berni_mccoy
(1000+ posts)
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Sun May-11-08 09:33 PM
Original message |
| OH THIS IS RICH! Latest Clinton Ad Uses Newspaper Clipping on TROOPERGATE! |
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Edited on Sun May-11-08 09:34 PM by berni_mccoy
They couldn't actually find a newspaper clipping that was titled what they wanted ("Obama Attacks Clinton gas tax plan"), so they made one up... but they attached the headline to a Troopergate article! LOL! Here is a screen capture from the downloaded hi-res copy from Clinton's website:  I noticed because I wanted to read the article and several words/phrases were quite readable. Then I saw it: "Troopergate" not once, but twice, sticking out like a sore thumb! Then I could read several other phrases: "had notarized a written statement signed by the governor's former communications director.. whether he has a private attorney to represent him in the Troopergate scandal."
" 'It is their job to do what they do'... said of investigators. 'It is my job to cooperate, which is exactly what I have done. I have answered all the questions over and over.'" See for yourself. Here is a link to the ad from Clinton's website: http://www.hillaryclinton.com/video/182.aspx Note: For those not familiar with Troopergate, see Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troopergate Here is the summary: Troopergate is the popular name of an alleged scandal involving allegations by two Arkansas state troopers that they arranged sexual liaisons for then-governor Bill Clinton. The allegations by state troopers Larry Patterson and Roger Perry were first reported by David Brock in the American Spectator in 1993. The story mentioned a woman named Paula, a reference to Paula Jones.
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some kind of false flag op? |
Teaser |
May-11-08 09:35 PM |
#1 |
 
I have NO idea why the Clinton ad makers would do this. It's absolutely insane. |
berni_mccoy |
May-11-08 09:36 PM |
#4 |
  
I hope someone in MSM calls her out on this |
hokies4ever |
May-12-08 01:37 AM |
#126 |
   
This looks like a job for SUPER-OLBERMANN!! n/t |
PoliticalAmazon |
May-12-08 08:12 PM |
#209 |
  
The Original Article is here |
rust1d |
May-12-08 06:50 AM |
#140 |
   
yep, charlie picked that up downthread yesterday. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-12-08 10:24 AM |
#164 |
  
Mort Sahl said something interesting on KO the other night.... |
PoliticalAmazon |
May-12-08 08:19 PM |
#211 |
 
Seems false-flag all the way to me |
VolcanoJen |
May-11-08 10:40 PM |
#85 |
 
Or maybe the grunts actually making the video ... |
krkaufman |
May-12-08 12:56 AM |
#124 |

You found that? WOW! Whoever did that is going to get in big trouble. No way it was an accident. |
MidwestTransplant |
May-11-08 09:35 PM |
#2 |

They must have some seriously stupid people working in their media department... |
GarbagemanLB |
May-11-08 09:36 PM |
#3 |
 
it's like subliminal advertising FOR OBAMA! |
cryingshame |
May-11-08 09:38 PM |
#6 |
  
OBAMA Smearing Clinton - not a surprise |
papau |
May-12-08 03:21 PM |
#184 |
 
It's a CLINTON ad. Made by the CLINTON campaign. |
cui bono |
May-12-08 03:53 PM |
#187 |
  
Being that confused about it, I wonder if he works on the Clinton Ad Team... |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 04:04 PM |
#189 |
 
I figured I better reply to him/her since apparently the rest of DU has them on ignore. |
cui bono |
May-12-08 04:15 PM |
#190 |
 
uh....what? |
lakercub |
May-12-08 05:34 PM |
#195 |
 
Why do you assume it was a MISTAKE? |
IanDB1 |
May-11-08 09:47 PM |
#24 |

the whole team there has been fed up for along time_this is pay back from p'ssd off staffers. |
caligirl |
May-11-08 10:23 PM |
#82 |

Good point. Pissed off staffers who are owed money. |
MidwestTransplant |
May-11-08 10:55 PM |
#95 |
 
Bingo. It's kind of like spitting in your boss' coffee. She owes them. |
Ian_rd |
May-12-08 07:08 AM |
#142 |

That's my thinking. Someone disgruntled or just annoyed. n/t |
krkaufman |
May-12-08 12:57 AM |
#125 |

Yoiks |
charlie |
May-11-08 09:37 PM |
# |
 
DOESN'T EVERYONE SEE WHAT ELSE IT SAYS. |
acquiesce4ever |
May-12-08 03:59 AM |
#132 |

ALSO. . . |
acquiesce4ever |
May-12-08 04:03 AM |
#133 |
 
Nice catches. Including this text and the other one about Clinton's |
suffragette |
May-12-08 01:28 PM |
#180 |

Yes, I've noticed that now. Several posters at Kos have noticed that as well as some |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 08:22 AM |
#146 |

LOL!!! Here's a screen cap: |
SallyMander |
May-12-08 10:33 AM |
#167 |

wth?? |
electron_blue |
May-12-08 11:50 AM |
#173 |

Just when you think |
Andy823 |
May-11-08 09:37 PM |
#5 |
 
Somebody must be disgruntled. |
Frumious B |
May-11-08 09:42 PM |
#14 |

I don't know who did it, but imagine you are a black person working on her... |
Heather MC |
May-11-08 11:18 PM |
#101 |

I find your post offensive. |
Stephanie |
May-12-08 12:34 AM |
#119 |

I too find your comment offensive. You don't have to be black to be offended by Hillary's |
mod mom |
May-12-08 10:37 AM |
#169 |

The only possible answer is that Hillary's own campaign staff is trying to sabotage her. |
IanDB1 |
May-11-08 09:38 PM |
#7 |

Absolutely insane. I've saved the QT of it, since they're sure to change it. |
BlooInBloo |
May-11-08 09:38 PM |
#8 |
 
Yep, I've downloaded it as well. Definitely a keeper! |
berni_mccoy |
May-11-08 09:39 PM |
#9 |
 
How did you save it in QT?.?.? |
MagickMuffin |
May-12-08 06:38 AM |
#137 |

somebody didn't get paid... |
stillcool47 |
May-11-08 09:40 PM |
#10 |

They could have put that headline over some NASCAR results |
powergirl |
May-11-08 09:40 PM |
#11 |
 
I f***ing hate you right now |
KSinTX |
May-12-08 12:27 AM |
#117 |

LOL! |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 12:37 AM |
#120 |

"I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message." |
parasim |
May-11-08 09:41 PM |
#12 |

LOL! This is better than John McCain in the Fox logo! nt |
PM7nj |
May-11-08 09:41 PM |
#13 |

Wow! How in the hell did that happen? Why? They are screwed up in that campaign. nt |
AlinPA |
May-11-08 09:42 PM |
#15 |

please, someone send this to Olbermann |
cryingshame |
May-11-08 09:42 PM |
#16 |

