Hillary Will Run As An Independent

[SoFlaJet]

scary thought-she is friggin crazy and will get all the angry Hillary supporters to follow her right over the cliff with her and put John McCain in the White house-she is scaring me...

[WeDidIt]

1. Randi is a dingbat

First, it's too late to mount an independent run.

Second, it would destroy Hillary for all time in politics, not to mention devestate her husband's legacy comepletely for all times.

[Yes We Did]

6. It's too late to even get her name on the ballots. n/t

[SlipperySlope]

34. Simple: McCain - Clinton 2008

[Yes We Did]

46. Not even HILLARY wants it THAT bad.

[DearAbby]

38. It would have to be a massive WRITE IN Campaign

may get some of the Clinton supporters...but not all. No chance in hell. Obama will take the GE. YES WE CAN!

[AZ Criminal JD]

70. False

The earliest deadlines for independents are in late June in some states. Some state's deadlines are in September.

[Exilednight]

96. Texas's already passed. If you did not have the required signatures 3 weeks ago, you couldn't .....

get your name on the ballot. Somewhere around 15 states have already had signature deadlines pass.

[AZ Criminal JD]

107. Not true.

According to the Federal Election Commission there are three states (Texas, Nevada and Utah) who have May deadlines or before. http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2008pdates.pdf These early deadlines were challenged by third parties in 2000 and 2004 and the courts allowed candidates on the ballot.

[Exilednight]

111. According to that list, 11 states have already had their deadline pass............

unless they belong to certain third parties who hold their conventions after the filing date. Gotta read the fine print.

[AZ Criminal JD]

127. Nader and Buchanan both sucessfully challenged these restrictions in 2000 and 2004

But believe what you want.

[Exilednight]

128. Yes they did, but again - read the fine print .........

Some third parties, like the Greens and Libertarians, are allowed on the ballot after the filing date. A "true independent" would not be allowed on the ballot, and Hillary would be disallowed for running for another party's nomination.

[Texas Hill Country]

44. yep, randi is moronic.

[Yes We Did]

48. Oh please, until two months ago we all loved her.

And after this is all over, we will all go back to loving her.

[Texas Hill Country]

57. no, actually, i didnt. i was never really a fan....

[Occam Bandage]

67. I never liked Randi. I don't intend to start liking her any time soon.

[cali]

81. Don't even get me started. I've always had nothing but contempt

for that stupid, hysterical asshole. And I was bashed like crazy over it. I still have nothing but contempt for that idiot.

[Texas Hill Country]

112. yup... agreed.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

115. I listened to her daily for seven years.

She was the best talk show host on radio, hands down.

In the past 2 or 3 months, she has totally lost it. It really is very sad.

[Exilednight]

97. I've never been a Randi fan. I always compared her to Limpballs. n/t

[TheDebbieDee]

56. Oh dear......has Randi fallen off the wagon, again?

[seriousstan]

2. Once again proof Randi can't stay off the bottle.

[SeattleGirl]

13. What proof do you have that she has a drinking problem?

This kind of thing pisses me off; accusing someone of this just because you don't like them.

[SoFlaJet]

29. I know SG

these fucking people are assholes...Randi does NOT have a drinking problem-it must be another Taylor Marsh talking point

[SeattleGirl]

30. Or something.....

I know people with real drinking problems; throwing something out there like that as an insult is hitting below the belt.

[Seeker30]

61. Huh? She drinks like a fish

Its common knowledge.

[SeattleGirl]

119. Common to who?

Never heard this until she started supporting Obama.

[Seeker30]

120. Obviously everyone but you

[SeattleGirl]

122. Funny, I know lots of people who don't think so, and who don't make

blind judgments of others based on one incident THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN WITNESS.

[TheDebbieDee]

68. What proof does Randi have that Hillary will run an Indpendent

Campaign? Randi has no proof - only the hunches she sees at the bottom of an empty bottle and the speculation she pulls from the crack of her a$$ and tries to pawn off as "fact".

[SeattleGirl]

74. She was speculating.

What? That's now allowed anymore.

And btw, unless you have proof that Randi has a drinking problem, stop throwing that crap out there.

