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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 01:08 PM
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Swift-Boat Vets fact check
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 01:11 PM
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1. and here's something else about that...
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 01:14 PM
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2. does anyone know if Kerry or someone like moveon.org has a reply ad ......
waiting or in development for this? Apparently there was enough information available that they would have known it was coming.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 01:24 PM
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4. You know...
Edited on Sat Aug-07-04 01:32 PM by imax2268
I don't think that Kerry should have an ad to reply to this BS...I think that what's going on with all the blogs and online news outlets...the ball is rolling on these guys...one has already recanted his statement...
I think it's best that these bunch of bastards implode on themselves...it's already happening...and it's going to get worse for them soon enough...
Just keep emailing major news outlets and the like...sooner or later the actual truth will come out...
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 01:25 PM
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5. I agree, Kerry has better things to do, like talk about the future nt
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 01:34 PM
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6. I can't exactly agree. I somehow don't think most people in swing states
Edited on Sat Aug-07-04 01:35 PM by meti57b
are reading pro-Kerry (or any) blogs. Al Gore didn't reply to the smear campaigns in 2000 and it wasn't helpful.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 01:36 PM
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7. that's why
it's important to spread this around...send all the info to local and other papers out there...sooner or later it will be picked up and people will see the truth about these frauds...
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fdr_hst_fan Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:39 PM
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15. Yes-this is the "moral highroad"
that Dukakis tried to take, and it didn't work then, so why waste time on it now?
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 01:46 PM
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8. I don't think Kerry should use any of the 75 million
he has to spend between now and the election on this bullcrap. The swiftvets are a 527 organization so I think Moveon or another 527 can take care of them nicely.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 10:39 AM
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20. it's already too late
the damage has been largely done

they've done what they wanted to do:

get MASSIVE, largely uncritical coverag of this HUGE lie

the media, corrupt SCUMSUCKING handmaidens that they are, have made it WORSE, by taking the Swiftboaters' SIDE, forcing Kerry surrogates to PROVE Kerry wasn't LYING, etc., rather than putting the onus on the LIARS themselves

notice how much the coverage has been slanted that way?

poor, unsuspecting public has already had those seeds of doubt planted, and it's MUCH MUCH harder to remove implanted memes, once they're neuronal connections have been established and reinforced
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lottie244 Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 01:23 PM
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3. They really hate Kerry because he told the truth about the Viet Nam war
Most hawks want to deny the truth. But Abu Gharib should make everyone understand why Kerry spoke out against the was after fighting in it.
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 02:44 PM
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9. This is terrific.
I'm printing the article and taking it to a "Women for Kerry" meeting Monday night.

Thanks, Will.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 02:58 PM
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10. We need to make this into an email
and send it out to everyone we know. The GOP has been sending out dozens of political spam (as we all know because they always end up on DU for debunking) and now it's time to fight fire with fire.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:55 PM
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11. Kick
:kick:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:22 PM
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12. E-mail this link to friends & relatives today!!!
n/t
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shawmut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:47 PM
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13. Excellent
Edited on Sat Aug-07-04 07:59 PM by slim
Very well done by the Kerry people. :thumbsup:

Now it's our job to keep spreading the truth with these facts.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:55 PM
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14. A few Freepers got smacked about this issue today in Madison
I and a few pals were doing the Farmers Market grassroots thing and I was prepared with some lit to give to those that needed to either be shown the truth or wanted to fend off Chimp fans willing to believe this crap.

The PDF is here:
http://www.kerrysupport.com/media/Swiftboaters.pdf

Anyway, there were a few Freepers who wanted to diss Kerry on this issue and were severely smacked down with the truth on the issue about these lying motherfuckers.

It was sweet. A few vets also stopped by and thought what the Swift Boat Vets For "Truth" were despicable and we agreed this is going to backfire big time on the Chimpsters.

John Nichols (Nation) stopped by and discussed the issue as well. Look for a column from him on this in the near future.

We need to keep smacking the Chimpsters down. We must be ruthless and solidly on target.
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fdr_hst_fan Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:43 PM
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16. Yes, we DO need to start
smacking down the Chimpster and his "ditto-heads", and HARD! None of this "playing fair" crap-they don't, why should we? If we don't get down and dirty with them, then we look weak, and they'll use THAT, too!

:nopity: :mad:
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 10:43 AM
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21. good for YOU!
this is an effective way to get the truth out: personal level.

those witnessing these little morality plays will spread the word, just be relating an entertaining incident they saw that day

and.......John Nichols is a real journalist

too bad not many people know who he is
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 03:42 AM
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17. Excellent ..
MMFA investigates: Who is Jerome Corsi, co-author of Swift Boat Vets attack book?
While much has been written about the identity and history of John E. O'Neill -- one of the authors of the forthcoming Regnery book Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry (whose links in the GOP go back to his days as "protégé of Nixon-era dirty trickster Charles Colson") -- little has been said about his co-author, Jerome R. Corsi, PhD.

• Corsi on Islam: "a worthless, dangerous Satanic religion"

• Corsi on Catholicism: "Boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press"

• Corsi on Muslims: "RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters -- it all goes together"

• Corsi on "John F*ing Commie Kerry": "After he married TerRAHsa, didn't John Kerry begin practicing Judiasm? He also has paternal grandparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry?"
.... more tripe ....
http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010

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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 07:03 AM
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18. Great factcheck...but the mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye...
...the more light that's shined upon it, the smaller it becomes.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 09:24 AM
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19. The Swift Boat vets are for Bush !
That's all I need to know. They are traitors.
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