Ed Kock says he may support McCain over Obama????

[Greenwood]

Now, I certainly hope Hillary is our nominee. Without a doubt. However, if it is Obama he will have my vote.

But, THIS is the type thing that really scares me about an Obama/McCain matchup.

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/koch_mccain_endorse/2008/05/19/97366.html?s=al&promo_code=62AC-1

[Drunken Irishman]

1. Koch backed Bush in '04, so this isn't a surprise.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. Yes, I'm sure you're very concerned.

:eyes:

[gabeana]

3. whats the big deal

he supported Bush in 2004

[BrklynLib at work]

4. Koch has not had adequate bloodflow to his brain in decades.

Don't pay any attention to him..no one else does.

[Doityourself]

18. *snort*

[PBS Poll-435]

5. Who is that guy and what is his line of work?

Porn?

[DAGDA56]

27. Some typos are deadly....

[beachmom]

6. He supported Bush in '04. Enough said. nt

[Exultant Democracy]

30. You are right Obama didn't lose him, he was lost a while ago.

[DJ13]

7. Koch is a pro Iraq war, pro Israel over the US neocon

He's Lieberman with less hair.

[featherman]

8. Thanks for your concern. (Ed Koch????... hahahahaha)

[endarkenment]

9. Fucknut Koch endorsed Bush in 2004. Fuck him, as usual.

[MattBaggins]

48. Ed Koch pulls this hemming and hawing

bullshit every damn election. He does his "I am forced to vote for the republican" against every Democrat in every election. It is how he gets his 1 minute of fame every year. If there is a election for dog catcher he brings his sorry ass on TV to endorse the Republican.

[VolcanoJen]

10. We'll be just fine.

Thanks for your concern.

Ed Koch is a DINO, in case you weren't already aware of that.

[demokatgurrl]

11. Not unexpected from him. He's a repuke in

(sometimes) Dem clothing.

[slinkerwink]

12. Koch backed Bush in '04

[YOY]

13. I don't like you now. Thanks for asking Ed

n/t

[mcctatas]

14. Ed Koch....

didn't he used to be somebody important? Oh well, the old farts have to stick together;) (BTW, why are you slumming at newsmax?)

[pompano]

20. This is HUGH!!11!11

Who is he?

[ShortnFiery]

15. Good riddance Ed Koch!

:eyes:

[invictus]

16. Ed Koch is another Joe Lieberman, maybe worse since he endorsed Bush in 2004. n/t

[DFW]

17. the article also says that Ed Loch has a lot of weight with Jewish communities in the USA

Oh really? Most of the Jewish people I know who even remember him do so as
a crotchety old guy who acted halfway like a nut case when he was mayor of
NYC and more than halfway so since. I wouldn't worry too much about the Jewish
vote suddenly going to McCain just because of Ed Koch and Joe Lieberman. We're
in bad shape if those two carry more weight than Carl Levin and Barbara Boxer.

[BrklynLib at work]

24. Absolutely true...Especially here in NYC. He has become somewhat of a laughing-stock.

[speedoo]

19. Yeah, Ed Koch is just your kinda guy, there "scared".

The Zell Miller of the north.

[bluestateguy]

21. Kerry won NY without him in 2004, Obama will do the same

Some people jujst want to be obsessed with "radical Islam", as if that has somehow killed more Americans than 47 million people with no health insurance.

[DAGDA56]

22. Koch proves that being famous is not the same as being influential.

[The_Counsel]

23. You're Surprised By This?

Ed Koch is a jackass. I can say this, having lived in New York for the entirety of the 12-year nightmare that was his mayorship.

One of the biggest laughs of my life was when he said NYC voters "would have to be crazy" to vote for Jesse Jackson in the '88 NY primary. Jesse did go on to lose the state, but he carried NYC overwhelmingly. It was sort of our way of tellin' "hizzoner" to STFU... :evilgrin:

How in the HELL did Koch beat out MARIO CUOMO for mayor? And then stick around for THREE TERMS??

