Now that the primary is over, could Obama supporters PLEASE

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

STFU about Clinton and her tactics. Please. It doesn't matter. Obama, the far superior candidate, won. It's over. No need to talk about Clinton's pathologies. No need to reveal all of her insecurities and underhandedness. Fine, yes, they all may be there. But, please, STFU. Take them in stride. Do what your man, Obama, did: dust off your shoulders, your knees, and carry on. Have some dignity, for the love of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

It's over. We won. Clinton ran a "spirited" campaign, but it's over. She lost. Why continue to dwell on her loss/Obama's victory? Why be offended by the defeated? Why respond to the person you just beat? Only one reason: to run their noses in it. That ain't cool. No need to respond to the vanquished. It's on to McCrazyassbombiran100yearsiniraqbushhuggerassface.

A shout-out to Clinton supporters: you did your candidate proud. Politics is a bloody sport, not for the weak, and you held your own. It just wasn't her time. Though I supported others--including Obama over Clinton--I would have voted for her and would have supported her firmly.

That is all.

Yes, a lot of this post was written with tongue firmly planted in cheek. But it was posted with all due respect.

[grasswire]

1. another "uniter"

just can't skip the snark.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

3. Perhaps my post just

jumped the snark?

[mkultra]

45. neither can you

[mudesi]

2. BECAUSE SHE IS HURTING OUR CHANCES IN NOVEMBER

Why can't people get this through their heads?

Every day she stays in this is another day for John McCain to raise money and win votes.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

6. No she's not.

Go and look at past democratic primaries. Many haven't ended until June 3.

Relax.

She's given him a taste of what's to come. If he can't stand up to a Clinton who has actually held back from CLASSIC Clinton tactics, there's no way he can go up against the repubs.

We owe the Clintons some thanks for throwing some tough elbows, making things bitter. It's nothing compared to what's coming.

[OhioBlue]

17. yes she is.

down ticket candidates are having hard times raising $$ b/c of the extended Primary.

State parties have held their GE strategies - they can't declare a winner yet.

Her campaign continues to frame Obama in a negative light and continues to turn the people of FL and MI against him b/c their own State leaders broke DNC rules.

[Yael]

22. When -- in 1992?

Welcome to the information age. The one populated with things like the You Tubes and the Google.

I have watched in amazement (as I am sure we all have) as to the response time of the Obama campaign to negative press.

Sadly, while HRC is throwing the kitchen sink -- it IS hurting us.

I appreciate that your OP was in unity, and even moreso, I appreciate her remarks today defending our nominee from the shit * flung while at the Knesset today -- but please, don't downplay the damage that has been done.

Side note... I visited my (R), April 22nd Huckabee-voting mother tonight. Played for her the Edwards/Colbert 'jetski' EdWords video. She was enthralled by him. Intrigued as she was surprised that this former (R) was so whole heartedly supporting him -- her response was "he is awesome". She followed that with a comment about how she could "understand" me moving to Obama if it wasn't for his radical, white-hating wife. A woman who I adore (and yes, I have YT clips of Michelle that will wow her to send to her. Timing is everything).

Point being is that the damage coming from the fucking LEFT is doing more damage than the points from the right.

People like my Mom will write in Christ himself before voting for a Dem (although I had her close on JRE).

How much damage is this onslaught doing to swing voters?

(Again noting that the attacks seem to have subsided...)

[Two Americas]

27. no evidence for that

McCain would be raising money and winning votes regardless of what Clinton does.

Having two candidates out there talking about basically the same Democratic party policies, and keeping the party in the news is all good. Having two candidates out there getting people involved and to the polls is good. Giving everyone a chance to participate in the primaries around the country is good.

[mudesi]

30. The evidence is that of opportunity cost

It's a fundamental fact that Obama is using money and time that would otherwise be focused on McCain in order to keep running against Hillary.

[Two Americas]

31. just not true

The money is being spent on promoting the Obama campaign. How would you "focus time and money on McCain?" Primary campaigning may be more effective at reaching new people and motivating the base, not less.

[slinkerwink]

43. she's not trashing Obama anymore. She knows this is over, and she's going out on her own terms

on the last day of the last primary.

