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OH THIS IS RICH! Latest Clinton Ad Uses Newspaper Clipping on TROOPERGATE!

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OH THIS IS RICH! Latest Clinton Ad Uses Newspaper Clipping on TROOPERGATE!
Edited on Sun May-11-08 09:34 PM by berni_mccoy
They couldn't actually find a newspaper clipping that was titled what they wanted ("Obama Attacks Clinton gas tax plan"), so they made one up... but they attached the headline to a Troopergate article! LOL!

Here is a screen capture from the downloaded hi-res copy from Clinton's website:


I noticed because I wanted to read the article and several words/phrases were quite readable. Then I saw it: "Troopergate" not once, but twice, sticking out like a sore thumb! Then I could read several other phrases:
"had notarized a written statement signed by the governor's former communications director.. whether he has a private attorney to represent him in the Troopergate scandal."

" 'It is their job to do what they do'... said of investigators. 'It is my job to cooperate, which is exactly what I have done. I have answered all the questions over and over.'"

See for yourself. Here is a link to the ad from Clinton's website: http://www.hillaryclinton.com/video/182.aspx


Note: For those not familiar with Troopergate, see Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troopergate

Here is the summary:
Troopergate is the popular name of an alleged scandal involving allegations by two Arkansas state troopers that they arranged sexual liaisons for then-governor Bill Clinton. The allegations by state troopers Larry Patterson and Roger Perry were first reported by David Brock in the American Spectator in 1993. The story mentioned a woman named Paula, a reference to Paula Jones.