[Pirate Smile]

25. That jackass voted for Bush so he is obviously a fool. No big surprise here.

Chill.

[blogslut]

26. Whoa, now there's an unfortunate misspelling

;)

[kid a]

28. Tropics dude? Is that you? Sound familiar.... (do some research - Koch hearts bush)

[thewiseguy]

36. Where is he these days? I kinda miss his funny threads. lol

[NeedleCast]

38. Tombstoned

[mkultra]

29. children and tantrum throwers are meaningless.

The slide of crazy old gaurd is being replaced by twice the numbers. Tumor removal is always painful.

[BonnieJW]

31. Koch backed Bush over Kerry in 04

Koch is an ass; always has been.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

32. Koch must be PROUD 2 B AMURKIN. Like you. nt

[apocalypsehow]

33. All that "concern" is just so touching...

[DefenseLawyer]

34. Thanks Lee.

Your overwhelming fear about "this type of thing" is duly noted. As an aside, whenever they play your song at like a rodeo or a flea market do you get like $20?

[Greenwood]

41. Hey!! Easy now!! It is a great song!!

I honestly DO have it on my MP3 player.

I lift weights a lot and that and "For Those about to Rock" by AC/DC are my bench songs. Gets me pretty pumped to throw up the iron!

[DefenseLawyer]

52. Really? Do you do pushups to "Okie from Muskogee"?

Arm curls to Toby Keith's "Boot in their Ass" song? As John Lennon said, whatever gets you through the night.

[ingac70]

35. Koch supported Bush... he's like Lieberman...

a piece of shit that sullied the name "Democrat"

[MidwestTransplant]

37. Not to worry, the Koch vote won't flip NY. Also he supported Bush in 04. He is from the Jomentum

wing of the party that only cares about war with Iran.

[Thrill]

39. YAWN

[susankh4]

40. You are right to be concerned.

as this whole election is now being turned into a referendum on national security. And there is no question, as Koch says, who is going to look stronger in that debate.

When Hillary said 'Obliterate Iran" she was trying to balance this perspective... that the Dems are weak on terror. And, if we get the unity ticket that many of us seek... she may be able to do that.

But... whoa.... if Obama's running mate is someone who also can be painted as an "appeaser." The Dems will be doomed in November.

Of course, the economy will also be an issue. Had Hillary been our nominee, she would ahve made that *the* issue. But I don't think Sen. Obama knows how to play the media game as does Sen. Clinton or McCain. So he won't be setting the egenda for the GE, as he has for the Primary.

[DefenseLawyer]

50. Your jar of "Uncle Karl's Old Fashioned Fear Campaign" expired in 2005

Why is it a given that Bush/McCain is "stronger" on national security in 2008? They have an absolutely abysmal record on foreign policy. The country has changed. Reality is making a comeback.

[rch35]

59. That makes absolutely no sense.

Your whole post argues for someone that the Republican approve of. Like your "Obliterate Iran" example, your whole argument seems to be that we need someone that sounds so much like a Republican, they won't be able to say mean things about us.

You also claim Clinton is better at playing the media game. Than why HAS he been setting the agenda for the Primary, according to you? And if he has been the one setting the agenda, why would you believe that Clinton plays the game better?

[susankh4]

61. "why HAS he been setting the agenda for the Primary?"

Cuz it is politically convenient for the GOP. They like the contrast between Obama and McCain. It's easier for the voting population that sees "black and white" and rejects subtler shades of grey.

I am not referring to race here. I am referring to foreign policy.

[rch35]

66. not only did you not respond to the majority of my post,

i want to know what elements of clintons foreign policy are somehow more "subtle" than Obamas

[susankh4]

67. I did not say it was.

You misunderstand.

I am saying the media knows it is easier to manipulate the public if they have a "war hero" and "an appeaser" to draw contrasts between.