Fire up the emails |
hnmnf |
May-11-08 09:42 PM |
#17 |
 
Jon Stewart, |
zidzi |
May-11-08 10:12 PM |
#73 |

HA HA ......another example of how incompetent that campaign has been run n/t |
kevinmc |
May-11-08 09:43 PM |
#18 |

Disgruntled worker. |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-11-08 09:43 PM |
#19 |

I thought this was complete BS....till I watched it. Ready from Day One- my ass |
NightWatcher |
May-11-08 09:45 PM |
#20 |

How weird. The Clinton's continue to deceive. But why that article from Bill's past? |
quantass |
May-11-08 09:45 PM |
#21 |
 
It's Spitzer's Troopergate scandal with Joe Bruno - still weird. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 10:05 PM |
#61 |
  
At least paste the fake headline on an article ABOUT the gas tax! |
gateley |
May-11-08 10:42 PM |
#89 |
 
charlie found the real article below - Troopergate made me think of Spitzer 1st |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 10:54 PM |
#94 |
 
Even if its Bruno's gas tax proposal! |
whistler162 |
May-12-08 12:22 AM |
#115 |
 
That's where my mind went immediately on hearing "Troopergate" too. |
Jackpine Radical |
May-12-08 10:31 AM |
#166 |

Is someone trying to demolish any chances, which are none |
Ichingcarpenter |
May-11-08 09:45 PM |
#22 |

oh man that's funny...and weird...and sad all at the same time. |
libnnc |
May-11-08 09:46 PM |
#23 |

Amazing! K & R |
yourguide |
May-11-08 09:47 PM |
# |

That's insane!!!! |
mcctatas |
May-11-08 09:47 PM |
#25 |
 
There's no "how" here but believe it or not... |
cui bono |
May-12-08 04:00 PM |
#188 |

.... |
mcctatas |
May-12-08 05:35 PM |
#197 |

Proof |
ProSense |
May-11-08 09:47 PM |
#26 |

Oh dear, if I hadn't seen that with my own eyes I never would have |
No Surrender |
May-11-08 09:48 PM |
#27 |
 
Me too. I could not believe it at first. |
berni_mccoy |
May-11-08 09:50 PM |
#32 |

Cripes |
charlie |
May-11-08 09:48 PM |
#28 |
 
Nice find! |
BlooInBloo |
May-11-08 09:54 PM |
#38 |
 
GReat find. How stupid to make up a fake newspaper article, |
DemsUnited |
May-11-08 09:55 PM |
#39 |
  
it's not the sex scandal - it's Spitzer going after Bruno, his legislative nemesis. Still... nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 09:56 PM |
#46 |
 
Thanks for the correction. That makes it a little less weird, I guess. Well maybe not. |
DemsUnited |
May-11-08 10:00 PM |
#54 |
 
It's still weird given the Clintons' own Troopergate and sex scandals and lawsuits. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 10:03 PM |
#59 |
 
Yes. ANYTHING would have been better copy under that headline. |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 12:07 AM |
#111 |
 
Not to mention the mental link to NY and its pols |
KSinTX |
May-12-08 12:31 AM |
#118 |
 
Thanks for the correction. That's EXACTLY the article. Good match-up! |
berni_mccoy |
May-11-08 09:55 PM |
#40 |
  
You know what would be even cooler? Can anyone find the original newspaper article? |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 10:01 PM |
#55 |
  
Haw! |
charlie |
May-11-08 10:03 PM |
#58 |
 
That's even weirder! |
stillcool47 |
May-11-08 09:56 PM |
#45 |
 
So what if it is about Spitzer? If they went to the trouble to make up the headline, |
gateley |
May-11-08 10:41 PM |
#87 |
 
"...a special piquancy..." LOVE it! nt |
gateley |
May-11-08 11:29 PM |
#104 |

Oh my, you're right! Is this ad on air or just a web ad? |
DemsUnited |
May-11-08 09:48 PM |
#29 |
 
Both on air and on web. |
berni_mccoy |
May-11-08 09:51 PM |
#33 |

And a third time I say, Oh My. This is just bizarre. |
DemsUnited |
May-11-08 09:57 PM |
#48 |

Let me see if I have this right. |
merh |
May-11-08 09:48 PM |
#30 |

but is that Spitzer's Troopergate? It mentions Albany and Manhattan |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 09:49 PM |
#31 |
 
actually, 2nd column looks like they patched over Spitzer's name (with zer) nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 09:53 PM |
#36 |
 
It's definately from Spitzer. However, Clinton's cock initiated the "Troopergate" term |
cryingshame |
May-11-08 09:53 PM |
#37 |
 
Oh drat...you are probably correct. |
yourguide |
May-11-08 09:59 PM |
#52 |

Charlie, post 28 got it right: it's Spitzer's Troopergate, but still...considering Bill's TG....n/t |
Garbo 2004 |
May-11-08 09:52 PM |
#34 |

Will this primary season get any loonier? |
WesDem |
May-11-08 09:53 PM |
#35 |
 
at this point, I'm almost glad Hillary is imploding. It's comic gold. |
cryingshame |
May-11-08 09:56 PM |
#44 |

Wow ... just ... Wow. |
NewHampshireDem |
May-11-08 09:55 PM |
#41 |
 
LOL! |
berni_mccoy |
May-11-08 09:57 PM |
#47 |

Thanks for the LOL! |
NewHampshireDem |
May-11-08 10:04 PM |
#60 |

OH....MY....GOD!!! |
sktmax |
May-11-08 09:55 PM |
#42 |

With that minor mystery solved: So basically THERE IS NO SUCH HEADLINED ARTICLE.... |
BlooInBloo |
May-11-08 09:55 PM |
#43 |
 
Spitzer was a Clinton supporter and super delegate for her also |
Ichingcarpenter |
May-11-08 10:02 PM |
#57 |
 
There actually is an AP article with that title... |
No Surrender |
May-11-08 10:07 PM |
#63 |

You're right! Why in the world wouldn't they just use the original AP |
DemsUnited |
May-11-08 10:09 PM |
#66 |
 
that;s my question too. It could've been a simple mistake. |
slinkerwink |
May-11-08 10:49 PM |
#92 |
 
They can't use the original article |
bluescribbler |
May-12-08 10:13 AM |
#161 |

So why'd they fake it??? (Good find!) |
BlooInBloo |
May-11-08 10:09 PM |
#67 |

oh, that's another good find. thanks. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 10:09 PM |
#68 |

I guess that "phony ideas" wouldn't look so great on TV, eh? |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 11:40 PM |
#108 |

Righto. So they ditched "phoney ideas" for "Troopergate." |
No Surrender |
May-12-08 08:21 AM |
#145 |