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   some kind of false flag op?  Teaser   May-11-08 09:35 PM   #1 
   I have NO idea why the Clinton ad makers would do this. It's absolutely insane.  berni_mccoy   May-11-08 09:36 PM   #4 
   I hope someone in MSM calls her out on this  hokies4ever   May-12-08 01:37 AM   #126 
   This looks like a job for SUPER-OLBERMANN!! n/t  PoliticalAmazon   May-12-08 08:12 PM   #209 
   The Original Article is here  rust1d   May-12-08 06:50 AM   #140 
   yep, charlie picked that up downthread yesterday. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-12-08 10:24 AM   #164 
   Mort Sahl said something interesting on KO the other night....  PoliticalAmazon   May-12-08 08:19 PM   #211 
   Seems false-flag all the way to me  VolcanoJen   May-11-08 10:40 PM   #85 
   Or maybe the grunts actually making the video ...  krkaufman   May-12-08 12:56 AM   #124 
   You found that? WOW! Whoever did that is going to get in big trouble. No way it was an accident.  MidwestTransplant   May-11-08 09:35 PM   #2 
   They must have some seriously stupid people working in their media department...  GarbagemanLB   May-11-08 09:36 PM   #3 
   it's like subliminal advertising FOR OBAMA!  cryingshame   May-11-08 09:38 PM   #6 
   OBAMA Smearing Clinton - not a surprise  papau   May-12-08 03:21 PM   #184 
      It's a CLINTON ad. Made by the CLINTON campaign.  cui bono   May-12-08 03:53 PM   #187 
      Being that confused about it, I wonder if he works on the Clinton Ad Team...  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 04:04 PM   #189 
         I figured I better reply to him/her since apparently the rest of DU has them on ignore.  cui bono   May-12-08 04:15 PM   #190 
      uh....what?  lakercub   May-12-08 05:34 PM   #195 
   Why do you assume it was a MISTAKE?  IanDB1   May-11-08 09:47 PM   #24 
      the whole team there has been fed up for along time_this is pay back from p'ssd off staffers.  caligirl   May-11-08 10:23 PM   #82 
         Good point. Pissed off staffers who are owed money.  MidwestTransplant   May-11-08 10:55 PM   #95 
         Bingo. It's kind of like spitting in your boss' coffee. She owes them.  Ian_rd   May-12-08 07:08 AM   #142 
         That's my thinking. Someone disgruntled or just annoyed. n/t  krkaufman   May-12-08 12:57 AM   #125 
   Yoiks  charlie   May-11-08 09:37 PM   # 
   DOESN'T EVERYONE SEE WHAT ELSE IT SAYS.  acquiesce4ever   May-12-08 03:59 AM   #132 
      ALSO. . .  acquiesce4ever   May-12-08 04:03 AM   #133 
      Nice catches. Including this text and the other one about Clinton's  suffragette   May-12-08 01:28 PM   #180 
      Yes, I've noticed that now. Several posters at Kos have noticed that as well as some  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 08:22 AM   #146 
      LOL!!! Here's a screen cap:  SallyMander   May-12-08 10:33 AM   #167 
      wth??  electron_blue   May-12-08 11:50 AM   #173 
   Just when you think  Andy823   May-11-08 09:37 PM   #5 
   Somebody must be disgruntled.  Frumious B   May-11-08 09:42 PM   #14 
      I don't know who did it, but imagine you are a black person working on her...  Heather MC   May-11-08 11:18 PM   #101 
         I find your post offensive.  Stephanie   May-12-08 12:34 AM   #119 
         I too find your comment offensive. You don't have to be black to be offended by Hillary's  mod mom   May-12-08 10:37 AM   #169 
   The only possible answer is that Hillary's own campaign staff is trying to sabotage her.  IanDB1   May-11-08 09:38 PM   #7 
   Absolutely insane. I've saved the QT of it, since they're sure to change it.  BlooInBloo   May-11-08 09:38 PM   #8 
   Yep, I've downloaded it as well. Definitely a keeper!  berni_mccoy   May-11-08 09:39 PM   #9 
   How did you save it in QT?.?.?  MagickMuffin   May-12-08 06:38 AM   #137 
   somebody didn't get paid...  stillcool47   May-11-08 09:40 PM   #10 
   They could have put that headline over some NASCAR results  powergirl   May-11-08 09:40 PM   #11 
   I f***ing hate you right now  KSinTX   May-12-08 12:27 AM   #117 
      LOL!  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 12:37 AM   #120 
   "I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message."  parasim   May-11-08 09:41 PM   #12 
   LOL! This is better than John McCain in the Fox logo! nt  PM7nj   May-11-08 09:41 PM   #13 
