Why is the media letting Hillary get away with her claim I have more popular votes

[bigdarryl]

she keeps claiming a lie. And the media lets her get away with it

[anonymous171]

1. Because no one in the Obama camp is challenging her on it.

The only way to get rid of spin is to counter it.

[Henny Penny]

15. Must be true then... count all the votes...

[Labors of Hercules]

18. Have you heard a single speech Obama has given over the past few weeks?

He counters it in EVERY SINGLE ONE.

[Bensthename]

2. That is the million dollar question.. Every one is scared shemight cry.

That is the only thing I can think of.

[jgraz]

3. Because they're lazy and they want the fight to continue

Only Olbermann is willing to do the minimal research necessary to prove that she's completely full of shite. The rest of them are enjoying the battle, because it means they don't have to worry about finding a headline each evening.

[Andy823]

32. You got that right!

That's why it is so stupid when the Clinton camp comes out attacking the media and saying they all have been calling for her to "drop out"! I have not heard one member of the media say that. They "WANT" her to stay in to keep the fight going for ratings!

[AtomicKitten]

4. The MSM doesn't want to call attention to the crazy person because her camp is screaming unfair.

[SoFlaJet]

5. the media is reporting it

with a roll of the eyes-nobody is taking her candidacy seriously anymore

[PoliticalAmazon]

6. Because Pat Buchanan will have a blubbering hissy-fit if Hillary is challenged. n/t

[Texas Hill Country]

7. because she does.

[PM7nj]

19. Yes, if you decide to count Florida, only her votes in MI, and none of the caucuses.

How democratic.

[sfaprog]

25. Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs much?

:silly:

[Alexander]

30. Sounds like you failed remedial math.

[ErinBerin84]

8. on hardball, everyone was like

"why do these states keep voting for Hillary when they know it's over?" I think it's because...a lot of these states do not understand that it is over, or why it is over, and they believe everything that Hillary is telling them about the "more votes". On CNN, they had a young man who said "I think that the math is going to be in Hillary's favor after Kentucky." I'm just not sure he knows what math he's talking about. And didn't he get the memo? It's not the math, it's the map! But then again, that would mean Hillary throwing these red state Democrats in Kentucky under the bus. And why no discussion of how McCain is the republican nominee, and there is still an embarassing number of "protest" votes against him as well, due to demographics?

[kenny blankenship]

9. That's their job. Chris Matthews admitted as much.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/07/chris-matthews-admits-msn_n_100537.html

Backing Crusades in the Middle East and backing Hillary Clinton are two aspects of the same agenda, given by media owners and top managers to their talking hairdos, like Matthews, on all channels to push on the American people. Maybe Matthews has has enough of this poison but others in his line of work still fear for their jobs.

It's bad news for America but they don't care.

[CakeGrrl]

10. I don't understand why she's allowed to get away with a dishonest argument

Anyone who can read and who has access to the story of these primaries understands why those votes are not in her column, no matter how much she and her sorry, spinning crew click their heels and want them to be.

The MSM has a vested monetary/ratings interest to see this thing drag out.

Howard Dean could explain very clearly that she's pretty much lying, so I'm not sure what the long-range plan is turning out to be.

One thing the Democratic party needs to be aware of is that this lie is not helping to heal a rift. Hillary keeps planting the notion that she is ahead in the vote, like a Rove-style misinformation campaign. Keep repeating the lie often enough...

What it's going to do is get her most fervent supporters whipped up in a frenzy that she has somehow had this nomination 'stolen' from her if they assume she's telling them the truth but somehow loses the nomination. I don't understand why she's allowed to misinform her supporters.

[godai]

11. The SDs know the facts. They can't be impressed by her charade.

The SDs have to be shaking their heads in amazement as to what the Clintons will say and do to try to salvage the nomination, against all odds. It buys the Clintons time as they pray for an Obama scandal.

[L0oniX]

12. It's kinda like a senior citizen with dementia walking down the street just taking away...

with no one there to listen and if there were people there they would just ignore the babbling. No one would approach them and tell them they are not making any sense.