You. Cannot. Make. This. $hit. Up. |
Tatiana |
May-11-08 09:57 PM |
#49 |

Go post that on KOS and post the link... |
yourguide |
May-11-08 09:58 PM |
#50 |

Hey - Scandal you can Xerox! nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 09:58 PM |
#51 |
 
LOL |
Garbo 2004 |
May-11-08 10:00 PM |
#53 |

Def NY troopergate... |
yourguide |
May-11-08 10:02 PM |
#56 |

Someone got lazy... |
TwoSparkles |
May-11-08 10:06 PM |
#62 |
 
don't layout programs have that fake Latin text to use to fill in |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 10:08 PM |
#65 |

Lorem ipsum dolor! lolol! Haven't thought about Pagemaker in decades. |
BlooInBloo |
May-11-08 10:10 PM |
#70 |

that's it! It's been so long since I took Latin |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 10:12 PM |
#74 |

"dolor" ia pain or hurt, I believe, but that's all of those words I know... |
BlooInBloo |
May-11-08 10:16 PM |
#79 |

oh, here's a whole website about it |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 10:19 PM |
#80 |

Awesome - Cicero! Heh - it's all good if it's in the interests of knowledge - thanks! |
BlooInBloo |
May-11-08 10:21 PM |
#81 |

thats actually something to do with eliot spitzer i think |
goletian |
May-11-08 10:07 PM |
#64 |

she`s ready on day one......god are these guys dumb |
madrchsod |
May-11-08 10:10 PM |
#69 |
 
I wonder if they're as expensive as Mark Penn? maybe they couldn't afford to buy a copy of the paper |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 10:10 PM |
#72 |

This is amazing... |
arcos |
May-11-08 10:10 PM |
#71 |

GOV SPITZER, AIDES MUM ON PRIVATE LAWYER HIRE IN TROOPERGATE SCANDAL |
goletian |
May-11-08 10:14 PM |
#75 |
 
yep, someone caught it upthread - and also that the headline is real , but pasted to the text! nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 10:16 PM |
#78 |

Was NY Daily News the one that ran the "Toast" front page? Or was that NY Post? nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 10:15 PM |
#76 |
 
The Post |
lisa58 |
May-11-08 10:40 PM |
#86 |

thanks - I'm sure all the NY papers will be on it now that it's here and on blogs mentioned below nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 10:45 PM |
#90 |

Great catch. I would have never noticed that fine print. |
IsItJustMe |
May-11-08 10:15 PM |
#77 |

Google search for troopergate spitzer clinton obama has you on the front page! |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 10:26 PM |
#83 |

Change you can't even xerox right! |
Terri S |
May-11-08 10:39 PM |
#84 |

Berni your now posted in a diary at Kos_ nice set of eyes there Berni. |
caligirl |
May-11-08 10:41 PM |
#88 |
 
there's an insightful comment over there going over the skips and gaps |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 11:17 PM |
#100 |

LOL Someone posted this Gem: "I guess it's hard to photoshop under sniper fire." |
berni_mccoy |
May-11-08 11:34 PM |
#107 |

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHH- HAHAA- HAHHAHH |
skyounkin |
May-12-08 12:13 AM |
#112 |

Ahahahahahahahahahaha! n/t |
Lady-Damai |
May-12-08 04:16 AM |
#134 |

Incoming! ROFL! |
jazzjunkysue |
May-12-08 11:54 AM |
#174 |

Big K & R !!! |
WillyT |
May-11-08 10:47 PM |
# |

"Obama attacks Clinton's gas tax plan" |
dchill |
May-11-08 10:47 PM |
#91 |

... |
bigbrother05 |
May-11-08 10:50 PM |
#93 |

K&R. This is so freaking bizarre. I want to know the story behind the story... |
JBoy |
May-11-08 11:02 PM |
#96 |

Bernie climbs the wall for a great |
grantcart |
May-11-08 11:10 PM |
#97 |
 
ROFLMAO! Thanks Grant! |
berni_mccoy |
May-11-08 11:31 PM |
#105 |

"I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message." is gonna sting. |
Frustratedlady |
May-11-08 11:11 PM |
#98 |
 
I'm guessing Spitzer's name would have jumped right out under the headline |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-11-08 11:15 PM |
#99 |
  
man......this is too rich |
slinkerwink |
May-11-08 11:44 PM |
#110 |
 
They also changed the first line |
Ms. Toad |
May-12-08 09:06 AM |
#152 |

So then... |
FatDave |
May-12-08 10:39 AM |
#170 |

Don't know about that - but a long list of changes |
Ms. Toad |
May-12-08 06:15 PM |
#204 |

If I were Hillary, I wouldn't pay for the production work |
LiberalAndProud |
May-11-08 11:23 PM |
#102 |
 
She won't pay for it |
bluescribbler |
May-12-08 10:19 AM |
#163 |

Good eyes, berni! |
phrigndumass |
May-11-08 11:25 PM |
#103 |
 
Thanks phrign! I appreciate all the hard work you've been doing too! |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 12:17 AM |
#113 |

Good catch. |
Scurrilous |
May-11-08 11:32 PM |
#106 |

If I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't have believed it |
mikiturner |
May-11-08 11:41 PM |
#109 |

"Disgruntled employee" k*r |
autorank |
May-12-08 12:20 AM |
#114 |
 
Several posters on Kos have noted |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 12:26 AM |
#116 |

failed to give proper credit(attribution as per copyright)NYDaily News |
caligirl |
May-12-08 02:21 AM |
#127 |
 
They could. I don't know why... it's self inflicted damage at this point. |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 08:24 AM |
#147 |

That's interesting |
autorank |
May-12-08 02:30 AM |
#128 |

On the list of most bizarre shit I've ever seen, this is up there. |
Bleachers7 |
May-12-08 12:39 AM |
#121 |
 
Yes, indeed. |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 12:43 AM |
#122 |

These people are stupid. I would have never believed she would run such a bastardized campaign |
redstate_democrat |
May-12-08 12:56 AM |
#123 |

How does one email Chuck Todd and KO about this story..they will have it on the news tomorrow! |
quantass |
May-12-08 02:30 AM |
#129 |

Why do |
Gilligan |
May-12-08 02:36 AM |
#130 |

Has anyone emailed: Cafferty, Dan Abrams, KO, Jon Stewart, Colbert and others yet? Hope so! |
quantass |
May-12-08 02:48 AM |
#131 |

WTF? |
Prophet 451 |
May-12-08 05:23 AM |
#135 |
 
it's actually Spitzer's Troopergate, but that just adds another level of bizarre. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-12-08 10:26 AM |
#165 |