   Wow! How in the hell did that happen? Why? They are screwed up in that campaign. nt  AlinPA   May-11-08 09:42 PM   #15 
   please, someone send this to Olbermann  cryingshame   May-11-08 09:42 PM   #16 
   Fire up the emails  hnmnf   May-11-08 09:42 PM   #17 
   Jon Stewart,  zidzi   May-11-08 10:12 PM   #73 
   HA HA ......another example of how incompetent that campaign has been run n/t  kevinmc   May-11-08 09:43 PM   #18 
   Disgruntled worker.  Elrond HubbardDU Moderator   May-11-08 09:43 PM   #19 
   I thought this was complete BS....till I watched it. Ready from Day One- my ass  NightWatcher   May-11-08 09:45 PM   #20 
   How weird. The Clinton's continue to deceive. But why that article from Bill's past?  quantass   May-11-08 09:45 PM   #21 
   It's Spitzer's Troopergate scandal with Joe Bruno - still weird. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 10:05 PM   #61 
   At least paste the fake headline on an article ABOUT the gas tax!  gateley   May-11-08 10:42 PM   #89 
      charlie found the real article below - Troopergate made me think of Spitzer 1st  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 10:54 PM   #94 
      Even if its Bruno's gas tax proposal!  whistler162   May-12-08 12:22 AM   #115 
   That's where my mind went immediately on hearing "Troopergate" too.  Jackpine Radical   May-12-08 10:31 AM   #166 
   Is someone trying to demolish any chances, which are none  Ichingcarpenter   May-11-08 09:45 PM   #22 
   oh man that's funny...and weird...and sad all at the same time.  libnnc   May-11-08 09:46 PM   #23 
   Amazing! K & R  yourguide   May-11-08 09:47 PM   # 
   That's insane!!!!  mcctatas   May-11-08 09:47 PM   #25 
   There's no "how" here but believe it or not...  cui bono   May-12-08 04:00 PM   #188 
      ....  mcctatas   May-12-08 05:35 PM   #197 
   Proof  ProSense   May-11-08 09:47 PM   #26 
   Oh dear, if I hadn't seen that with my own eyes I never would have  No Surrender   May-11-08 09:48 PM   #27 
   Me too. I could not believe it at first.  berni_mccoy   May-11-08 09:50 PM   #32 
   Cripes  charlie   May-11-08 09:48 PM   #28 
   Nice find!  BlooInBloo   May-11-08 09:54 PM   #38 
   GReat find. How stupid to make up a fake newspaper article,  DemsUnited   May-11-08 09:55 PM   #39 
   it's not the sex scandal - it's Spitzer going after Bruno, his legislative nemesis. Still... nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 09:56 PM   #46 
      Thanks for the correction. That makes it a little less weird, I guess. Well maybe not.  DemsUnited   May-11-08 10:00 PM   #54 
         It's still weird given the Clintons' own Troopergate and sex scandals and lawsuits. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 10:03 PM   #59 
            Yes. ANYTHING would have been better copy under that headline.  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 12:07 AM   #111 
            Not to mention the mental link to NY and its pols  KSinTX   May-12-08 12:31 AM   #118 
   Thanks for the correction. That's EXACTLY the article. Good match-up!  berni_mccoy   May-11-08 09:55 PM   #40 
   You know what would be even cooler? Can anyone find the original newspaper article?  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 10:01 PM   #55 
   Haw!  charlie   May-11-08 10:03 PM   #58 
   That's even weirder!  stillcool47   May-11-08 09:56 PM   #45 
   So what if it is about Spitzer? If they went to the trouble to make up the headline,  gateley   May-11-08 10:41 PM   #87 
   "...a special piquancy..." LOVE it! nt  gateley   May-11-08 11:29 PM   #104 
   Oh my, you're right! Is this ad on air or just a web ad?  DemsUnited   May-11-08 09:48 PM   #29 
   Both on air and on web.  berni_mccoy   May-11-08 09:51 PM   #33 
      And a third time I say, Oh My. This is just bizarre.  DemsUnited   May-11-08 09:57 PM   #48 
   Let me see if I have this right.  merh   May-11-08 09:48 PM   #30 
   but is that Spitzer's Troopergate? It mentions Albany and Manhattan  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 09:49 PM   #31 
   actually, 2nd column looks like they patched over Spitzer's name (with zer) nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 09:53 PM   #36 
   It's definately from Spitzer. However, Clinton's cock initiated the "Troopergate" term  cryingshame   May-11-08 09:53 PM   #37 