[Bensthename]

13. Hillary knows it is a lie but uses it to get money from her groupies to pay her debt...

Supers know better and are moving toward him..

[GreenTea]

14. Popular votes don't mean shit in the general election-Electoral votes do-As proven Gore vs. Bush

in 2000, when Gore won over 600k more popular votes than Bush and "lost" by only a few electoral votes for the presidency, because Florida's electoral votes were stolen and given to Bush by the US Supreme Court!

The Electoral College should be abolished forever, the republicans came up with it and only they have benefited by it.....Let's get rid of it once and for all!!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

38. There were no Republicans when the EC was created.

Nor when the 12th Amendment passed.

[sniffa]

16. Probably pity

Like that insane guy in the train station, hooting and hollering about the end of the world. Do you stop him, or do you just walk past and get on your car?

[rock]

17. More people have voted for Hillary than for Obama n/t

[Indenturedebtor]

20. Not in elections and caucuses they haven't

Furthermore Michigan was not an election. You can't have an election when you're the only person on the ballot. Does that not make sense.

"OoOoooooo look I beat myself at tic tac toe. what a genius I am." :eyes:

This whole line of reasoning is rock headed.

[rock]

21. "rock headed"

Thanks, I'll take that as a complement. I stand by the statement as written ("uncommitted" is not a vote for Obama).

[Indenturedebtor]

28. Stand by it with an argument please

How can you justify counting an election with one candidate on teh ballot?

[rock]

34. I wasn't on the ballot

How many votes do I get?

[Indenturedebtor]

36. None.

Now I was the ONLY person on the ballot. How many votes do I get? :eyes:

[hfojvt]

29. it's compliment

complements are things that go together like truth and logic or honesty and character.

According to RealClearPolitics

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

she is only ahead in votes if you count Michigan, where Obama's name was not on the ballot and if you don't count Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington. Something like 150,000 people caucused in Iowa where 70% of them voted for "not Hillary" and something like 200,000 in Washington where Obama won 66-33%. So there's 66,000 Washington Democrats that apparently neither you nor Hillary think should count, along with Maine voters, Iowa voters and Nevada voters.

[rock]

35. Well in my case it's both

It goes with me well.

[southern_belle]

22. I've been asking myself the same thing

for a while! The pundits do seem to be laughing at her, though. They should be reporting the FACTS! :shrug:

[liberaldem4ever]

23. K&R

:kick:

[akbacchus_BC]

24. Because the media seems to be selecting the candidates who would

lose against the republicans. But this time the media is wrong, Senator Obama is winning this Presidency, hands down, so the media is spewing BS once again!

[PBS Poll-435]

26. I don't know why she would say that you have more votes.

It doesn't help her AT ALL!

:rofl:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

27. because the media knows it's a fact

[Alexander]

31. The same media that you claim is sexist?

:rofl:

[Bensthename]

33. Are you saying the media is a bunch of dumbasses?

[Lerrad]

37. Oh Gee... here's how she claims it . . . .

She actually has him by 139,427, if you count it with Florida and Michigan, but exclude caucuses. Any other way you look at it Obama has her beat.

This is why I dislike Hillary sooo.... much, she likes to stretch and twist the truth.

TOTAL OBAMA HILLARY
TOTAL 12,891,604 12,217,745 (w/o FL & MI - w/caucuses and territories)
TOTAL 13,460,645 13,403,104 (w/ FL&MI, w/caucuses)

TOTAL 12,891,604 11,889,594 (w/o MI - w/caucuses and territories)
TOTAL 12,535,451 11,730,409 (w/o MI - excludes caucuses)

TOTAL 12,535,451 12,058,560 (w/o FL & MI - excludes caucuses)
TOTAL 13,104,492 >13,243,919< (w/ FL & MI - excludes caucuses)

Florida 569,041 857,208
Michigan XXX,XXX 328,151