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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:24 PM
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report: Patti Solis Doyl, former Clinton campaign manager, Considering Job with Obama
Edited on Mon May-19-08 01:26 PM by ErinBerin84
( I used the headline that was used on the Huffington Post for this story, because the politico article headline was not as specific..just "former Clintonite mulls over Obama job" or something)I'm all for party unity, but I hope she isn't given too many, um, managerial responsibilities.


"Hillary Clinton’s former campaign manager and confidante, Patti Solis Doyle, and Senator Barack Obama’s top advisor have informally discussed the former Clintonite’s going to work for the Obama campaign in the general election.

Solis Doyle’s possible hiring is a major breach not just in Clinton’s campaign but in the political universe known as “Hillaryland,” a term Solis Doyle reportedly coined after joining the Clintons in 1991 as Mrs. Clinton’s personal scheduler. She was forced out of Senator Clinton’s campaign in February amid internal criticism about her spending practices and preparation for upcoming contests.

“I’ve talked to Patti throughout, I know that she wants to be helpful in a general election campaign, and we appreciate that,” Obama’s chief strategist, David Axelrod told Politico, declining directly to answer the question of whether he and Solis Doyle had discussed her working for the campaign.

Other Democrats familiar with their conversations said there had been informal discussions of Solis Doyle going to work for Obama after the primary formally draws to a close.

“If Barack Obama’s the nominee, I’ll do everything I can to get him elected,” Solis Doyle told Politico.

Solis Doyle, a Chicago native whose brother is an alderman there, has known Axelrod even longer than she’s known the Clintons. Both said they’d talked frequently through the course of the campaign. Solis Doyle said there had been “no real conversations” about a job, but didn’t deny the subject had been broached.

Campaigns often draw from one another’s staff after a primary ends, a move driven both by the greater demands of a general election and by the desire to unite the party.

“I expect a lot of people from the losing campaign to go to the winning campaign, and I think that’s a good idea — it’s part of the process of healing,” said Bob Shrum, who was a key advisor to Senator John Kerry in 2004. “The way the Obama campaign runs, I think people will be integrated fairly easily.”

What’s notable about the suggestion that Solis Doyle could join Obama’s campaign is how early it comes. Clinton declared Monday that the campaign is “nowhere near over” and her loyal staff and supporters continue to reject the widespread assumption that her campaign has no chance of winning. That Solis Doyle is considering a job suggests otherwise.

There has, of course, been extensive speculation about which Clinton aides might make their way to Obama’s camp. Like Solis Doyle, top advisor Howard Wolfson is close to Axelrod, though there’s no indication that he’d consider a job.





"I intend to be working in the general election for Senator Clinton," said Wolfson. "I find any other speculation offensive."

Obama’s campaign has also advertised for jobs in its communications office, and other Democratic operatives said he might look to hire some of Clinton’s field staffers for the general election campaign, and to pick up fundraising staffers whose networks of wealthy donors could augment Obama’s formidable money machine.

Solis Doyle, for her part, would be unlikely to join the campaign in the kind of managerial role she filled for Clinton. She was forced out amid criticisms of the campaign’s management, and criticized for having been chosen more for loyalty than for managerial experience. And Obama’s campaign is notable for its relatively simple organizational chart, with Axelrod and campaign manager David Plouffe clearly at the reins.

Solis Doyle, however, could also bring long relationships with many Latino lawmakers and officials, a valuable commodity since Hispanics will be a crucial constituency in the general election.

“Obviously when this thing is done we’re going to want to bring talented people from all over the party into the fold here,” said Axelrod. “We’re not there yet.”


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10450.html
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:25 PM
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1. next Mark Penn will show up on Obama's door step
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:44 PM
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27. no. god no. no.
.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:11 PM
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48. Obama shouldn't use ANY of Hillary's staff. They cannot be trusted, IMO....
...and obviouly support Hillary's style of Bush/Rove politics, making her unsuitable as staff for Obama.

Out of all ofthe volunteers who have given their all to the campaign, there must be a few who are deserving of campaign jobs.