   Oh drat...you are probably correct.  yourguide   May-11-08 09:59 PM   #52 
   Charlie, post 28 got it right: it's Spitzer's Troopergate, but still...considering Bill's TG....n/t  Garbo 2004   May-11-08 09:52 PM   #34 
   Will this primary season get any loonier?  WesDem   May-11-08 09:53 PM   #35 
   at this point, I'm almost glad Hillary is imploding. It's comic gold.  cryingshame   May-11-08 09:56 PM   #44 
   Wow ... just ... Wow.  NewHampshireDem   May-11-08 09:55 PM   #41 
   LOL!  berni_mccoy   May-11-08 09:57 PM   #47 
      Thanks for the LOL!  NewHampshireDem   May-11-08 10:04 PM   #60 
   OH....MY....GOD!!!  sktmax   May-11-08 09:55 PM   #42 
   With that minor mystery solved: So basically THERE IS NO SUCH HEADLINED ARTICLE....  BlooInBloo   May-11-08 09:55 PM   #43 
   Spitzer was a Clinton supporter and super delegate for her also  Ichingcarpenter   May-11-08 10:02 PM   #57 
   There actually is an AP article with that title...  No Surrender   May-11-08 10:07 PM   #63 
      You're right! Why in the world wouldn't they just use the original AP  DemsUnited   May-11-08 10:09 PM   #66 
      that;s my question too. It could've been a simple mistake.  slinkerwink   May-11-08 10:49 PM   #92 
      They can't use the original article  bluescribbler   May-12-08 10:13 AM   #161 
      So why'd they fake it??? (Good find!)  BlooInBloo   May-11-08 10:09 PM   #67 
      oh, that's another good find. thanks. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 10:09 PM   #68 
      I guess that "phony ideas" wouldn't look so great on TV, eh?  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 11:40 PM   #108 
         Righto. So they ditched "phoney ideas" for "Troopergate."  No Surrender   May-12-08 08:21 AM   #145 
   You. Cannot. Make. This. $hit. Up.  Tatiana   May-11-08 09:57 PM   #49 
   Go post that on KOS and post the link...  yourguide   May-11-08 09:58 PM   #50 
   Hey - Scandal you can Xerox! nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 09:58 PM   #51 
   LOL  Garbo 2004   May-11-08 10:00 PM   #53 
   Def NY troopergate...  yourguide   May-11-08 10:02 PM   #56 
   Someone got lazy...  TwoSparkles   May-11-08 10:06 PM   #62 
   don't layout programs have that fake Latin text to use to fill in  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 10:08 PM   #65 
      Lorem ipsum dolor! lolol! Haven't thought about Pagemaker in decades.  BlooInBloo   May-11-08 10:10 PM   #70 
         that's it! It's been so long since I took Latin  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 10:12 PM   #74 
            "dolor" ia pain or hurt, I believe, but that's all of those words I know...  BlooInBloo   May-11-08 10:16 PM   #79 
               oh, here's a whole website about it  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 10:19 PM   #80 
                  Awesome - Cicero! Heh - it's all good if it's in the interests of knowledge - thanks!  BlooInBloo   May-11-08 10:21 PM   #81 
   thats actually something to do with eliot spitzer i think  goletian   May-11-08 10:07 PM   #64 
   she`s ready on day one......god are these guys dumb  madrchsod   May-11-08 10:10 PM   #69 
   I wonder if they're as expensive as Mark Penn? maybe they couldn't afford to buy a copy of the paper  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 10:10 PM   #72 
   This is amazing...  arcos   May-11-08 10:10 PM   #71 
   GOV SPITZER, AIDES MUM ON PRIVATE LAWYER HIRE IN TROOPERGATE SCANDAL  goletian   May-11-08 10:14 PM   #75 
   yep, someone caught it upthread - and also that the headline is real , but pasted to the text! nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 10:16 PM   #78 
   Was NY Daily News the one that ran the "Toast" front page? Or was that NY Post? nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 10:15 PM   #76 
   The Post  lisa58   May-11-08 10:40 PM   #86 
      thanks - I'm sure all the NY papers will be on it now that it's here and on blogs mentioned below nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 10:45 PM   #90 
   Great catch. I would have never noticed that fine print.  IsItJustMe   May-11-08 10:15 PM   #77 
   Google search for troopergate spitzer clinton obama has you on the front page!  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 10:26 PM   #83 