Self-deleted |
jordi_fanclub |
May-12-08 05:40 AM |
#136 |

Ha! |
blogslut |
May-12-08 06:40 AM |
#138 |

So what? |
MJJP21 |
May-12-08 06:45 AM |
#139 |
 
Um. It's a T.V. ad to boot. And, the text is quite visible in HD. |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 08:02 AM |
#143 |

URGENT: Read "Blinded by the Right," by David Brock. Brock wrote the Troopergate story. |
Perry Logan |
May-12-08 06:57 AM |
#141 |
 
Sorry Perry; |
greiner3 |
May-12-08 08:26 AM |
#148 |
 
No one is saying Troopergate is valid. You are missing the point of the post. |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 08:26 AM |
#149 |
 
Not the same "troopergate" |
Teaser |
May-12-08 09:39 AM |
#156 |
 
Sorry Perry, but history now shows how plausible Troopergate was |
Grinchie |
May-12-08 03:00 PM |
#182 |

This is what happens when you stop paying Karl Rove's fees: The Elves |
jazzjunkysue |
May-12-08 08:13 AM |
#144 |

SWEET! |
Vote4Change |
May-12-08 08:48 AM |
#150 |

Last time I fell into the "white n*****" thing without thinking... so are there any |
HereSince1628 |
May-12-08 08:56 AM |
#151 |
 
It's pretty much assured that this came from team Clinton. Both her hi-res version |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 09:10 AM |
#153 |

Amazingly strange that it got all the way to their website. |
HereSince1628 |
May-12-08 09:22 AM |
#154 |

Ready On Day One... NOT. Thoroughly Vetted... NOT. |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 09:26 AM |
#155 |

the phrase "you're doing a heck of a job, Brownie" comes to mind |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
May-12-08 09:56 AM |
#157 |
 
I think you mean, "You're doing a heck of a job, Bernie". |
King Coal |
May-12-08 03:40 PM |
#186 |

Politico has now picked up the story. |
jefferson_dem |
May-12-08 09:58 AM |
#158 |
 
It's got legs! |
jazzjunkysue |
May-12-08 12:01 PM |
#175 |
 
Thanks jefferson_dem. Ben's Title: Subliminnable. *snicker* |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 12:17 PM |
#176 |

hee hee LOL that IS funny |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
May-12-08 09:58 AM |
#159 |

This is fucking funny... |
snooper2 |
May-12-08 10:06 AM |
#160 |

Obviously someone in her campaign wants all this to end... |
mystieus |
May-12-08 10:17 AM |
#162 |

If you are a Digg member, digg this up... |
Bleachers7 |
May-12-08 10:35 AM |
#168 |

Ironically , the troopers confessed that they lied about the whole thing... |
WillyToad |
May-12-08 10:45 AM |
#171 |
 
It's a CLINTON ad. Made by the CLINTON campaign. |
cui bono |
May-12-08 04:18 PM |
#191 |
 
It was the Hillary slime machine |
lakercub |
May-12-08 06:13 PM |
#203 |

Nice work, Berni! This will go blogoglobal by mid-morning |
Turn CO Blue |
May-12-08 10:58 AM |
#172 |

This is insane |
SharonRB |
May-12-08 12:27 PM |
#177 |
 
Why? A colleague suggested to me that all scenes whether real or created depict |
HereSince1628 |
May-12-08 12:39 PM |
#178 |

Now on Google |
sktmax |
May-12-08 01:27 PM |
#179 |
 
I was just about to google |
mdmc |
May-12-08 02:07 PM |
#181 |

Currently #14 on Reddit |
charlie |
May-12-08 03:07 PM |
#183 |

TransWorldNews has picked up the story... |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 03:34 PM |
#185 |

If this got by her... |
cui bono |
May-12-08 04:30 PM |
#192 |
 
Good question. |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 05:06 PM |
#193 |
 
excellent point! |
bambino |
May-12-08 05:10 PM |
#194 |

This post is even better after watching the SNL skit from the weekend. |
cui bono |
May-12-08 05:34 PM |
#196 |

Bill Clinton is 50% of the reason I don't want Hillary in the White House... |
Imagevision |
May-12-08 05:44 PM |
#198 |

sent to Huffpo! |
npincus |
May-12-08 05:46 PM |
#199 |

It's been over 20 hours, and this video is STILL at her website. |
Vickers |
May-12-08 06:04 PM |
#200 |
 
They may not yet know why their traffic is spiking or why this video is getting so much attention. |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 07:23 PM |
#207 |

Too freakin bizarre! Good catch, Berni... |
NorthernSpy |
May-12-08 06:05 PM |
#201 |

Great catch Berni |
WIllo |
May-12-08 06:09 PM |
#202 |
 
LOL. True enough. I think I got taken off that list a while ago. |
berni_mccoy |
May-12-08 07:20 PM |
#206 |

Hillary can't even run a competent campaign. And she wants to run the country? No thank you. n/t |
invictus |
May-12-08 06:17 PM |
#205 |

Here's the original New York Daily News article. |
Towlie |
May-12-08 07:47 PM |
#208 |
 
yes, it's up there many times now. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
May-13-08 12:06 AM |
#212 |

Suicide By Newsprint (SBN) |
Prisoner_Number_Six |
May-12-08 08:15 PM |
#210 |

So, what happened to this? |
Terri S |
May-13-08 07:19 AM |
#213 |
 
What happened is the Election is Over. It doesn't matter anymore. |
berni_mccoy |
May-13-08 08:11 AM |
#214 |