[TheDebbieDee]

90. Excuse me but if it walks (and stumbles and cracks it's teeth) like

a duck, quacks like a duck and acts like a duck then I'll call it a drunk - with or without your permission. If Randi's unsubstantiated crap can be posted on DU, so can mine. This is what GD:p has devolved to! Hadn't you noticed?

[SeattleGirl]

93. Still no proof.

I guess I won't be holding my breath for any either.

[chimpymustgo]

95. Sounds like 90 proof, if she's pulling sh*t like this out her ass.

[SeattleGirl]

103. Oh, so only people who have a drinking problem pull shit out of their

asses? Then at least half the people who post on this board are drunks. (And I am not making any distinctions between the two sides.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

116. Randi never used to "speculate"

She always cited her sources. Told her listeners that they should not believe her at face value and they should first look it up for themselves.

Now she "speculates." Which is no better than the crap Limbaugh or Hannity spews on a daily basis.

Again, it is a tragic fall from the top for a once talented talk radio show host.

And this comes from a 7 year listener.

[movonne]

Maybe you should also...

[AllentownJake]

3. Too late

She can't get on the ballot in 4 states. Two of them being Florida and WV. By June 3rd it will be 7 states by the time of the convention it will be about 40 states.

Can we stop this nonsense its counter productive.

[Crabby Appleton]

4. I doubt it. nt

[PM7nj]

5. I think she is wrong.

Although I think she may be right about Hillary forcing herself on the ticket as VP.

[JuniperLea]

7. Randi has completely lost it

She needs to lay off the booze. Jeez.

[movonne]

28. Maybe you should do the same...

[JuniperLea]

64. You have no idea what I'm about

Your "neener neener" is really silly.

I know you are but what am I?

:eyes:

[Strawman]

8. Not a chance. She won't do that

[DJ13]

Randi likes going over the top and guaging listeners reactions

Dont take her seriously.

[DS1]

9. Randi still gets air time?

[msallied]

10. First of all, it's not possible. Second of all -- where's she gonna get the MONEY?

[KingFlorez]

11. She will not

Randi Rhodes doesn't have a clue what she is talking about.

[WeDidIt]

14. Wow, this thread united Hillary and Obama supporters

in a resounding "Randi is an idiot" fest...

:-D

[elfin]

12. Plus Randi says that she will force the VP choice

for her at the convention.

Those are the only two reasons Randi can think of to explain why she is STILL running.

I think the second scenario is more plausible than the first - mainly because she is out of money.

The thought of her as VP makes me crazy - and I imagine it does for Obama as well.

[msallied]

15. What's interesting is that a pro-Hillary poster the other day advanced that same argument

that Obama would be UNABLE to deny her a spot on the ticket if she wants it. All based on some opinion article. It looks like we got paranoia on one side and delusion on the other. Yikes.

[Hieronymus]

27. While discussing this possibility, it came up that Kennedy offered

the VP to Johnson, thinking he'd refuse.

[marshall]

76. Yikes, that's not a good precedent.

[LisaM]

92. If Obama wins, the thought of Hillary not being VP makes ME crazy!

Ironic, isn't it? No matter what happens, one of us will have to be crazy.

[stahbrett]

16. Could she become the nominee of a 3rd party, however?

Not sure which one, but there are tons of them... it seems likely that with her name recognition that she could wrangle the nomination of one of them at least.

[WeDidIt]

19. It's too late

and she'd never do it.

She is a Democrat to the very core of her being.

[movonne]

31. Maybe not to the core of her being...and she sure has a funny way

of showing it...

[msallied]

47. I would disagree about the depth of her Democratic values.

Especially given her DLC ways. But I think she is shrewd enough to know the consequences of jumping ship at this point in her career.

[msallied]

22. I think the process is about the same, if not harder...

And would be just as disastrous for her reputation. And there is still the money issue. Nah... this issue is dead in the water.

[Tempest]

39. She can be Bob Barr's running mate

Now there's a ticket worth watching for the entertainment value.