   Change you can't even xerox right!  Terri S   May-11-08 10:39 PM   #84 
   Berni your now posted in a diary at Kos_ nice set of eyes there Berni.  caligirl   May-11-08 10:41 PM   #88 
   there's an insightful comment over there going over the skips and gaps  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 11:17 PM   #100 
      LOL Someone posted this Gem: "I guess it's hard to photoshop under sniper fire."  berni_mccoy   May-11-08 11:34 PM   #107 
         BWAHAHAHAHAHAHH- HAHAA- HAHHAHH  skyounkin   May-12-08 12:13 AM   #112 
         Ahahahahahahahahahaha! n/t  Lady-Damai   May-12-08 04:16 AM   #134 
         Incoming! ROFL!  jazzjunkysue   May-12-08 11:54 AM   #174 
   Big K & R !!!  WillyT   May-11-08 10:47 PM   # 
   "Obama attacks Clinton's gas tax plan"  dchill   May-11-08 10:47 PM   #91 
   ...  bigbrother05   May-11-08 10:50 PM   #93 
   K&R. This is so freaking bizarre. I want to know the story behind the story...  JBoy   May-11-08 11:02 PM   #96 
   Bernie climbs the wall for a great  grantcart   May-11-08 11:10 PM   #97 
   ROFLMAO! Thanks Grant!  berni_mccoy   May-11-08 11:31 PM   #105 
   "I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message." is gonna sting.  Frustratedlady   May-11-08 11:11 PM   #98 
   I'm guessing Spitzer's name would have jumped right out under the headline  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-11-08 11:15 PM   #99 
   man......this is too rich  slinkerwink   May-11-08 11:44 PM   #110 
   They also changed the first line  Ms. Toad   May-12-08 09:06 AM   #152 
      So then...  FatDave   May-12-08 10:39 AM   #170 
         Don't know about that - but a long list of changes  Ms. Toad   May-12-08 06:15 PM   #204 
   If I were Hillary, I wouldn't pay for the production work  LiberalAndProud   May-11-08 11:23 PM   #102 
   She won't pay for it  bluescribbler   May-12-08 10:19 AM   #163 
   Good eyes, berni!  phrigndumass   May-11-08 11:25 PM   #103 
   Thanks phrign! I appreciate all the hard work you've been doing too!  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 12:17 AM   #113 
   Good catch.  Scurrilous   May-11-08 11:32 PM   #106 
   If I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't have believed it  mikiturner   May-11-08 11:41 PM   #109 
   "Disgruntled employee" k*r  autorank   May-12-08 12:20 AM   #114 
   Several posters on Kos have noted  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 12:26 AM   #116 
      failed to give proper credit(attribution as per copyright)NYDaily News  caligirl   May-12-08 02:21 AM   #127 
      They could. I don't know why... it's self inflicted damage at this point.  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 08:24 AM   #147 
      That's interesting  autorank   May-12-08 02:30 AM   #128 
   On the list of most bizarre shit I've ever seen, this is up there.  Bleachers7   May-12-08 12:39 AM   #121 
   Yes, indeed.  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 12:43 AM   #122 
   These people are stupid. I would have never believed she would run such a bastardized campaign  redstate_democrat   May-12-08 12:56 AM   #123 
   How does one email Chuck Todd and KO about this story..they will have it on the news tomorrow!  quantass   May-12-08 02:30 AM   #129 
   Why do  Gilligan   May-12-08 02:36 AM   #130 
   Has anyone emailed: Cafferty, Dan Abrams, KO, Jon Stewart, Colbert and others yet? Hope so!  quantass   May-12-08 02:48 AM   #131 
   WTF?  Prophet 451   May-12-08 05:23 AM   #135 
   it's actually Spitzer's Troopergate, but that just adds another level of bizarre. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-12-08 10:26 AM   #165 
   Self-deleted  jordi_fanclub   May-12-08 05:40 AM   #136 
   Ha!  blogslut   May-12-08 06:40 AM   #138 
   So what?  MJJP21   May-12-08 06:45 AM   #139 
   Um. It's a T.V. ad to boot. And, the text is quite visible in HD.  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 08:02 AM   #143 
   URGENT: Read "Blinded by the Right," by David Brock. Brock wrote the Troopergate story.  Perry Logan   May-12-08 06:57 AM   #141 
   Sorry Perry;  greiner3   May-12-08 08:26 AM   #148 
   No one is saying Troopergate is valid. You are missing the point of the post.  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 08:26 AM   #149 
   Not the same "troopergate"  Teaser   May-12-08 09:39 AM   #156 
