Maddow, Ferraro on gender factor

[mystieus]

Video:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24716757#24722757

[CherokeeDem]

1. Wouldn't it have been nice...

if Ferraro could have shut her mouth long enough to let Rachel get a word in? I swear, I have fought for women's rights since I was 18 but I tell you, I cannot vote for a candidate just because she is female. We should keep up the fight for equality but not at the expense of making narrow choices ourselves.

[Crunchy Frog]

13. Rachel was holding back. n/t

[mystieus]

16. Her examples of this so called Obama sexism were weak.

Obama didn't dismiss Hillary as a candidate when he brushed his shoulders off: he was showing that he can take punches with the best of them. That had little to do with Hillary and more to do with the moderation of that debate, which some felt was unfair to Obama. Second, her point about Hillary being "beat up" during the debate being sexist was even worse. Go back and look at the early debates of both parties and you'll see everyone ganging up on the presumed front runners: Hillary and Rudy. It had nothing to do with her gender

[Aloha Spirit]

2. Ferraro possesses that rare human ability to never believe you could possibly be wrong, ever.

[ShortnFiery]

3. IMO, it's not rare but SOP to the logic of Right Wingers.

I should know - I live among them. :shrug:

[Aloha Spirit]

4. Exactly! That deafness and conviction is unmistakable. There is no talking to these people.

And yes, I don't really think Ferraro has any unique qualities, she is a very typical jerk.

[ShortnFiery]

8. I had to cut a long distance phone conversation short with one of my beloved

close relatives who uttered as an aside, "Well, Ted Kennedy, that MURDERER should still be in jail." :wow:

My extended family *drink the koolaid* and do not let the facts get in the way of their hate.

It breaks my heart but ONLY THEY can break down that RW wall of "willful ignorance." :(

[mystieus]

11. Hillary ran a terrible campaign, that's a fact and for them to call people sexist etc is very tellin...

[mystieus]

7. What was that "white" voters thing she threw in at the end? sad.

[mystieus]

5. Maddow wasn't given nearly enough time to respond.

[ShortnFiery]

6. Rachel Maddow is IMO, truly a beautiful and apt role model for young girls.

I'm so proud of Rachel's conduct sitting next the VILE behaving Geraldine Ferraro.

That's the choice we have in our women role models: Do you want WOMEN leaders who use "gender issues" to promote themselves OR those who stand on their OWN personal character and intellect.

IMO, the choice is clear.

[democracy1st]

9. Yes Rachel just basically let that poor woman talk and we all saw bs

[mystieus]

10. It may have been for the best... come to think about it.

[goclark]

23. Rachel was being so kind ~ in my opinion too kind

She let Geraldine control the interview IMO and that is not like Rachel.

[Crunchy Frog]

12. I wish Rachel would have said more.

Proabably holding back because she didn't want to rake some crazy old bat over the coals.

[Renew Deal]

14. Ferraro throws in her racist bullshit right at the end.

She should quit the act and just declare what we all know. She doesn't like black people.

[mystieus]

15. I notice that as well. Embarrassing

[jenmito]

17. Ferraro claimed the "whipe the dirt off your shoulder" gesture was sexist?! She

claimed it was "arrogant" and "dismissive" of him to do that. First of all, it was in response to attacks by Hillary and secondly, it's a move in a rap video. Even after Maddow TOLD her where the gesture came from, she not only repeated that it was arrogant, but said, paraphrasing, "Maybe that's why people are voting for him..." :eyes:

[Aloha Spirit]

18. And the way Rachel responded is exactly why she is my hero. She said it was interesting to see how

two feminists could interpret the same thing differently.
Ferraro has zero interest in engaging ideas.
She is only interested in feeling superior to others.
And that's why she's an ugly person.

I hope none of this goes against my pledge to be nice to Hillary and her supporters?

[jenmito]

21. I agree. She's so smart (and classy in the way she handled Ferraro's comments.)

What's WRONG with Ferraro? Her racism came shining through. I hope other women saw it, too.

[ashrob123]

19. I'm infuriated by this interview

Ferraro makes feminist seem silly. I saw the debate back in December and Hillary was NOT being jumped on because she was a woman. She was being "jumped on" because she was the person to beat. She was supposed to be the nominee and everyone knows that. If Edwards had been ahead on the polls, raised more money and had the brand name, believe me he would have been shark bait. You cannot assume that she's being "beat up on" because she's a woman and provide no source of proof other than watch the debate. Ridiculous. So essentially, anything that happens against Hillary is sexist because she's a women. How ignorant.

I think Ferraro's statements cheapens instances of the real sexism that happen that are both blatant and latent. She needs to sit down and STFU and not because she's a woman but because she's starting to sound like a lunatic.


It amazes me how out of touch she is with popular culture. Even my grandmother (87 this year) knows about Jay-Z and the brush it off gesture that people use. Geez.

[Bensthename]

22. Yes Hillary was the front runner at the time

and that is who has the target on their back for attack.. Now that Obama is the front runner he is attacked like you said. And the brush it off was towards the ABC moderators and that pathetic excuse for a debate, not Hillary..

Ferraro is out there, and sees things no one else sees. She needs to stay out of the media.

[DCofVA]

20. How bout the way Rachel was looking at Ferraro

It was like the way she would look at some poor homeless woman pushing an empty shopping cart down the street babbling on and on incoherently. It was a look of pity and amusement at the same time.