[thoughtcrime1984]

17. That is paranoia speaking

That will not happen, as it would result in a McCain victory, and the Clintons' image would be completely sullied, and they would not be welcome in the Democratic Party going forward. Nobody is that damn stupid.

[msallied]

26. Hell yes... Can you effing imagine? The ire toward Nader from Democrats is bad enough

and he was never really in our party. lol

[juajen]

84. You think they're welcome now? The treatment of the Clintons

by the party leaders is the reason her supporters are so furious. I believe most will follow wherever she wants to go. The party has effectively left us and them.

[rucky]

18. No she won't.

But that would sure give her something to tawk about.

[cali]

20. Randi Rhodes is a fucking idiot

and so is anyone who believes this shit. Hillary is far from stupid and she's not about to commit political suicide and destroy the Clinton legacy.

[JuniperLea]

66. There you have it, folks... I agree with cali 100%

This is rather Earth shattering... and it must be 100% fact if the two of us agree so fully.

[cali]

75. Yep. If you and I agree on something

odds are it's rooted in something real.

[Toucano]

21. No she won't. Not in a million years. n/t

[cboy4]

23. And to think I actually used to like Randi

:crazy:

[sufrommich]

24. Randy needs to put the bottle down.nt

[SeattleGirl]

32. Stop it.

Just because you don't like her is no reason to say something like that.

You throw out accusations with no proof to back it up.

Disgusting.

[rinsd]

58. self delete

[Occam Bandage]

65. Yeah, I remember the "mugging." She fell over drunk. And yeah, she's a loon.

[SeattleGirl]

77. Where is the proof?

I keep asking those of you accusing her of being drunk, or an alcoholic, or whatever, and I get exactly nothing.

[Occam Bandage]

87. You're right. I bet she was completely sober walking out of that Irish bar, when she

fell and broke several teeth.

And then tried to blame it on a "mugging," before backing up and saying that she "fell walking her dog by her apartment," before admitting that she was walking out of a bar, but then suggested that she fainted due to lack of food (wtf?) or someone bumping into her, and then she refused to answer for it.

Yeah, no, she wasn't drunk at all.

And people getting fall-down drunk hours before they're supposed to go on air, missing work, and then making a number of bullshit excuses about it is absolutely totally unrelated to drunkenness. Sober people do that all the time.

http://gawker.com/news/developing/was-talk-show-host-randi-rhodes-jumped-by-14-ketel-ones-311453.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGdR3iEGSMQ

[SeattleGirl]

98. Excuse me but being drunk is not the same thing as being A drunk.

Have you ever gotten drunk? Anyone you know ever gotten drunk? Ever trip, or stumble while drunk? Does that automatically make you or them A drunk? Or just drunk?

And yes, people do stumble, trip, and/or fall when they're stone cold sober.

[Occam Bandage]

102. And like I said:

Most responsible drinkers don't get fall-down drunk in broad daylight, a few hours before they have to work. Alcoholics will.
Most responsible drinkers will admit when got drunk and did something stupid, and won't make up a bunch of flimsy excuses about their episodes. Alcoholics will.

And most stone-cold sober people who fall:
1. Possess some recollection of falling.
2. Attempt to break their fall with their hands.
3. Are not walking out of a bar.

[SeattleGirl]

104. Sorry, but it takes more than one incident, and speculation, to

make an accurate diagnosis of alcoholism.

[Occam Bandage]

106. "Accurate diagnosis?" I'm not wearing a white coat here. She's a lush, and you're in denial.

Edit: Seriously. This was common knowledge *before* she humiliated her employer over it. We aren't all just making this up in some grand conspiracy.

[rinsd]

80. At the same time I realized that spending time insulting Randi.

Is time I actually spent caring what she had to say.

God I hate scream radio.

[Occam Bandage]

91. I also can't stand her. I tried listening to her show once. She's as painful as any

right-wing blowhard. Air America is a wreck because most liberals simply don't appreciate loudmouth jackasses yelling at them.

[Occam Bandage]

63. Misreply.

[weezy2736]

110. 4 more wins....

Completely unrelated to politics, but I don't see many Wings around here as often as I used to.

Plus... a thread everybody likes! I've gotta get in on this.

Edited fer spelling.