After all the Clinton campaign hae done against OBama and his supporters, I sure don't want them having access to Obama's strategies and organizing his campaign.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:45 PM
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32. and then Bill, and then Chelsea
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:25 PM
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2. I sure hope so!
Steer that ship into an iceberg!

:rofl:
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:45 PM
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29. you want him to *lose* the general?
guess you'll be gone from here in a week or two then...
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:01 PM
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43. Thanks for missing the point entirely!
GDP was MADE for you!
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:21 PM
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52. I think you missed the point entirely
Doyle could possibly work for Obama during the General Election and this is made clear in the article. Then you hoped that she would steer his campaign ship into an iceberg. That means you want him to fail in the GE. You're not a true Democrat if you want Obama to fail against McCain. Shame on you.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:33 PM
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54. If, by some remote chance, Obama is the nominee,
Then I will work my ass off for our ticket.

There is 2 weeks for Patti to work her magic on the 'O' team.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:55 PM
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55. "by some remote chance"
:rofl:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:08 PM
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57. :-) She is a Fighta!
:P
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:44 PM
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58. If, by some remote chance, the sun comes up tomorrow...
I know, it's a long shot.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:15 PM
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59. Yeah, but is the Sun "Fighting For You?"
Or is it part of the establishment?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:48 PM
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61. It's just there.
Some things and facts just are, and no amount of talk to the contrary will change them.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:54 PM
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38. For one of the few time you said something right....he would steer
his ship into an iceberg...You as an hillary supporter should blame him for her loss...
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:00 PM
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42. Patti is a she. And yes, she did Hillary "dirty."
:rofl:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:26 PM
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3. What a traitor!!! I'm gassing up the bus.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:26 PM
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4. No. I heard that she was terrible.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:26 PM
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5. Oh, DAYum!
:wow:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:26 PM
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6. Not sure about this.
Patti does have good political instincts, despite how she has been ridiculed in the media, and she is a tough worker.

But she is definitely a Clinton loyalist and I don't know that she'd be a good fit for Team Obama.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:26 PM
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7. NO, NO, NO, NO,
NO, NO, NO, NO, (etc.)...
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:27 PM
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8. No thanks!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:27 PM
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9. they won't give her a job. she's poison.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:28 PM
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10. NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo! Stay away Obama!!!
No offense...but, um...no.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:28 PM
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11. Don't give her anything important.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:29 PM
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12. lol. everyone's reaction is pretty much the same as mine.
Edited on Mon May-19-08 01:33 PM by ErinBerin84
In a word...yikes! Again, she definitely shouldn't be in charge, if they find a role for her. I wonder how much loyalty there still is for her from the Clinton campaign, I thought of The Atlantic article from the other day when several of (ok, anonymous)the Clinton campaign staffers seemed to place the blame on the campaign's failings on her entirely.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:29 PM
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13. She'd be an asset
She was succesful before the Clinton Campaign. She wouldn't be running the show and I'm sure she could use her experiences from it to help Obama in the GE.

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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:38 PM
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20. She might be an asset in other places, probably not in the GE though...
If Obama wants her in his white house or as an appointee, I have no problem. Just not as a strategist or campaign manager type person.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:40 PM
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23. She might be well
working on Hispanic outreach like the article suggest. Hillary has done well in some areas.

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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:58 PM
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40. I kinda agree with you...I think she could do some good....
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:47 PM
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34. Thank you, Jake. It is sad to see Patti Solis's reputation tarnished as it has been.
She was a force in Daley's city hall machine and she is a bulldog.

She is more than competent and these Mark Penn/Harold Ickes type jealous LOSERS in Clinton's campaign are seeking to blame her for things that were really not her fault.

She managed Hillary's very successful first run for the Senate.

She was well-respected in Chicago politics.

I don't know that she would be a good fit for Team Obama, but the idea does merit consideration.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:49 PM
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35. The list who should not be allowed in
are Wolfson
Penn
Terry Mac
Ickes
Garin

After that I'm ok.

