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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:15 AM
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Breaking News: Clinton Loses First Pledged Delegate
(thanks to grantcart for catching this)

Source: Washington Post

Prince George's County Executive Jack B. Johnson, a Democratic convention delegate pledged to support Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, said yesterday that he thinks Sen. Barack Obama has "in a real sense" won the Democratic nomination and that he now plans to support Obama at the August convention.

Johnson, who endorsed Clinton nine days before Maryland's February primary, said he will urge Gov. Martin O'Malley and Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski, who co-chair Clinton's Maryland campaign, to bring all of her delegates to Obama's camp for the sake of party unity.

"I cannot in good conscience go to the convention and not support Barack," Johnson said in an interview. "She ran a great campaign, but she fell short of the line."

...

"The freedom to change your mind or change your vote does exist," Paulson said. "They're not like superdelegates, but they do have this flexibility."

Obama swamped Clinton in Maryland, capturing 61 percent of the vote statewide and 79 percent of the vote in Prince George's County. Given the results in Maryland and elsewhere, Johnson said, the Maryland party would be unenthusiastic about the November election if Obama were not the nominee.

A decision by O'Malley or Mikulski to release all of Maryland's Clinton delegates could be the start of a national wave to unify behind Obama, Johnson said.


Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/12/AR2008051202554.html?referrer=digg

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Senator Clinton had been losing superdelegates lately, and now she is beginning to lose pledged delegates as well. This should be a big news item today, alongside the West Virginia primary.

We have to acknowledge that Clinton supporters here on DU were right. Superdelegates can switch, and pledged delegates, although pledged, can also switch. I'm thinking they might wish they weren't right about this one, though.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:17 AM
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1. I posted already
but this is bad.

Really bad.

It gives Clionton an excuse to keep going all the way to the convention, and you know she will just to insure Obama loses.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:20 AM
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3. We just have to work harder it's the DLC vs the People
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:23 AM
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5. We must have been writing our OPs at the same time
:hi:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:25 AM
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6. No problem, let's see who gets the most posts in theirs
:hi:
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:33 AM
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So, then this pledged delegate WON'T be going to the Convention.
Pledge delegates who change to a diffrent candidate will sit home.
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:33 AM
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9. So, then this pledged delegate WON'T be going to the Convention.
Pledge delegates who change to a diffrent candidate will sit home.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:40 AM
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12. Actually, they will be going to Convention
They were elected to vote at Convention. If they can't go, however, an elected alternate will go in their place. Chances are the elected alternate would stick with Senator Clinton.
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:52 AM
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16. No, they are selected pre-primary.
Every candidate has their "pledge group" wherein voters attend a special meeting to select their pledge delegates. The wanta-be delegate needs to be voted upon by the group of like supporters of that candidate. Each candidate has such a group.; Biden, Edward, Clinton, Obama......etc...all pre-convention.

They can't switch per the rules but can be relpaced.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:42 AM
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17. 1st time seeing it for me ... so thanks to you both!
:hi:
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:19 AM
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2. I just can't see Clinton going on like this.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:20 AM
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4. could you see her teaming up with Richard mellon Scaife,playing racial politics ?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:27 AM
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7. That makes 4 switches this past week.
Edited on Tue May-13-08 05:27 AM by tekisui
Or a net of +8 for Obama in switches.
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Doug.Goodall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:30 AM
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8. The handwriting is on the wall: Hillary It Is Over!
I think I hear some lady singing in the distance.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:36 AM
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10. Hissyspit found the lady to which you refer :)
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Doug.Goodall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:39 AM
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11. That's good, but I thought the lady singing would have a somewhat more substantial body
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:42 AM
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13. Ah yes, gerth!


:D
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Doug.Goodall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:48 AM
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15. Got that Hillary? She's singing now!
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:46 AM
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18. ...
Edited on Tue May-13-08 06:51 AM by Doityourself
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:46 AM
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19. La La La La Laaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:26 AM
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21. Rob Rogers Toon
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:45 AM
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23. lol, she even has the Madonna cone breasts :)
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:45 AM
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14. LOL Hillary! There's no such thing as a pledged delegate after all!
:rofl:
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:16 AM
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20. Wow...talk about chickens coming home to roost...but I really would...
like to see the pledged delegates voting as they were pledged.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:43 AM
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22. Ditto ... that's why they're "pledged" n/t
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:59 AM
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24. I am turned off by O'Malley and Mikulski refusal
Edited on Tue May-13-08 09:00 AM by MissWaverly
to acknowledge that Obama carried Maryland, doesn't the vote and wishes of the Maryland people resonate with them. This is what
is wrong with the Democratic Party, I am a loyal democrat and I have donated to both of them, but I don't understand this. Why
have they grown tone deaf when listening to the people that they are supposed to serve.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:08 AM
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25. ..Johnson's call was rejected by some Clinton's other supporters in the state.


......Johnson's call was rejected by some Clinton's other supporters in the state. Melissa Schwartz, a spokeswoman for Mikulski, said the Maryland senator "remains 100 percent behind Senator Clinton."
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