[KeithO]

47. Barry Hussein, Rev. Wright, and Bill Ayers

those guys in the subject line are hurting your chances

[mikelgb]

4. It's not over until the....

if I were an Obama supporter I would not lay down my arms just yet. The truth is he still dosn't have enough Delegates to win, and she will do anything.

en garde.

[Two Americas]

19. lay down arms?

How does fighting with Clinton supporters here help Obama get the nomination, let alone help the party in the general?

"En garde?"

[DS1]

5. Kindly inform your candidate that it's over

Because she's still trucking along, wasting precious time against McCain.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

8. Clinton is not my candidate if that's the implication of your post.

Go back and read the OP. I think it's pretty clear.

[Two Americas]

36. ridiculous

Do you really think Clinton would quit if DU Clinton supporters tell her too? And how is telling Clinton supporters to do that constructive?

It seems to me that money and time are just as well spent - maybe better - bringing in new voters state by state, building participation and enthusiasm and keeping Democrats in the news then it would be reacting to McCain's attacks. Why don't we think of ourselves as in the power position, and as proactive for a change rather than always reactive?

I would rather see an extended primary then to get into the mud wrestling match with McCain earlier. As Grant said during the battle of the wilderness to a subordinate who was worried about what General Lee might do - "Bobby Lee! Bobby Lee! I am heartily tired of hearing about what Bobbie Lee is going to do! Go back to your unit and think about what YOU are going to do for once."

[DS1]

37. No, of course I don't. That was the point, Hillary will never quit until

she's thoroughly defeated. It's one thing to hope and spout of Civil War anecdotes, it's another to accept defeat and move on.

[Webster Green]

7. This is a site for political discussion..

Why the hell should we "STFU about Clinton and her tactics"? :silly:

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

9. Why would you continue?

It just builds resentment towards Obama from Clinton supporters. It keeps the wound festering. I'm not justifying what she does. I'm just saying that Obama supporters ought to ignore it now that it's over.

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. We have people here defending Bush and Pat Buchanan

and then go on to slam the nominee


I'm not gonna let that go

[Webster Green]

13. Why would Hillary continue?

Tuff shit if her supporters are in denial. Let 'em vote for McSame if they are so thin-skinned that they'll throw a tantrum over anonymous Internets postings, and refuse to vote for anybody but the Clintons. :rofl:

[tridim]

10. It seems like the media is starting to ignore her.

But if she says something stupid I won't remain silent.

[SwampG8r]

12. when they stop attacking

ill stop defending
not one nanosecond before

[hayu_lol]

14. Couple of points to ponder...

With my primary ballot sitting on my kitchen table, this primary is not over.

We do not as yet have a nominee.

Michigan, Florida results are still up in the air and Texas final results from their peculiar circus will not be known until June 7th--or quite possibly--a bit later.

Just hold on to your faith, hope, change ponies a bit longer.

[BlooInBloo]

15. 2nded

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

16. When you stop defending, perhaps, just perhaps, they'll stop attacking.

And not a nano-second before.

There's nothing worse than being ignored . . . just ask John Edwards.

[SwampG8r]

18. history doesnt bear out your theory

people who stop defending while they are still being attacked usually lose the battle
if they dont attack i wont be able to defend
so the ball is always in the court of the attacker
when she runs back home to wherever she is from this week and tells her followers to back obama then and only then will i stop defending

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

25. So when the Patriots talked shit to the Giants AFTER the SB

the Patriots actually won? The Giants proved their point how?

It ends up frustrating the victor and gives solace to the loser. And why? Why frustrate oneself? I can see your argument if we were on a non-partisan board. There may be a reason for continuing a response to various attacks with regards to the GE. But WE'RE AT DU!!!

People only respond for egotistical reasons. It's a real sign of weakness. Case in point: how often has Obama responded to attacks after his NC victory? Oh, I'm sorry, how many times?

So, again, why respond? It's over.

[Cha]

48. History and it's just freakin' good

common sense no matter how many pleas to stop writing the truth about hilary.

They should talk to hilary if they want it to just all stop and go away.