Why is this ad still up today? |
electron_blue |
May-13-08 12:19 PM |
#215 |

Either they don't care or they don't know... |
berni_mccoy |
May-13-08 04:58 PM |
#216 |
Teaser
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Sun May-11-08 09:35 PM
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| 1. some kind of false flag op? |
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This doesn't make any sense....
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berni_mccoy
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Sun May-11-08 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
| 4. I have NO idea why the Clinton ad makers would do this. It's absolutely insane. |
hokies4ever
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Mon May-12-08 01:37 AM
Response to Reply #4 |
| 126. I hope someone in MSM calls her out on this |
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This is utterly despicable. Is grossly misleading and Hillary's campaign should have their feet held to the fire a little bit for this one.
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PoliticalAmazon
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Mon May-12-08 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #126 |
| 209. This looks like a job for SUPER-OLBERMANN!! n/t |
rust1d
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Mon May-12-08 06:50 AM
Response to Reply #4 |
| 140. The Original Article is here |
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2007/12/18/200... ALBANY - Gov. Spitzer and his aides won't tell New Yorkers whether he has a private attorney to represent him in the Troopergate scandal. At a tense press conference at the state Capitol on Monday, Spitzer also refused to discuss the parallel probes by the Albany district attorney's office and the state Public Integrity Commission, insisting, "I have answered all these questions at length." "Obviously, we are cooperating fully," he said. "It is their job to do what they do," Spitzer said of investigators. "It is my job to cooperate, which is exactly what I have done. I have answered all the questions, over and over." But Senate Investigations Committee Chairman George Winner (R-Elmira) said the governor was engaging in "more stonewalling" by refusing to tell the public whether he has retained a private attorney. "This man is incapable of leveling with anyone," added Winner, whose committee has met stiff resistance from the administration on its subpoenas seeking e-mails and other documents relating to the effort by Spitzer aides to discredit Senate GOP leader Joe Bruno. Spitzer did acknowledge, as reported in yesterday's Daily News, that his office received a new subpoena from Albany County District Attorney David Soares in the reopened investigation into the scandal. Meanwhile, The News learned that the administration's chief counsel, David Nocenti, a witness in the Troopergate affair, has hired Albany lawyer Peter Moschetti, and another high-ranking Spitzer cabinet member, Sean Patrick Maloney, has retained Manhattan lawyer Bart Schwartz.
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Muttocracy
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Mon May-12-08 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #140 |
| 164. yep, charlie picked that up downthread yesterday. nt |
PoliticalAmazon
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Mon May-12-08 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #4 |
| 211. Mort Sahl said something interesting on KO the other night.... |
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They were talking about figuring out why people do things (I think that was the context). Mort Sahl said:
(loose quote) "Well, sometimes you have to look at it another way. Bill Clinton makes all these gaffes on the campaign traal, and people ask, "He wants his wife to be president, why does he make so many blunders that hurt her chances?" What you have to do is step back and ask, is what I assume he really wants--is that REALLY what HE wants?"
When we open our minds to the possibility that what someon should be really wanting may not be what he really wants, Bill's blunders on the campaign trail start to make sense.
Using a tropergate article is such a blunder, and exactly one of th issues the Clintons DON'T want brought up.
So we ask ourselves, "Obviously the Clinton staffer who put up that article really wants Clinton to win. So why would they make such a bonehead mistake?" What we need to do is step back and ask ourselves, "WHatI assume the Clinton staffer really wants, is that REALLY what HE/SHE wants?
So if we throw aside the assumption and ask ourselves "Is what we think the staffer wants REALLY what HE/SHE wants, we can see that perhaps it isn't what the staffer wants. Perhaps this staffer wants the campaign over, and is nuding it along by an "oops" mistake.
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VolcanoJen
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Sun May-11-08 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
| 85. Seems false-flag all the way to me |
krkaufman
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Mon May-12-08 12:56 AM
Response to Reply #1 |
| 124. Or maybe the grunts actually making the video ... |
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... are kinda tired of Hillary's campaign, too, and tried to slip one by.
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MidwestTransplant
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Sun May-11-08 09:35 PM
Response to Original message |
| 2. You found that? WOW! Whoever did that is going to get in big trouble. No way it was an accident. |
GarbagemanLB
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Sun May-11-08 09:36 PM
Response to Original message |
| 3. They must have some seriously stupid people working in their media department... |
KittyWampus
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Sun May-11-08 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #3 |
| 6. it's like subliminal advertising FOR OBAMA! |
papau
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Mon May-12-08 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #6 |
| 184. OBAMA Smearing Clinton - not a surprise |
cui bono
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Mon May-12-08 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #184 |
| 187. It's a CLINTON ad. Made by the CLINTON campaign. |
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Edited on Mon May-12-08 03:54 PM by cui bono
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berni_mccoy
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Mon May-12-08 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #187 |
| 189. Being that confused about it, I wonder if he works on the Clinton Ad Team... |
cui bono
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Mon May-12-08 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #189 |
| 190. I figured I better reply to him/her since apparently the rest of DU has them on ignore. |
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Edited on Mon May-12-08 04:16 PM by cui bono
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lakercub
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Mon May-12-08 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #184 |
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Did you see which side actually produced the ad? Wow...
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Ian David
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Sun May-11-08 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #3 |
| 24. Why do you assume it was a MISTAKE? |  |
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The video every SuperDelegate should see by John Aravosis (DC) · 5/07/2008 08:20:00 PM ET · Link Discuss this post here: Make a comment · reddit · FARK · Digg It! CBS News tonight was brutal to Hillary. It compiled a bunch of the press coverage - again, brutal. Worst of all, they quote one of Hillary's own top strategists who says he told her (and then told the media he told her - nice) "you can't win this nomination." I think this last point is the most significant. Hillary's own senior staff is leaking information to the media to sabotage her campaign. That's how bad things have gotten, that's how bad she has gotten. It's yet another sign that she needs an intervention, fast. More: http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/video-every-superdel...
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caligirl
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Sun May-11-08 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #24 |
| 82. the whole team there has been fed up for along time_this is pay back from p'ssd off staffers. |
MidwestTransplant
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Sun May-11-08 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #82 |
| 95. Good point. Pissed off staffers who are owed money. |
Ian_rd
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Mon May-12-08 07:08 AM
Response to Reply #95 |
| 142. Bingo. It's kind of like spitting in your boss' coffee. She owes them. |
krkaufman
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Mon May-12-08 12:57 AM
Response to Reply #82 |
| 125. That's my thinking. Someone disgruntled or just annoyed. n/t |
charlie
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Sun May-11-08 09:37 PM
Original message |
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Somebody is SO gonna be fired. What a botch.
(Just means they'll get a week or two head start over everyone else in their job search)
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acquiesce4ever
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Mon May-12-08 03:59 AM
Response to Original message |
| 132. DOESN'T EVERYONE SEE WHAT ELSE IT SAYS. |
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...above the article, it says "Clinton aides admit it won't do much for you but would help her politically"
I've done some video editing and I know how deliverate everything is. There is no way any video editor would put in the troopergate article on accident, so i figured there were other pro-Obama parts to the Ad.
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acquiesce4ever
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Mon May-12-08 04:03 AM
Response to Reply #132 |
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It says "The Obama Plan: Tax Oil Companies" and "Invest In (then gets cut off by article)". We have ourselves not just an anti-clinton video editor, but a pro-Obama video editor!
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suffragette
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Mon May-12-08 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #133 |
| 180. Nice catches. Including this text and the other one about Clinton's |
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aides comments completely undercuts her own points. The Troopergate cut and paste is the coup de grâce.
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berni_mccoy
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Mon May-12-08 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #132 |