[rch35]

68. ok, well even on that,

that still goes back to my point of you seem to be trying for a candidate thats so much like the republican that they wont be able to say mean things about us

[susankh4]

69. I want a candidate that can win.

And I know a Unity ticket is the ticket.

I won't give up until we have both candidates in the White House.

[Adelante]

42. Yeah, that will hurt

:D

[Ichingcarpenter]

43. You're scared that a major Bush supporter will support McCain?

What other type of crap are you scared of? Boogiemen?
Suiciders? Iranian Al Quida? Toast? Imaginary friends?

[Douglas Carpenter]

44. of course Ed might vote for a third Bush term -- just as he voted for a second Bush term

Gallup: Key Clinton voters are shifting to Obama//Rasmussen Reports gives Sen. Obama a 62.2% chance of Winning in November

"The Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator shows Democrats leading in states with 200 Electoral Votes while the GOP has the advantage in states with 189. Rasmussen Markets data gives Democrats a 62.2 % chance of winning in November (results are updated on a 24/7 basis by market participants).

Rasmussen Reports believes the race is over and that Barack Obama will be the nominee of the Democratic Party. We will stop tracking the Democratic race in the near future to focus exclusively on the Obama-McCain match-up"

Gallup: Key Clinton voters are shifting to Obama



Real Clear Politics NATIONAL Average: Obama 50.8/Clinton 41.3

The nomination poll is an average of the latest polls from Gallup, Rasmussen, Quinnipiac, and ABC News/Wash Post

link:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html


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Real Clear Politics NATIONAL Average: Obama 47.0/McCain 43.6

The general election poll averages the latest polls from Gallup , Rasmussen, Quinnipiac,ABC News/Wash Post,POS/GQR and LA Times/Bloomberg

link:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

Why Sen. Obama is likely to win and win BIG!!

I think it’s VERY possible!!...I'm cautiously optimistic myself

There are a number of reasons.


Among them:

1. Analyst predict that oil could very well reach $200 per barrel

over the next six months. link:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=armYFIWZS8V0&refer=home

There are many, many factors affecting the massive rise in oil price. It would not be a stretch to assign some of the responsibility to the policies of the Bush Administration. But regardless whose fault this is, the consequences will reverberate throughout the entire world economy and the incumbent President of the United States and his Party will be held responsible in the eyes of many, many Americans. There is no doubt that many, many Americans will associate John McCain with the problem. This has the potential to create for John McCain and the Republicans a political disaster this coming November.

2. And all of this aside, Rasmussen which has many times be criticized for having a Republican bias reports trending very favorable to the Democrats and very unfavorable to the Republicans. - link:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

"Rasmussen Markets data gives Democrats a 62.2% chance of winning in November (results are updated on a 24/7 basis by market participants)."
"Underlying this dismal outlook for the GOP is the fact that more and more people are considering themselves to be Democrats. In fact, the Democrats now have the largest partisan advantage over the Republicans since Rasmussen Reports began tracking this data on a monthly basis nearly six years ago. "see also this Rasmussen report on Party identity trending:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

3. And on top of everything else, along with a very low interest level as reflecting in very low primary participation, the Republicans are having a lot of trouble raising money for the Presidential campaigns:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.php

4. President Bush Job Approval. Bush Job Approval Falls to Another All-Time Low: http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/pol...
"Sixty-five percent (65%) disapprove of the President’s Performance, up two points from a week ago." "Also in April, as the President’s Approval Rating slipped, the number of Americans who consider themselves to be Democrats remained near the highest levels ever recorded by Rasmussen Reports."

5. Democrats Trusted More on All Ten Electoral Issues Tracked by Rasmussen Reports:

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues/trust_on_issues

"American voters now trust the Democrats on all ten key electoral issues tracked regularly by Rasmussen Reports. Last month, the GOP’s had an advantage on two issues.