[DinahMoeHum]

25. Methinks Randi is acting like a shithead.

WTF has been going on with her lately?

Yeah yeah, I know she's no longer on Air America, but I really don't have time to tune into Nova Radio either.

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[FlaGranny]

49. Stop smoking that crack, it

makes you sound like an idiot.

Actually, I don't really mean that, but that's the kind of response your post begs for.

[Occam Bandage]

71. Why? That's the wording Ms. Rhodes thought appropriate for Sen. Clinton.

And it's pretty common knowledge that Randi's a drunk, yeah.

[2rth2pwr]

78. You must not know much about Randi, she thinks it's funny to call women fuckin' whores.

She uses it in her "comedy routines", and she drank a lot of Ketel One bloody mary's at her local dive without eating, stepped outside to

smoke on the street, passed out and smashed her face in.

[FlaGranny]

125. I don't know Randi?

I live in the same area and I've been listening to her since the early 90's. She's a good person. I hate to see a good person maligned. You only hate her because she feels the same as I do about Clinton - disappointed. Randi says that any Democrat who wouldn't vote for Clinton in the GE is crazy. Bet you'd just love Randi if she were disappointed in Obama instead of Clinton. The thing is - sometimes I'm not so sure Randi is right that we should vote for Clinton if she gets the nomination because Clinton is really angering me. Are tou still going to badmouth Randi if Clinton steals this election and Randi is urging everyone to vote for her?

[yourguide]

35. she can't - no money.

[Exilednight]

100. She has 90 million of her's and Bill's bank account left. n/t

[LTR]

36. I like Randi, but Hillary isn't going to run as an indie

She and her husband are too wrapped up in the Democratic establishment. Besides, if she bolts off on her own, she will lose the support of over half her followers, who will likely stick with the Dems. As a result, she merely becomes a spoiler, and on every Democrat's shitlist.

With the Dems poised to build on their Senate lead this year, they could have room to, oh, ostracize her, as they could possibly do with Lieberman.

In addition, Bill's legacy becomes tarnished within his own party. He doesn't want that.

My theory is that she's still in the race to pay off debts and to formulate a graceful exit strategy and transformation to an Obama GE campaign. She'll bow out and support Obama. That's the way these things usually work out.

[spanone]

37. i really doubt it....really

[BearSquirrel2]

40. Her and who's bank account ??? (nm)

[uponit7771]

51. I'd like to know where she'd get the money from too

[Bucky]

41. You're not really mad at Hillary; You're mad at the Hillary in your head.

This is an example of psychological projection, not of political discussion.

[crankychatter]

86. A projection from my own internal cosmology... Clinton is an Archetype for me

demon straight out of my own personal nether realm

she speaks to me non stop... over and over and over... an incessant harangue

"shame on YOU, crankychatter... shame on YOU, crankychatter"

OMG.... SHE'S HIDING IN MY CLOSET!!!

[Bucky]

94. Can you imagine the embarrassment if you actually *met* Clinton in person, but called her "mom"?

"Ooops, sorry, senator! I... uh... I mean, 'mama'! Yes, yes, that's it. I meant to say 'GoMama'! (heh)"

[Texas Hill Country]

42. many of the state ballot registrations have already passed.

[uponit7771]

53. That and what money would she use?

[AZ Criminal JD]

73. That is false

None of them have passed. The earliest deadlines for third parties and independents are in late June. The latest ones are in September.

[Thrill]

43. I don't think Hillary would do that

[demokatgurrl]

45. Oh she will not, calm down. n/t

[Clear Blue Sky]

50. No way...

[reflection]

52. Not a chance. She would be crucified

for sabotaging what should be a Democratic cakewalk.

[Mezzo]

54. Randi should KNOW better, because it's IMPOSSIBLE, but that wouldn't stop that fucking whore

from trying to further sully Hillary. If it's good for the goose and all...

[ima_sinnic]

55. she can run for Pres for the Connecticut for Lieberman Party, with Joe again as VP

or vice versa

it's a match made in heaven! :rofl:

[FlaGranny]

59. Are you sure she really said it like that?

I haven't been listening to her today, but seems to me she'd be more likely to be throwing out ideas because she can't figure out what's in Hillary's mind. It wouldn't be the first time somebody has wondered what Hillary had up her sleeve.