| 146. Yes, I've noticed that now. Several posters at Kos have noticed that as well as some |
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in this thread. I can no longer edit the original entry here (rules of posting threads here).
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SallyMander
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Mon May-12-08 10:33 AM
Response to Reply #132 |
| 167. LOL!!! Here's a screen cap: |
electron_blue
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Mon May-12-08 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #132 |
Andy823
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Sun May-11-08 09:37 PM
Response to Original message |
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They can't get any crazier, they show us they can!
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Frumious B
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Sun May-11-08 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 14. Somebody must be disgruntled. |
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Maybe he/she sees the campaign going down the tubes, the debt piled up and suspects that he/she might have a hard time cashing that next paycheck if it actually ever comes and slipped that graphic in as sort of a middle finger to the campaign.
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Heather MC
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Sun May-11-08 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #14 |
| 101. I don't know who did it, but imagine you are a black person working on her... |
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campaign and you find out that she said "hard working white americans...." Also her campaign is set up in Wash DC, DC is 90% Black, and big time Obama supporters I am thinking some of her team may have jumped ship. tisk tisk tisk
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Stephanie
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Mon May-12-08 12:34 AM
Response to Reply #101 |
| 119. I find your post offensive. |
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Her staff are doing the best job they can, under tryng circumstances, and regardless of race.
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mod mom
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Mon May-12-08 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #101 |
| 169. I too find your comment offensive. You don't have to be black to be offended by Hillary's |
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comment. I was deeply offended by it
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Ian David
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Sun May-11-08 09:38 PM
Response to Original message |
| 7. The only possible answer is that Hillary's own campaign staff is trying to sabotage her. |  |
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Or maybe someone from their advertising firm.
Or both.
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BlooInBloo
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Sun May-11-08 09:38 PM
Response to Original message |
| 8. Absolutely insane. I've saved the QT of it, since they're sure to change it. |
berni_mccoy
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Sun May-11-08 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #8 |
| 9. Yep, I've downloaded it as well. Definitely a keeper! |
MagickMuffin
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Mon May-12-08 06:38 AM
Response to Reply #8 |
| 137. How did you save it in QT?.?.? |
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Edited on Mon May-12-08 07:05 AM by MagickMuffin
EDIT:...........I JUST FOUND THE QT LINK 
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stillcool
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Sun May-11-08 09:40 PM
Response to Original message |
| 10. somebody didn't get paid... |
powergirl
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Sun May-11-08 09:40 PM
Response to Original message |
| 11. They could have put that headline over some NASCAR results |
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or something. Seriously, we can't have these folks at the Whitehouse. Are they going to print out treaties on the back of the Comics section???
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KSinTX
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Mon May-12-08 12:27 AM
Response to Reply #11 |
| 117. I f***ing hate you right now |
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 True spewage alert. Thanks - Best of Thread
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berni_mccoy
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Mon May-12-08 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #117 |
parasim
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Sun May-11-08 09:41 PM
Response to Original message |
| 12. "I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message." |
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Really? She approved that? Wow.
Amazing find there. Is that running on television yet?
amazing...
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PM7nj
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Sun May-11-08 09:41 PM
Response to Original message |
| 13. LOL! This is better than John McCain in the Fox logo! nt |
AlinPA
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Sun May-11-08 09:42 PM
Response to Original message |
| 15. Wow! How in the hell did that happen? Why? They are screwed up in that campaign. nt |
KittyWampus
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Sun May-11-08 09:42 PM
Response to Original message |
| 16. please, someone send this to Olbermann |
MadBadger
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Sun May-11-08 09:42 PM
Response to Original message |
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KO, Dan Abrams, Jack Cafferty
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Cha
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Sun May-11-08 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #17 |
kevinmc
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Sun May-11-08 09:43 PM
Response to Original message |
| 18. HA HA ......another example of how incompetent that campaign has been run n/t |
Danger Mouse
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Sun May-11-08 09:43 PM
Response to Original message |
NightWatcher
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Sun May-11-08 09:45 PM
Response to Original message |
| 20. I thought this was complete BS....till I watched it. Ready from Day One- my ass |
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somebody please tell me that this info got sent to Keith, Randi or any other newsies that could have us laughing all day long
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quantass
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Sun May-11-08 09:45 PM
Response to Original message |
| 21. How weird. The Clinton's continue to deceive. But why that article from Bill's past? |
Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #21 |
| 61. It's Spitzer's Troopergate scandal with Joe Bruno - still weird. nt |
gateley
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Sun May-11-08 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #61 |
| 89. At least paste the fake headline on an article ABOUT the gas tax! |
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Edited on Sun May-11-08 10:44 PM by gateley
Pretty shoddy.
Good catch, JIOOU!
EDIT to add that it may not be an intentional slam against Bill/The Clintons, but it's still embarrassingly STUPID.
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Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #89 |
| 94. charlie found the real article below - Troopergate made me think of Spitzer 1st |
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since I'm in NY and that was just last year.
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whistler162
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Mon May-12-08 12:22 AM
Response to Reply #89 |
| 115. Even if its Bruno's gas tax proposal! |
Jackpine Radical
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Mon May-12-08 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #21 |
| 166. That's where my mind went immediately on hearing "Troopergate" too. |
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Followed immediately by "WTF??"
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Ichingcarpenter
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Sun May-11-08 09:45 PM
Response to Original message |
| 22. Is someone trying to demolish any chances, which are none |
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From the inside of her campaign??
This is unreal....... Wow!
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libnnc
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Sun May-11-08 09:46 PM
Response to Original message |
| 23. oh man that's funny...and weird...and sad all at the same time. |
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Edited on Sun May-11-08 09:46 PM by libnnc
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yourguide
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Sun May-11-08 09:47 PM
Original message |
mcctatas
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Sun May-11-08 09:47 PM
Response to Original message |
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I wonder how they will turn this into Obama's fault 
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cui bono
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Mon May-12-08 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #25 |
| 188. There's no "how" here but believe it or not... |
mcctatas
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Mon May-12-08 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #188 |
ProSense
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Sun May-11-08 09:47 PM
Response to Original message |
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one of the worst campaigns ever. I thought the non-existent gun was bad.
Yikes!
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City Lights
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Sun May-11-08 09:48 PM
Response to Original message |
| 27. Oh dear, if I hadn't seen that with my own eyes I never would have |
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believed it. Great catch! 
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berni_mccoy
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Sun May-11-08 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #27 |
| 32. Me too. I could not believe it at first. |
charlie
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Sun May-11-08 09:48 PM
Response to Original message |
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It's an article on Eliot Spitzer! http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2007/12/18/200... Looks like someone grabbed the first text at hand and pasted it in. And was too dumb to realize that "Troopergate" takes on a special piquancy when applied to a Clinton. Whatta maroon.
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BlooInBloo