Not surprisingly, the economy is still seen as the most important issue in this year’s presidential campaign--76% of voters say it is a Very Important issue. The Democrats now have a 14-point advantage over the Republicans on this issue, up from eight-points a month ago. Data from the Rasmussen Consumer Index shows that consumer confidence is currently hovering near record lows. Not only is confidence low, three-out-of-four Americans believe that economic conditions are getting worse.

Government Ethics and Corruption is a Very Important issue for 71% of Likely Voters. The Democrats have a huge advantage on this issue—45% now trust them while just 26% prefer the GOP. That lead has also widened since last month, when the Democrats had only a six-point advantage.

Perhaps the biggest surprise comes from the fact that Democrats are now trusted more when it comes to National Security and the War on Terror, an issue long considered a GOP stronghold. The latest polling, however, shows that 49% of voters now trust the Democrats more on this issue while 42% trust the Republicans more. This shift comes at the same time that confidence in the War on Terror has fallen significantly."

[book_worm]

45. That nut endorsed Bush in '04 and gave Carter a hard time in '80

Good riddence.

[BklynChick]

46. I live in NYC and Ed Koch is a racist. Not surprised at all.

[Raineyb]

71. Me neither

My grandmother, who hates Republicans, used to vote Republican just to get his sorry ass out of Gracie Manor.

He's truly a DINO and a worthless one to boot.

Regards

[americanstranger]

47. Koch is an irrelevant dickhead.

Who cares what he thinks?

If he could, he'd vote for himself. Put that man and his towering ego in a room, and everybody else has to sit outside.

- as

[Crunchy Frog]

49. No big surprise there as he also supported *. He's as much a "Democrat" as Lieberman.

[billyoc]

51. Thank You For Your Concern. nt

[Doctor_J]

53. Koch backed Bush, Giuliani, and Pataki, so of course he's supporting the winger

:shrug:

[truebrit71]

54. Who is Ed Kock? He sounds like a dick...

...Newsmax.com....really? :eyes:

[haymakeragain]

55. He's an Israeli, this makes me like Obama more.

Kissing zionist ass is so last century.

[FredScuttle]

56. I bet you scare easily

if you're so paralyzed by fear that you'd post something from Newsmax as a legitimate source.....about a nutjob DINO who voted for Bush in 2004, for Christ's sake....rambling that he'll vote for McCain.

Our powder is dry over here, but thanks for your "concern"

[Mass]

57. Koch supported Bush in 04. Nothing to do with McCain.

[Mass]

58. Koch supported Bush in 04. Nothing to do with McCain.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

60. Who gives a shit about Ed Koch?

Racist old bastard who broke a strike by union transit workers and favors the death penalty. He supported Reagan in '80 and supported Bush in '04. Now he's a contributor to Newsmax -- let's look at some headlines, shall we?

"The Case for Going to War"
"Jews Should Support Bush"
"Moore's Film is Shocking Propaganda"
"Why I Can't Vote For John Kerry"
"Al Gore's Kyoto Hypocrisy"
"Cindy Sheehan's Shameful Rhetoric"

Fuck him. He's human filth.

[scheming daemons]

62. If you're reading newsmax, your motives are suspect..... Mr. "Concern Troll"

[MarjorieG]

63. Koch always endorses the GOP. Campaigned in 04 that Bush was better for Israel.

A dangerous nut job .

[Mimosa]

64. He's a DINO-SAUR

[Forkboy]

65. Nice concern. You did well to include the "but...". Never fails.

[Raineyb]

70. Ed Koch was a worthless piece of shit when he was mayor

And having been kicked out of the office he's no better now.

No doubt he's still trying to punish the Democratic party for choosing David Dinkins over him in the primary in '89.

Koch is a joke, even people in the city (by city I mean the 5 boroughs) don't pay him any mind. I can't remember the last time his endorsement meant anything. He's like Senator Clinton, he doesn't know when to gracefully go away either.

Regards