   Sorry Perry, but history now shows how plausible Troopergate was  Grinchie   May-12-08 03:00 PM   #182 
   This is what happens when you stop paying Karl Rove's fees: The Elves  jazzjunkysue   May-12-08 08:13 AM   #144 
   SWEET!  Vote4Change   May-12-08 08:48 AM   #150 
   Last time I fell into the "white n*****" thing without thinking... so are there any  HereSince1628   May-12-08 08:56 AM   #151 
   It's pretty much assured that this came from team Clinton. Both her hi-res version  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 09:10 AM   #153 
      Amazingly strange that it got all the way to their website.  HereSince1628   May-12-08 09:22 AM   #154 
         Ready On Day One... NOT. Thoroughly Vetted... NOT.  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 09:26 AM   #155 
   the phrase "you're doing a heck of a job, Brownie" comes to mind  WillYourVoteBCounted   May-12-08 09:56 AM   #157 
   I think you mean, "You're doing a heck of a job, Bernie".  King Coal   May-12-08 03:40 PM   #186 
   Politico has now picked up the story.  jefferson_dem   May-12-08 09:58 AM   #158 
   It's got legs!  jazzjunkysue   May-12-08 12:01 PM   #175 
   Thanks jefferson_dem. Ben's Title: Subliminnable. *snicker*  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 12:17 PM   #176 
   hee hee LOL that IS funny  WillYourVoteBCounted   May-12-08 09:58 AM   #159 
   This is fucking funny...  snooper2   May-12-08 10:06 AM   #160 
   Obviously someone in her campaign wants all this to end...  mystieus   May-12-08 10:17 AM   #162 
   If you are a Digg member, digg this up...  Bleachers7   May-12-08 10:35 AM   #168 
   Ironically , the troopers confessed that they lied about the whole thing...  WillyToad   May-12-08 10:45 AM   #171 
   It's a CLINTON ad. Made by the CLINTON campaign.  cui bono   May-12-08 04:18 PM   #191 
   It was the Hillary slime machine  lakercub   May-12-08 06:13 PM   #203 
   Nice work, Berni! This will go blogoglobal by mid-morning  Turn CO Blue   May-12-08 10:58 AM   #172 
   This is insane  SharonRB   May-12-08 12:27 PM   #177 
   Why? A colleague suggested to me that all scenes whether real or created depict  HereSince1628   May-12-08 12:39 PM   #178 
   Now on Google  sktmax   May-12-08 01:27 PM   #179 
   I was just about to google  mdmc   May-12-08 02:07 PM   #181 
   Currently #14 on Reddit  charlie   May-12-08 03:07 PM   #183 
   TransWorldNews has picked up the story...  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 03:34 PM   #185 
   If this got by her...  cui bono   May-12-08 04:30 PM   #192 
   Good question.  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 05:06 PM   #193 
   excellent point!  bambino   May-12-08 05:10 PM   #194 
   This post is even better after watching the SNL skit from the weekend.  cui bono   May-12-08 05:34 PM   #196 
   Bill Clinton is 50% of the reason I don't want Hillary in the White House...  Imagevision   May-12-08 05:44 PM   #198 
   sent to Huffpo!  npincus   May-12-08 05:46 PM   #199 
   It's been over 20 hours, and this video is STILL at her website.  Vickers   May-12-08 06:04 PM   #200 
   They may not yet know why their traffic is spiking or why this video is getting so much attention.  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 07:23 PM   #207 
   Too freakin bizarre! Good catch, Berni...  NorthernSpy   May-12-08 06:05 PM   #201 
   Great catch Berni  WIllo   May-12-08 06:09 PM   #202 
   LOL. True enough. I think I got taken off that list a while ago.  berni_mccoy   May-12-08 07:20 PM   #206 
   Hillary can't even run a competent campaign. And she wants to run the country? No thank you. n/t  invictus   May-12-08 06:17 PM   #205 
   Here's the original New York Daily News article.  Towlie   May-12-08 07:47 PM   #208 
   yes, it's up there many times now. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-13-08 12:06 AM   #212 
   Suicide By Newsprint (SBN)  Prisoner_Number_Six   May-12-08 08:15 PM   #210 
   So, what happened to this?  Terri S   May-13-08 07:19 AM   #213 
   What happened is the Election is Over. It doesn't matter anymore.  berni_mccoy   May-13-08 08:11 AM   #214 
   Why is this ad still up today?  electron_blue   May-13-08 12:19 PM   #215 
      Either they don't care or they don't know...  berni_mccoy   May-13-08 04:58 PM   #216 
 
Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:35 PM
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1. some kind of false flag op?
This doesn't make any sense....
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-11-08 09:36 PM
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4. I have NO idea why the Clinton ad makers would do this. It's absolutely insane.
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hokies4ever (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 01:37 AM
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126. I hope someone in MSM calls her out on this
This is utterly despicable. Is grossly misleading and Hillary's campaign should have their feet held to the fire a little bit for this one.
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 08:12 PM
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209. This looks like a job for SUPER-OLBERMANN!! n/t
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rust1d (82 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 06:50 AM
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140. The Original Article is here
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2007/12/18/200...

ALBANY - Gov. Spitzer and his aides won't tell New Yorkers whether he has a private attorney to represent him in the Troopergate scandal.

At a tense press conference at the state Capitol on Monday, Spitzer also refused to discuss the parallel probes by the Albany district attorney's office and the state Public Integrity Commission, insisting, "I have answered all these questions at length."

"Obviously, we are cooperating fully," he said.

"It is their job to do what they do," Spitzer said of investigators. "It is my job to cooperate, which is exactly what I have done. I have answered all the questions, over and over."

But Senate Investigations Committee Chairman George Winner (R-Elmira) said the governor was engaging in "more stonewalling" by refusing to tell the public whether he has retained a private attorney.

"This man is incapable of leveling with anyone," added Winner, whose committee has met stiff resistance from the administration on its subpoenas seeking e-mails and other documents relating to the effort by Spitzer aides to discredit Senate GOP leader Joe Bruno.

Spitzer did acknowledge, as reported in yesterday's Daily News, that his office received a new subpoena from Albany County District Attorney David Soares in the reopened investigation into the scandal.

Meanwhile, The News learned that the administration's chief counsel, David Nocenti, a witness in the Troopergate affair, has hired Albany lawyer Peter Moschetti, and another high-ranking Spitzer cabinet member, Sean Patrick Maloney, has retained Manhattan lawyer Bart Schwartz.

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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 10:24 AM
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164. yep, charlie picked that up downthread yesterday. nt
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 08:19 PM
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211. Mort Sahl said something interesting on KO the other night....
They were talking about figuring out why people do things (I think that was the context). Mort Sahl said:

(loose quote) "Well, sometimes you have to look at it another way. Bill Clinton makes all these gaffes on the campaign traal, and people ask, "He wants his wife to be president, why does he make so many blunders that hurt her chances?" What you have to do is step back and ask, is what I assume he really wants--is that REALLY what HE wants?"

When we open our minds to the possibility that what someon should be really wanting may not be what he really wants, Bill's blunders on the campaign trail start to make sense.

Using a tropergate article is such a blunder, and exactly one of th issues the Clintons DON'T want brought up.

So we ask ourselves, "Obviously the Clinton staffer who put up that article really wants Clinton to win. So why would they make such a bonehead mistake?" What we need to do is step back and ask ourselves, "WHatI assume the Clinton staffer really wants, is that REALLY what HE/SHE wants?