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Sun May-11-08 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #28 |
DemsUnited
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Sun May-11-08 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #28 |
| 39. GReat find. How stupid to make up a fake newspaper article, |
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but to use an Eliot Spitzer sex scandal article, criminally stupid.
And to use an Eliot Spitzer sex scandal article with the words Troopergate in it not once but twice, well that's just weird, crazy, and kind of sad.
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Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #39 |
| 46. it's not the sex scandal - it's Spitzer going after Bruno, his legislative nemesis. Still... nt |
DemsUnited
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Sun May-11-08 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #46 |
| 54. Thanks for the correction. That makes it a little less weird, I guess. Well maybe not. |
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No. It's still just mind-boggling.
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Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #54 |
| 59. It's still weird given the Clintons' own Troopergate and sex scandals and lawsuits. nt |
berni_mccoy
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Mon May-12-08 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #59 |
| 111. Yes. ANYTHING would have been better copy under that headline. |
KSinTX
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Mon May-12-08 12:31 AM
Response to Reply #59 |
| 118. Not to mention the mental link to NY and its pols |
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Dang, that's just sad all around 
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berni_mccoy
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Sun May-11-08 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #28 |
| 40. Thanks for the correction. That's EXACTLY the article. Good match-up! |
Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #40 |
| 55. You know what would be even cooler? Can anyone find the original newspaper article? |
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They've clearly done some weird editing or folding of the original. Is there a website where you can find a .pdf or image of the original page? Or anyone at a library with it on file? It's only 5 months old, might be around somewhere?
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charlie
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Sun May-11-08 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #40 |
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You're the one with the eagle eye, bernie. Thanks for the chuckle!
If you put this on your journal and submit it to Digg, it'll be front page in no time. They eat stuff like this up. And there's a dearth of Hillary fans over there.
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stillcool
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Sun May-11-08 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #28 |
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Edited on Sun May-11-08 09:59 PM by stillcool47
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gateley
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Sun May-11-08 10:41 PM
Response to Reply #28 |
| 87. So what if it is about Spitzer? If they went to the trouble to make up the headline, |
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why not just paste it over an article at least dealing with the gas tax subject?
It's another indication that her campaign isn't as sharp as it should be.
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gateley
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Sun May-11-08 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #28 |
| 104. "...a special piquancy..." LOVE it! nt |
DemsUnited
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Sun May-11-08 09:48 PM
Response to Original message |
| 29. Oh my, you're right! Is this ad on air or just a web ad? |
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This is weird, weird, weird!!!
And really obvious once you point it out. Was it hacked? I just can't imagine Clinton people doing this deliberately or even stupidly.
Again, oh my.
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berni_mccoy
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Sun May-11-08 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #29 |
| 33. Both on air and on web. |
DemsUnited
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Sun May-11-08 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #33 |
| 48. And a third time I say, Oh My. This is just bizarre. |
| 30. Let me see if I have this right. |
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Edited on Sun May-11-08 09:51 PM by merh
They took a newspaper article on troopergate and redacted the original headline to read "Obama attacks Clinton's gas tax plan" and used it in the ad for candidate Clinton?
Is that some odd subliminal message the ad folks were trying to get out there?
How will Hillary and her supporters try to blame this one on Obama?
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Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 09:49 PM
Response to Original message |
| 31. but is that Spitzer's Troopergate? It mentions Albany and Manhattan |
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Maybe they were trying to make it look like NY Times?
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Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #31 |
| 36. actually, 2nd column looks like they patched over Spitzer's name (with zer) nt |
KittyWampus
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Sun May-11-08 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #31 |
| 37. It's definately from Spitzer. However, Clinton's cock initiated the "Troopergate" term |
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Edited on Sun May-11-08 09:54 PM by cryingshame
not the best association.
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yourguide
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Sun May-11-08 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #31 |
| 52. Oh drat...you are probably correct. |
Garbo 2004
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Sun May-11-08 09:52 PM
Response to Original message |
| 34. Charlie, post 28 got it right: it's Spitzer's Troopergate, but still...considering Bill's TG....n/t |
Adelante
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Sun May-11-08 09:53 PM
Response to Original message |
| 35. Will this primary season get any loonier? |
KittyWampus
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Sun May-11-08 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 44. at this point, I'm almost glad Hillary is imploding. It's comic gold. |
NewHampshireDem
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Sun May-11-08 09:55 PM
Response to Original message |
| 41. Wow ... just ... Wow. |
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I did not believe it myself until I saw the video. Yes, there it is, about 1/3 of the way through. I've said it before, and I hope I don't have to say it again, someone please make her stop while she still has a shred of dignity left. On another note: I wonder how all those folks in the commercial feel about HRC now that they aren't getting their 30 pieces ... I mean, 30 dollars. Probably like this: 
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berni_mccoy
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Sun May-11-08 09:57 PM
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NewHampshireDem
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Sun May-11-08 10:04 PM
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And I know that you and I are really a little sad about it too. She made people believe she was going to do it--hell the ad even says she'll 'fight' for it!--she made them believe it was important to do, and now that PA is past ... oops! Poof! Off to find the next pander.
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BlooInBloo
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Sun May-11-08 09:55 PM
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| 43. With that minor mystery solved: So basically THERE IS NO SUCH HEADLINED ARTICLE.... |
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The Clinton campaign is fabricating. And in a way that really makes them look stupid.
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Ichingcarpenter
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Sun May-11-08 10:02 PM
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| 57. Spitzer was a Clinton supporter and super delegate for her also |
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The staff on the Clinton campaign must be tired, discouraged or just wanting to self destruct.
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City Lights
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Sun May-11-08 10:07 PM
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| 63. There actually is an AP article with that title... |
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...making the whole thing even odder. Obama attacks Clinton's gas tax planBy DAVID ESPO and BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writers Sat May 3, 4:36 PM ET INDIANAPOLIS - Broadening his attack, Barack Obama said Saturday that Hillary Rodham Clinton's support for a summertime break from the federal gasoline tax symbolizes a candidacy consisting of "phony ideas, calculated to win elections instead of actually solving problems." Not so, the former first lady told a campaign audience as the next round of primaries approached. Obama is "attacking my plan to try to get you some kind of break this summer," she said. Locked in a Democratic presidential race for the ages, Clinton and Obama campaigned across Indiana and North Carolina at the same time they competed in Guam's caucuses and added to their convention delegate totals in several states. In all, four delegates were at stake in Guam half a world away from the U.S. mainland. But given the closeness of the race, both candidates made an effort to win. more... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080503/ap_on_el_pr/democra...
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DemsUnited
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Sun May-11-08 10:09 PM
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| 66. You're right! Why in the world wouldn't they just use the original AP |
slinkerwink
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Sun May-11-08 10:49 PM
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| 92. that;s my question too. It could've been a simple mistake. |
bluescribbler
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Mon May-12-08 10:13 AM
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| 161. They can't use the original article |
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These words, Hillary Rodham Clinton's support for a summertime break from the federal gasoline tax symbolizes a candidacy consisting of "phony ideas, calculated to win elections instead of actually solving problems."