[styersc]

60. Randi's liver could use a rest.

Maybe she can room with Brittney and Lindsey the next time they head to rehab.

[SeattleGirl]

82. Proof??????????

Y'all like to throw accusations out there, but offer no proof that she has a drinking problem.

If you don't like her, fine.

But throwing out shit like that without any sort of proof just shows that you're pulling it out of your own backside.

[2rth2pwr]

108. Hard to find a picture of her w/o a drink in her hand. The first one, her shirt is wet with it.

[Seeker30]

109. What more do ya need?

[Occam Bandage]

62. Randi is a loon.

[Yukari Yakumo]

69. No, she won't

Only if she's fanatically stupid (or insane) and willing to commit career suicide would she do it.

That's said, no way in hell she'd consider that option.

[Lreyla]

101. Clinton legacy

uhh..too late!

[Seeker30]

72. Randi would have went back to truck driving by now if she wasnt such a drunk

Fortunately for her waking up, drinking a bottle and babbling to a microphone isnt against the law.

[Skip Intro]

If she did, I'd vote for her, straight Dem downticket, but I don't see it happening. Randi=nutcase.

[Fox Mulder]

79. Oh great..

if Hillary does that, then McCain will win in November.

She'll be like what Nader was like in 2000. :grr:

[LisaM]

83. That is a crazy remark.

Hillary is a solid Democrat and would never do any such thing, which Randi well knows. In fact, I don't even know that Randi's a DEMOCRAT - progressive yes, Democrat, not so sure.

If you didn't think Randi was being nuts about Hillary before this, this ought to prove it. She's off her rocker about it.

[book_worm]

85. Hillary is smart enough to know that such a move would kill her in democratic politics.

[indimuse]

88. RR ,the HO opens her LYING trap again..

I think when THAT "Something" happened to her...you know what I'm talkin about...whatever it was , has caused her BRAIN DAMAGE!

[mdmc]

89. Barr-Clinton

:toast:

[shaniqua6392]

99. She must be drinking again.

Hillary Clinton is not our enemy. She is a competitor, but she is not the enemy. When your favorite sports team is playing against another team, the other team is not the enemy. Randi just does not seem to get that. Her hatred of Hillary is non productive for Democrats. She is being a terrible example of a progressive Democrat by spewing her vomit on the radio. She has already lost a ton of listeners and a job. She was lucky to get picked up by someone else, but if she continues with this crap she will lose so much more. Most radio or television personalities that are supporting Obama at this time would also support Clinton if she were the nominee. Randi would still be ripping on Clinton even if she became the President.

[knixphan]

105. Randi's unstable.

I like her on the days she's kinda on-target. The other days, she's just too lowbrow, reminding me of the girls who annoyed me growing up in Queens...

Anyway, Hill-third-party = visually interesting car wreck.

[zulchzulu]

113. I don't see that happening

It makes for good radio, but not for good reality.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

114. Randi has gone off the deep end in the most tragic of ways.

She used to be the most talented political talk show host on radio. She was excellent at citing her sources and not spouting unsubstantiated gossip.

Now, she is barely recognizable. She's a caricature of her former self. She's become like Limbaugh and Hannity in pulling things out of her arse without any factual support.

[FedoraLV]

117. Wow

Attacking and demeaning someone without proof because you don't like what they're saying. Destroy the messenger. (Especially with photoshopped pictures or baseless online whisper campaigns.)

Hm, where have I heard that before? How many good Dems and brave truthtellers have I seen that directed at, already?

(Rep. Conyers, please give us justice!)

-FedoraLV

[susankh4]

118. Randi needs to go back to rehab.

She is hallucinating again.

DTs.

[NashVegas]

121. Crisco: Randi's a Nutcase

[tritsofme]

123. dupe

[tritsofme]

124. Good thing Randi is a know-nothing idiot.

Who has no special knowledge or insight.

[Chalco]

126. It's so over with Randi. She's gotten delusional. nt