[totodeinhere]

20. If Hillary's supporters on this forum stop trashing Obama then we can talk.

And BTW, why did you only admonish Obama supporters? Hillary's supporters also trash Obama and his tactics. Why didn't you ask them to stop too?

[shrub chipper]

23. It might be because

Obama won.

She lost.

Let's move on to November

[totodeinhere]

28. So you're saying that it's OK to be a sore loser?

I don't think so. The winners should have an obligation to be magnanimous in their victory and they should not gloat. We can probably all agree on that. But the losers also have an obligation to accept defeat and rally around our nominee so that we can win in November. Both sides have obligations but you only seem to be picking on one side.

[shrub chipper]

38. read my post again

I was agreeing with you.

I said O won, HRC lost, move on and focus on November. That's what this thread's about.

[slinkerwink]

44. I'm an Obama supporter. It's up to us to be magnamious.

[JVS]

21. Did she quit?

[billyoc]

24. ithinkiknowwhyyourliverhurts

She's campaigning against the Democratic Nominee, are you seriously saying she should be given a pass?!

:rofl:

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

29. Seriously, bro.

Why respond?

Perhaps you have something to prove. Obama doesn't. He won.

How many times has her responded to her since he won NC?

Let it go, brah, let it go.

[tbyg52]

26. When *she* finally says it's over, I'll be happy to. nt

[patrice]

32. She and her supporters need to talk to us straight about the IWR.

Stop that crap about being lied to; a woman of HC's calculating intelligence (a good! thing in politics) would have factored the possibilities of lies into her decision.

I WANT peace with her and her people. Even though I have a problem with the fact that she does not recognize how un-electable she is to 10s of millions of people and she actually discounts the HC hating phenomenon, I'm one who believes that the heart of the opposition isn't going to just evaporate for my convenience, so I'm willing to live with HC and her supporters and even work with them. But there's one thing I and millions and millions like me NEED first and we need it because it is an ir-reconcilable difference. Ir-reconcilable NOT because we WANT it to be ir-reconcilable, but ir-reconcilable because it IS ir-reconcilable.

Our tax dollars, and hence our lives, are being used to MURDER innocent people. Our own families are suffering and dying in the Iraq. They are being held hostage. They are WAR SLAVES. We are WAR SLAVES. Sold into this HELL that has killed nearly 5,000 Americans and several 10s of thousands of Iraqis and created 5,000,000 Iraqi Orphans, insuring generations and generations of Terrorists without end. Our honor and reputation all over the World are damaged, quite possibly beyond repair. We are enslaving our own children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren. America will NEVER be the same - all for the political ambitions of our "leaders".

WE WERE BETRAYED. I will NEVER FORGET it. I might be able to forgive and co-exist, but I can't do that until there is some honesty about why HC voted on the IWR as she did. Please do not insult me with the same old lies. If your request for a truce comes from an honest place, you will not dishonor what is driving many of us to FIGHT her until our last breaths. Whether she agrees with us or not, she needs to show some respect for our problems with what she did.

If she can't do that, then I and others are here and elsewhere to remind EVERYONE how this happened to Us.

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[malik flavors]

34. Yea, people need to stop being so immature around here. Get over it, and stop fighting about Hillary

[wileedog]

35. The very moment she shuts up. I will

Its nothing personal, strictly business

[Rene]

39. A typical obama 'supporter' that flatly turns me off to him.

Hillary's the better candidate. She gets my write-in. I'll never vote for obama....the empty suit....the pandering preacher man. I do NOT want that man preaching to me...I'll turn the TV everytime he's on....and ignore the next 4 years if he's selected. His sheeple can follow him right over the cliff of chaos and confusion. w said he was an outsider who was going to change D.C. we got hell on wheels for 7 years....now we'll have mass confusion with obama. People are crazy not to see that coming.

[MethuenProgressive]

40. Obama supporters unwise to attack Hillary Clinton

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5981402&mesg_id=5981402

[Beregond2]

41. Be happy too,

as soon as she stops tearing the party down with her ongoing magical mystery tour.

[unlawflcombatnt]

42. Because it's NOT over, and the Obamanistas are terrified of losing

That's why they continue with their vicious, slimy, dishonest tactics.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

46. New Forum Proposal: GD: Lecture Your Fellow DUers.

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