won't do Clinton any favors. Voters might actually find some validity in that idea. 
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BlooInBloo
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Sun May-11-08 10:09 PM
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| 67. So why'd they fake it??? (Good find!) |
Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 10:09 PM
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| 68. oh, that's another good find. thanks. nt |
Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 11:40 PM
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| 108. I guess that "phony ideas" wouldn't look so great on TV, eh? |
City Lights
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Mon May-12-08 08:21 AM
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| 145. Righto. So they ditched "phoney ideas" for "Troopergate." |
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Who did it and why...wonder if we'll find out.
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Tatiana
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Sun May-11-08 09:57 PM
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| 49. You. Cannot. Make. This. $hit. Up. |
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Interesting find, berni...
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yourguide
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Sun May-11-08 09:58 PM
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| 50. Go post that on KOS and post the link... |
Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 09:58 PM
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| 51. Hey - Scandal you can Xerox! nt |
Garbo 2004
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Sun May-11-08 10:00 PM
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yourguide
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Sun May-11-08 10:02 PM
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| 56. Def NY troopergate... |
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references Sean Patrick Maloney
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CoffeeCat
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Sun May-11-08 10:06 PM
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I'm sure the orders were to make that look like a legitimate newspaper article.
So, they lifted the headline from a real article and pasted in their own.
Why on earth didn't this person just write a short article--which would take about 10 minutes, and use a font that looks like newspaper copy?
Very, very bizarre!
The Spitzer story wasn't even in the headlines during the Indiana primary, so whomever did this had to go back weeks for that Spitzer article. Really weird.
Makes you wonder if it wasn't deliberate.
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Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 10:08 PM
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| 65. don't layout programs have that fake Latin text to use to fill in |
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"Ipsum dolor.." something or other.
had they left that, it would have been lazy, but easy to say, "oops, we sent the early layout draft by accident!"
Instead, it's a mangled/folded/slightly edited real article on a Spitzer scandal from 2007!
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BlooInBloo
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Sun May-11-08 10:10 PM
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| 70. Lorem ipsum dolor! lolol! Haven't thought about Pagemaker in decades. |
Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 10:12 PM
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| 74. that's it! It's been so long since I took Latin |
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I can't remember the translation anymore. But yes, the person on our staff who drafts the newsletter layout uses one of those programs.
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BlooInBloo
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Sun May-11-08 10:16 PM
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| 79. "dolor" ia pain or hurt, I believe, but that's all of those words I know... |
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It's tough with Latin and Greek, because all of the declensions can make cognates look like anything but.
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Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 10:19 PM
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| 80. oh, here's a whole website about it |
BlooInBloo
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Sun May-11-08 10:21 PM
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| 81. Awesome - Cicero! Heh - it's all good if it's in the interests of knowledge - thanks! |
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Sun May-11-08 10:07 PM
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| 64. thats actually something to do with eliot spitzer i think |
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Sun May-11-08 10:10 PM
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| 69. she`s ready on day one......god are these guys dumb |
Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 10:10 PM
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| 72. I wonder if they're as expensive as Mark Penn? maybe they couldn't afford to buy a copy of the paper |
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Edited on Sun May-11-08 10:11 PM by JoeIsOneOfUs
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Sun May-11-08 10:10 PM
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goletian
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Sun May-11-08 10:14 PM
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| 75. GOV SPITZER, AIDES MUM ON PRIVATE LAWYER HIRE IN TROOPERGATE SCANDAL |
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2007/12/18/200... ALBANY - Gov. Spitzer and his aides won't tell New Yorkers whether he has a private attorney to represent him in the Troopergate scandal.
At a tense press conference at the state Capitol on Monday, Spitzer also refused to discuss the parallel probes by the Albany district attorney's office and the state Public Integrity Commission, insisting, "I have answered all these questions at length."
"Obviously, we are cooperating fully," he said.
"It is their job to do what they do," Spitzer said of investigators. "It is my job to cooperate, which is exactly what I have done. I have answered all the questions, over and over."
But Senate Investigations Committee Chairman George Winner (R-Elmira) said the governor was engaging in "more stonewalling" by refusing to tell the public whether he has retained a private attorney.
"This man is incapable of leveling with anyone," added Winner, whose committee has met stiff resistance from the administration on its subpoenas seeking e-mails and other documents relating to the effort by Spitzer aides to discredit Senate GOP leader Joe Bruno.
Spitzer did acknowledge, as reported in yesterday's Daily News, that his office received a new subpoena from Albany County District Attorney David Soares in the reopened investigation into the scandal.
Meanwhile, The News learned that the administration's chief counsel, David Nocenti, a witness in the Troopergate affair, has hired Albany lawyer Peter Moschetti, and another high-ranking Spitzer cabinet member, Sean Patrick Maloney, has retained Manhattan lawyer Bart Schwartz.
Nocenti had notarized a written statement signed by Darren Dopp, the governor's former communications director. Sources say Soares is trying to determine if Dopp has made false statements.
Spitzer, a former criminal prosecutor, balked at releasing a copy of the subpoena that Soares directed to his administration, saying, "I'm not sure what the rules are with respect to that."
Asked why Spitzer refuses to say whether he has a lawyer, the governor's spokesman, Errol Cockfield, said, "It would be inappropriate to comment while there are ongoing investigations."
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Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 10:16 PM
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| 78. yep, someone caught it upthread - and also that the headline is real , but pasted to the text! nt |
Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 10:15 PM
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| 76. Was NY Daily News the one that ran the "Toast" front page? Or was that NY Post? nt |
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Sun May-11-08 10:40 PM
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Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 10:45 PM
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| 90. thanks - I'm sure all the NY papers will be on it now that it's here and on blogs mentioned below nt |
IsItJustMe
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Sun May-11-08 10:15 PM
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| 77. Great catch. I would have never noticed that fine print. |
Muttocracy
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Sun May-11-08 10:26 PM
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| 83. Google search for troopergate spitzer clinton obama has you on the front page! |
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I think you may well be the first to catch this!
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Terri S
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Sun May-11-08 10:39 PM
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| 84. Change you can't even xerox right! |
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Jeez, will someone please put that campaign out of its misery! I can't wait to hear them spin this one.
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Sun May-11-08 10:41 PM
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| 88. Berni your now posted in a diary at Kos_ nice set of eyes there Berni. |
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Sun May-11-08 11:17 PM
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| 100. there's an insightful comment over there going over the skips and gaps |
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by iampunha on Sun May 11, 2008 at 08:12:26 PM PDT
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berni_mccoy
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Sun May-11-08 11:34 PM
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| 107. LOL Someone posted this Gem: "I guess it's hard to photoshop under sniper fire." |
skyounkin
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Mon May-12-08 12:13 AM
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| 112. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHH- HAHAA- HAHHAHH |
Lady-Damai
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Mon May-12-08 04:16 AM
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| 134. Ahahahahahahahahahaha! n/t |
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Mon May-12-08 11:54 AM
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