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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 11:26 AM Original message |
What Bothers Me About an Obama Presidency - Just One Example |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. Standard six-degrees-of-separation Dem-bashing. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
51. I like how it starts with Robert Rubin |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. You Heard Correctly |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #51 |
93. So the small farmer goes bankrupt? |
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Labors of Hercules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. "I fear..." |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
2. This is a new one. We win the Whitehouse and hand wringing about shadows? |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
3. What some fail to accept. ---No Candidate will get anywhere |
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enid602 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Obama |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. And They Can't Get Anywhere |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Yup... we saw it start long ago... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Well, Good Luck |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I'd rather have hope than go with the DLC candidate. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. They Both Are, IMO |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. But... Obama has gone so far as to demand the DLC |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Crisco, relax a little. It's hard to do, but |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. They'll be in Washington and they won't give a damn. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I think that the possibility of a sell out is a real one. But, but, but |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. The DLC is *guaranteed* to sell us out. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Obama is basically DLC without the label. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I share that hope... |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-19-08 07:09 AM Response to Reply #43 |
104. Then he and his wife should get out of the CFR |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
97. Ya they destroy what we build and ship it over seas. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
78. You mean like how Bill Clinton sold us out with NAFTA and welfare "reform"? |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Why do people ignore the NAFTA elephant in the room? |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #29 |
87. As a African American you should worry about your rights, |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. He's not going to break my heart. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. Exactly my thought, Straight Shooter. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. "... the real changes are going to come from the legislature anyway" |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #50 |
94. We'd need a huge majority in the Congress for that to happen. |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. actually, with Hillary, you know exactly what you are getting, with Obama, all you have is hope.. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Exactly. |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. thanks :-) |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
98. And she would be the first woman President (globalist) |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Hope in one hand, shit on the Clinton legacy |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. The 90's were pretty good... but we got stabbed in the back. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
64. The 90s were a hjiccup in the long term trend toward turning everyone |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
79. Exactly! |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
58. ah, very good |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I'm so up for it! |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. don't get riled |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Yes! |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #61 |
73. yes, I understand |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
95. Fan mail from some flounder... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
62. Staying active and involved is what Obama has asked his supporters to do |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Damn straight... that's ALWAYS the way it works. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. absolutely |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #68 |
75. I hardly think that any Kucinich or Edwards supporter is that delusional |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #75 |
88. It's hard to even make people open their eyes to the |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. I think Wall Street was quite reassured by JE's Hedge Fund stint |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
36. Not this election. |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
99. Corporations can be their own enemy that's why we have |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
6. Then vote for McCain--the REAL anti-corporate populist in the race. A man of the people, is he! |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
7. Your concern is duly noted. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. In Truth? |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. That doesn't answer the question I asked. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Not Playing |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. In other words, the answer is yes, but you don't want to admit it. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I See What You Want |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. But but but but ... HILLARY |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
100. Obama is part of those globalist organizations too. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
17. Well you will feel much better with McCain |
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avenger64 (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
23. Great stuff - |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
24. damn. i hate it when presidential candidates aren't 100% exactly my ideal of perfection. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Not 99%, more like 20 to 40%, if that... |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. if you want a hugo chavez, you're dreaming |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Exactly. We need to focus on what we can do NOW... |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
101. After the election is the shocker. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
25. your faux outrage and concern have been duly noted |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
26. Which bothers you more -- McCain or Obama? You only get to choose one |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. That's the unfortunate reality |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. Real Liberals / Progressives don't get to that spot... not in this M$M controlled environment. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
28. I'm hopeful that he represents an opportunity for us to push forward... |
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Goodnevil (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
32. You assume a great deal more unity of thought |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Obama will be a one term President. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
82. You're just wishing that at best |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. Your #1 Concern |
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Goodnevil (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Not sure who woke them up |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #48 |
92. That panel of base closure people were scary to me. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
47. You're going to have to provide a better link. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Huh? |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
52. if by some miracle O should win, a lot of dems are going to be very disappointed. |
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Goodnevil (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. This is what I get for clearing my ignore list |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. If there's one thing this primary has proven... |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
57. Yeah, just look at the funding HRC and Obama have gotten! |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Actually |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Loretta Lynn was right! |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 07:51 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Hahaha! |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. Now that was an obvious desperate ploy, |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. It's An Accurate Comparison |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. No, it's not. Did you even read my post? |
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kid a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
63. I know batboy...I played batboy...batboy voted Obama...you, sir, are no batboy. nt |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
69. You're worried about spin linking Obama to Hillary supporter and former Clinton official Bob Rubin? |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
70. Have fun while you can, sweetie. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
71. Then go vote mccain, scaredy cat |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. uncalled for and counter-productive |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #74 |
102. Wrong. It is the HRC boosters who post divisive crap like this pile of shit OP that are |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
80. Actually the evidence is |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Bush Signed NAFTA |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #83 |
89. You can't get that CSPAN tape of X-President Bush celebrating 10 years |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #80 |
91. X-President Bush did blame Clinton for eight years of delay |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #80 |
103. Clinton and Bill Daley |
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Rene (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
85. 1st thing bho would do is open the door to the nuclear industry...2nd will try to allow drilling |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Which candidate wants that? |
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Higher Standard (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. Links? |
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