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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:27 PM
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Can Obama win? "Yes. Yes. Yes."
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: But the question is, do you think Senator Obama can do that? Can he win?

SENATOR CLINTON: Yes. Yes. Yes.

Now, I think that I can do a better job. (Laughter.) I mean, obviously, that's why I'm here. I think I am better able and better prepared in large measure because of what I've been through and the work that I've done and the results that I've produced for people and the coalition that I have put together in this campaign, that Charlie referred to earlier.

Obviously, I believe I would be the best president, or I would not still be here, standing on this stage, and I believe I'm the better and stronger candidate against Senator McCain, to go toe to toe with him on national security and on how we turn the economy around.

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Well there you have it. Obama will be the next president.

Hillary-Backer Ed Rendell Suggests Obama Ask Hillary To Be Veep

Sorry Ed.

Originally posted: May 14, 2008

Eight reasons why Obama should not choose Clinton as his running mate in `08

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Yet here are eight reasons it's a bad idea:

1. Choosing Clinton would belie Obama's message of change. Whether you admire her or not, you have to acknowledge that Clinton's an old-style, legacy Democrat. Obama's candidacy is premised on a break with the past.

2. Choosing Clinton would belie Obama's repudiation of the old way of doing politics. Clinton and her surrogates are tough campaigners who have gone hard after Obama (see below) trying to draw him into the fight. And on those occasions where he and his team have responded in kind, Team Clinton has smirkingly asked whatever happened to the politics of hope?

3. Bill Clinton. He's a brilliant man and an amazing politician, but he's shown an inability to stay on message and keep his foot out of his mouth as he campaigns for his wife. Obama already has Rev. Jeremiah Wright to worry about -- he doesn't need another loose cannon out there ready to fire.

4. She's polarizing. For all that she's shown how popular she can be with certain groups of primary voters, Hillary Clinton also remains a controversial and unpopular figure. Here are her "unfavorable" ratings among all voters in a set of recent national polls, with Obama's unfavorability ratings in parenthesis: 37 (30) ; 45 (37) 46 (38) 49 (40) 54 (39) 53 (37).

5. She'll be the star of anti-Obama commercials: "Its imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold," she said on March 6. "I believe that Ive done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and youll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy.

6. She's gone beyond the pale in attacking Obama: "I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. Sen. John McCain has a lifetime of experience that he'd bring to the White House. And Sen. Obama has a speech he gave in 2002," she said on March 4. Clinton delivered this insulting, dismissive, destructive critique several times, and it's a bell she can't unring.

7. She's toting unpacked baggage. Clinton likes to claim that she's been thoroughly vetted and withstood all the Republican attacks of the 1990s and now any bad news about her is simply old news. It's not so. Obama hasn't called her on this claim because he's trying to preserve the image that he's above the politics of scandal. And the Republican operatives are lying in the weeds, boosting Clinton's candidacy and licking their chops, waiting to pounce.

Not only are there all the "--gate" scandals from her husband's administration that were set aside rather than fully resolved in the public's mind (travel, file, cattle and so on), but the issue of the pardons Bill Clinton granted on his way out of the door and the mysterious funding sources from the Clinton Presidential Library are still out there.

8. Picking a real teammate is better than picking a political counterweight. Bill Clinton of Arkansas himself surprised the pundits in 1992 when he chose as his No. 2 another young moderate Democrat from from the mid-South -- Al Gore of Tennessee -- and the two ran a vigorous, consistent campaign. Obama would do better to pick someone of his generation who shares his general outlook and who can speak passionately and convincingly to voters about why they should support Obama.







Hillary's impossible math:

Current plus FL and MI (Obama get MI 55)

Obama 1883 + 122 = 2005

Hillary 1717 + 178 = 1895

Obama +110

There are 241 superdelegates and 189 pledged delegates left.

Let's say they split the super delegates 50/50: each get 120

Obama 2005 + 120 = 2125

Hillary 1895 + 120 = 2015

Needed for the nomination 2209

Obama 84

Hillary 194 (or all remaining pledged delegates plus 5)


Three more weeks to the inevitable.





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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:29 PM
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1. "She'll be the star of the anti-Obama commercials" -- BINGO!
If Obama needs a rationale for NOT selecting her, THERE YOU GO.

She made her own bed by attacking too fiercely and must understand
if he doesn't offer her the VP slot.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:13 PM
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5. Pushing that Obama is unelectable and angling for a VP slot is bizarre . n/t
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:29 PM
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2. Can Obama win? Will. Will. Will.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:52 PM
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3. Cartoon


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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:53 PM
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4. K & R
:thumbsup:
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:23 PM
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6. YES WE CAN !!!!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:21 PM
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10. You forgot the
periods.

YES. WE. CAN.


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:48 PM
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7. Kerry stands up for Obama against GOP lies
Link posted here



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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:50 PM
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8. One analyst (MSNBC): Choosing "the Clintons" to be VP would be like adopting The Menendez Brothers.
:spray: :evilgrin:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:38 PM
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9. Edwards: "The Democrats have made their choice. The primary is over,"
But most significantly, Edwards effectively said, "The Democrats have made their choice. The primary is over," precisely at a moment when the Hillary campaign is making the opposite case. You really couldn't imagine a moment more perfectly scripted for the Obama campaign, coming right after Obama's lopsided loss in West Virginia, than this.

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:30 PM
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11. A stupid question.
They just wanted to hear her say it.
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