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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 05:50 PM
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Researchers - HELP - re the $87 billion Kerry voted for before he voted
against it AND what did the Repubs vote against before they voted for the $87 billion? What was Chimpy threatening to veto and how could we frame that against him?

What exactly were the specifics of what Kerry voted for that * and the Repubs didn't want and how can we use that against them?

I'm not a lazy ass but I don't have time right now (3 small hungry, grumpy kids) and I'm not as experienced as some people here are at finding info. Some of you are regular Internet studs but I don't even know how to post a link to an article (I've been to embarrassed to ask).

I thought it was about not dumping the cost of this off on our children and grandchildren - seems responsible.

I thought it was also about keeping an eye on what this admin. was doing with the $, that has proven to be necessary because they have "misplaced" millions or billions of $ over in Iraq.

Kerry is getting beaten over the head with this and there must be a better way to answer the question.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 05:54 PM
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1. There have been a lot of threads on this recently and here are a few:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2131762

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2124244


And here is a good explaination from FACTCHECK:

http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docid=155

snip

Announcer: And what does Kerry say now?


Kerry: I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it



Kerry was referring to a measure he co-sponsored that would have provided the $87 billion while also temporarily reversing Bush's tax cuts for those making $400,000 a year or more. That measure was rejected  57-42.

snip
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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 05:59 PM
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3. Thank you. That's the kind of site I was looking for.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 05:55 PM
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2. drat I had a link, let me keep looking.. Ok think this is it
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 05:57 PM by AZDemDist6
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=155

here's one from a non partisan site
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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 06:12 PM
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4. Here is the * response to
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CarolynEC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 07:03 PM
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5. Wouldn't it be great if JK would put this to rest?
I mean, how many thousands of hours have been spent by JK supporters trying to refute this at the grass-roots level?

I was hoping some of the smears would be wrapped up and sent to the trash bin as a result of the DNC. Maybe the JK truth squad will do it at the end of this month, during the repug orgy of self-love.

But Jeez, it does feel like time is slipping away. :(
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