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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:53 AM
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Obama: a sexist b#$tard?
By now, all of us here at DU have become quite accustom to the constant bombarding of Barack Obama as just another sexist man. Is this really the case, or is this a bullshit cop-out, meant to destroy the party?

Following the agreed upon rules of the Democratic Party, Barack Obama is leading by the one category that matters: delegates. His lead in this area is unassailable and feasibly impossible to surpass. Among other categories that "matter", Obama leads nearly all: He has the most votes, the most number of primary states, the most number of caucus states, the most money, and the most public support.

Let us all be clear: Hillary Clinton cannot win this election through traditional means. Period. Obama has won this campaign fair and square. The only avenue Hillary has left of becoming President is by denying Obama the highest office this fall. Cue the legions of Clinton supporters who vow to either: a)stay home in November, or b) vote for John McCain in November. Are they lobbing these threats out of concern for their country, or are they doing it because of anger?

Women have been oppressed throughout history by their male counterparts. That is incontrovertible. However, sex relations in 2008 America are at the pinnacle of history. Are there still stereotypes out there that negatively impact women? yes. But there are also stereotypes that hurt African-Americans, Latinos, and even affluent progressives. Has sexism been a main aspect of this campaign? NO. Obama has NEVER sought to belittle Hillary because of her gender, and has never once stated that she was unfit to be President because of her gender. Obama has never attributed the results of a primary loss to women supporters of Hillary, and he has never used women as a wedge issue. Contrast that with Hillary's campaign, that belittled Barack's South Carolina win BEFORE the vote was even counted. Hillary has pushed the grossly inaccurate meme that Obama is an elitist who is out of touch with "hard working Americans, white Americans." (Me thinks that it is Hillary who has the far greater net worth, and me thinks it was Obama who became a community organizer instead of following lucrative job offers.)

I do not know how this race became a fight of men against women, and I want it to fucking stop. Look at the last fucking eight years and tell me if this bullshit sexism accusation helps anything. Does it help bring our troops home? Does it provide health care for our citizens? Does it return the right of Habeas Corpus? NO. It is the supreme height of arrogance and disdain to smear a candidate as being sexist, especially when it is immorally attributed.

To place the plight of "sexism" over the plight of "racism" is beyond irresponsible; it is bigoted and disgusting. Barack Obama has legally gained an insurmountable lead in the Democratic Primaries and Caucuses. To try and steal it from him is not only unethical, morally bankrupt, and childish; it is destructive to democracy.

In this country, people have the right to support whomever they wish for President. They even have the right to purposely destroy another candidate's chances. That does not make it moral. That does not make it acceptable. To those that wish to push the bigoted meme that Obama is a "sexist", it seems obvious to me that the general election does not matter to you if Hillary is not the nominee. I hope you can live with the consequences of your infantile behavior.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:42 AM
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1. Obama sexist? Yeah, right!
His wife is a strong independent woman and so was his mom.

It's the Clinton campaign that's been playing the sex card and the race card. Which is sad, she doesn't need to do it and she might make a good president - but the politix of character assassination don't smell right to me. Tell me how your policies are better than his, why you could do the job better. And I'll vote for you. But she's turning even die hard Dems against her.

Khash.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:51 AM
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2. I was being sarcastic with the title..
:P
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:36 AM
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7. Sure is Mom was..that's why he was raised by his grdpts..???
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irish.lambchop Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:57 AM
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3. With Michelle as his partner?
No chance in hell that he's a sexist and as the father of two daughters, I imagine he and Michelle want for them the same opportunities afforded (fill in the blank).
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:06 AM
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4. If he even tried it
Miichelle would slap him down so hard, he wouldn't know what hit him.

She's gonna be a great First Lady!

Khash,

(Michelle Obama for Prez!)
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:24 AM
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16. While I agree that Obama is not a sexist,
it hardly burnishes his credentials to imply that the only thing keeping him in line is fear of a smackdown from his wife.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:35 AM
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20. I wuz joking!
Think it through... he married a very strong, intelligent woman. Says something, huh? I was just being silly.