Maggie Williams is borderline.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:52 PM
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36. Agree w/ the exception of Maggie.
She is a "no" in my book.

I am very pissed at the way the "big boys" threw Patti under the bus. And believe me, a lot of others feel the same way. Hillary, once again, showed POOR JUDGMENT, in believing the people who were the real culprits in sinking her campaign.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:54 PM
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39. I agree
I almost threw up in my mouth a little at the article examining whether Howard Wolfson would join the Obama campaign in the general election.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:04 PM
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45. I actually would like Terry Mac...lol
He can get you to believe anything. I've always found that annoying, and I'm sure the GOP would too.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:08 PM
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46. Send him to Alaska
He can be the spokesman up there.

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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:12 PM
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49. No list of Klinton Kampaign Kops is complete without
Lanny "You Don't Want To Hear From Me" Davis

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:15 PM
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50. He doesn't actually work for the campaign
He's just on TV shilling the nonsense.

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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:23 PM
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53. You are correct
In fact, given his disastrous TV appearances, maybe he's already working for the Obama campaign...
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:30 PM
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14. She can keep campaign workers up to date on the soaps while they are volunteering
OK, that's a little mean of me. But every report I've read about the Clinton Campaign suggested that she was a rubber-stamp manager who took it easy.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:30 PM
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15. She might be useful in bringing some of the strident Hillary supporters back to reality
And convincing the stubborn ones to back Obama in November.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:35 PM
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19. She's already dead to them.
As soon as this story broke, Hillary voters broke out their Patti Solis Doyle dartboards and toilet paper.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:32 PM
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16. Holy Jaysus. Please no no no
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:32 PM
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17. She's an awful manager/campaigner. She hurt Hillary significantly.
Camp Obama folks: Here's some advice. Don't take her. She needs to find another profession: politics is not her forte.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:35 PM
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18. She won't be a campaign manager
Whatever she does if she is hired, that won't be it. Perhaps some kind of Hispanic outreach job.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:41 PM
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Exactly...and she would help a lot on that level
It would be a very strong message that Obama wants to build the broadest outreach effort possible or the General.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:41 PM
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25. Sometimes
People get promoted over their competence level. It doesn't mean they don't do a good job at a position or two below that level.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:39 PM
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21. No chance we can convince her to help McCain?
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:39 PM
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22. Ha!
They might hire her to make the coffee, and she'd probably mess that up too.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:40 PM
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24. Um...hell no.
Edwards' people are more useful. ANY Clintonite, especially one from Hillaryland, is just asking for trouble. Patti. Solis. Doyle.? Are you f'cking kidding me? Axelrod is not serious.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:43 PM
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26. Like it or not
Hillary people will be on the campaign. Some of her people are very good, otherwise we wouldn't be where we are today.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:44 PM
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28. Yes David, bring the talented
and leave Patti and Mark and Terry and Wolfson to write their campaign memoirs.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:45 PM
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30. If Obama's campaign wants to hire her, I have no problem with that.
They really do seem to know what they're doing, so my confidence in them won't wane because of this.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:45 PM
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31. Nuh-uh, we're doing just fine. Thanks, anyway!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:45 PM
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33. As long as she has no financial responsibility
it would be okay.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:53 PM
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37. No no no keep her and all of them as far away as possible
Obama hasn't made a mistake yet....don't start now.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:59 PM
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41. Make her VP I say
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:02 PM
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44. Tellin' all uh y'all it's a sabotage...
:evilgrin:

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:10 PM
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47. ASKING for work and getting it are 2 different things
Axelrod knows his candidate isn't so far out ahead of McCain that he can afford at this point to hire incompetent people.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:16 PM
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51. Holy shit....
...so....why am I thinking "Trojan Horse?"
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:07 PM
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56. Not in a managerial role?
Then fine by me. But I do agree that the decent thing to do is wait.

This is motivated by anger on her part right now. She took the fall for a lot of problems that were really Penn's fault. There's no doubt in my mind that he was a big part of forcing her out.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:16 PM
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60. Is there room under the bus for her?
n/t
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