Khash.
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:15 AM
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5. I'm not proud of bashing Hillary and was once a supporter of her campaign...
...but I must agree that she has conducted herself in a way that is inexcusable. She had everything going for her when this all began. Leading by a wide margin in the polls, she alone has to be blamed for not using better judgment in the way she has conducted her campaign. She was up against a formidable lineup of qualified candidates and she ended up in second place. I was even willing to recommend her for VP, as the primaries began to indicate that Barack was going to pull it out of the hat. I once thought that the Obama/Clinton ticket would be the truly dreamy team. BUT NO MORE! What finally nail the coffin on Hillary for me was her (and Bill's) disgraceful display of the race card. Many here have tried to convolute the issue by saying Barack was the first to dredge up this issue, but they are sadly mistaken. I have listened carefully to as much of the campaign talk as possible and I never thought his conduct was anything but gentlemanly and eloquent.

Old slimy political mudslinging has become passe. If you can't make a substantive case for your own merits then you certainly don't have the right to tear down your opponent with crass and ugly lies. No candidate should have to refute bullshit that has no basis in fact.

And why did she think that her experience would trump the public service experience of the other candidates? Yet she continues to beat this old mule even after it has proven to be a detriment to her campaign.

The only thing I can say to Hillary now, as if she cared, is get a grip, get a life, get out, and get a new hairdo.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:29 AM
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6. It's not women against men. It's white women against a black male...
who didn't "wait his turn." :eyes:
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irish.lambchop Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:38 AM
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8. Which is why I said
(fill in the blank) in my first response - could easily say 'same opportunities afforded white people' or 'same opportunities afforded men'. I truly don't understand the sexist claims against him. Have the people making these claims listened to Michelle? Do they not realize they are raising two daughters? I think we get a 'two-fer' here - breaking through racial barriers AND sexist barriers. If anyone thinks Obama is not keenly aware of the world in which their daughters are being raised, they're not paying attention.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:59 AM
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12. "Mom" didn't get out of the way of the kiddies.
She mistakenly thought she had a right to run for the office till the race was over.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:40 AM
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9. I don't think he is. There is definitely alot in the media and internet though
He is no more Sexist then Hillary is Racist
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:51 AM
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10. What I don't understand is
Why does Hillary have to be the first woman President? This country is electing woman into executive offices as govenor at an increasing rate. She may have been the first woman with a shot at the Presidency but in no way will she be the last.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:01 AM
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13. Ask yourself why so many third world countries have already
had a woman president or prime minister and then ask yourself why the "leader of the free world" has not.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:23 AM
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15. Why does it have to be Hillary?
Just because she's a woman and ran doesn't mean she deserves to be President. Just because Obama is black does give him the right to the Presidency either.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:28 AM
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17. Okay.
I can go along with that. My main objection with Obama is lack of experience, lack of voting trail and the current state of disaster that our country is in. Four years from now, I have no doubt I would have been extremely happy to vote for him. Hillary isn't my first choice, she has several positions that I don't agree with, but she does have more experience than Obama and I would have settled for that.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:44 AM
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21. In that case, let's go with Cheney or McSame
Either has many, many more years of experience than Clinton.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:01 AM
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22. Bluff, bully, and force.
(yawn) (boredom)
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:54 PM
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24. Obliteration n/t
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:53 AM
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23. Some might argue that she wasn't the first, and that Geraldine Ferraro, as a VP selection was first.
Edited on Tue May-20-08 10:54 AM by calipendence
Now, if Hillary Clinton were to somehow manipulate herself into be nominated over Obama at this point, and we have these TWO women on record as the only ones that had a shot at high office (one as a VP candidate, and the other one ultimately finagling herself in), what does that tell the newer generations of young people of color? When you see how Geraldine Ferraro has behaved, and how Ms. Clinton has also behaved in this campaign, that does NOT give a good image of women running for high office. Unless Hillary were to really do a bang up job as president (and this coming term WILL be difficult for whoever is), it may damage the prospects for other women getting high office for generations, and we might miss out on a truly great woman president later, which many of us would regret were that to happen.
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:53 AM
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11. here, here.....can't we all just get along?
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:21 AM
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14. edited.
Edited on Tue May-20-08 06:36 AM by cornermouse
Peace.
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:30 AM
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18. I'd try real hard if I was a Democrat but as an Independent I seem to
often listen to a different drummer....but I "can" go to bed. It has been a long night. Peace!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:32 AM
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19. There are only about 10 people left here who post that garbage. They are loud, annoying, delusional
repetitive, disruptive and they are trolls who will not stop until Skinner tell them they have to or they are TSd.

Nice post, but needs a bigger audience. You won't change any minds here :-)
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