So if we throw aside the assumption and ask ourselves "Is what we think the staffer wants REALLY what HE/SHE wants, we can see that perhaps it isn't what the staffer wants. Perhaps this staffer wants the campaign over, and is nuding it along by an "oops" mistake.
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:40 PM
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85. Seems false-flag all the way to me
Damned interesting!!!
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krkaufman (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 12:56 AM
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124. Or maybe the grunts actually making the video ...
... are kinda tired of Hillary's campaign, too, and tried to slip one by.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:35 PM
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2. You found that? WOW! Whoever did that is going to get in big trouble. No way it was an accident.
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:36 PM
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3. They must have some seriously stupid people working in their media department...
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:38 PM
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6. it's like subliminal advertising FOR OBAMA!
:rofl:
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papau (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 03:21 PM
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184. OBAMA Smearing Clinton - not a surprise
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 03:53 PM
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187. It's a CLINTON ad. Made by the CLINTON campaign.
Edited on Mon May-12-08 03:54 PM by cui bono

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Do you hurt yourself much stretching that far?

:eyes:
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon May-12-08 04:04 PM
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189. Being that confused about it, I wonder if he works on the Clinton Ad Team...
:rofl:
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 04:15 PM
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190. I figured I better reply to him/her since apparently the rest of DU has them on ignore.
Edited on Mon May-12-08 04:16 PM by cui bono
;)

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lakercub Donating Member (464 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 05:34 PM
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195. uh....what?
Did you see which side actually produced the ad?
Wow...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:47 PM
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24. Why do you assume it was a MISTAKE?Updated at 5:48 PM
The video every SuperDelegate should see
by John Aravosis (DC) · 5/07/2008 08:20:00 PM ET · Link
Discuss this post here: Make a comment · reddit · FARK · Digg It!

CBS News tonight was brutal to Hillary. It compiled a bunch of the press coverage - again, brutal. Worst of all, they quote one of Hillary's own top strategists who says he told her (and then told the media he told her - nice) "you can't win this nomination." I think this last point is the most significant. Hillary's own senior staff is leaking information to the media to sabotage her campaign. That's how bad things have gotten, that's how bad she has gotten. It's yet another sign that she needs an intervention, fast.

More:
http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/video-every-superdel...
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caligirl (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:23 PM
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82. the whole team there has been fed up for along time_this is pay back from p'ssd off staffers.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:55 PM
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95. Good point. Pissed off staffers who are owed money.
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Ian_rd (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 07:08 AM
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142. Bingo. It's kind of like spitting in your boss' coffee. She owes them.
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krkaufman (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 12:57 AM
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125. That's my thinking. Someone disgruntled or just annoyed. n/t
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:37 PM
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Yoiks
Somebody is SO gonna be fired. What a botch.

(Just means they'll get a week or two head start over everyone else in their job search)
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acquiesce4ever (4 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 03:59 AM
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132. DOESN'T EVERYONE SEE WHAT ELSE IT SAYS.
...above the article, it says "Clinton aides admit it won't do much for you but would help her politically"

I've done some video editing and I know how deliverate everything is. There is no way any video editor would put in the troopergate article on accident, so i figured there were other pro-Obama parts to the Ad.
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acquiesce4ever (4 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 04:03 AM
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133. ALSO. . .
It says "The Obama Plan: Tax Oil Companies" and "Invest In (then gets cut off by article)". We have ourselves not just an anti-clinton video editor, but a pro-Obama video editor!
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 01:28 PM
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180. Nice catches. Including this text and the other one about Clinton's
aides comments completely undercuts her own points.
The Troopergate cut and paste is the coup de grâce.

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon May-12-08 08:22 AM
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146. Yes, I've noticed that now. Several posters at Kos have noticed that as well as some
in this thread. I can no longer edit the original entry here (rules of posting threads here).
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 10:33 AM
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167. LOL!!! Here's a screen cap:

:rofl:

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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 11:50 AM
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173. wth??
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Andy823 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:37 PM
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5. Just when you think
They can't get any crazier, they show us they can! :crazy:
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Frumious B (281 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:42 PM
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14. Somebody must be disgruntled.
Maybe he/she sees the campaign going down the tubes, the debt piled up and suspects that he/she might have a hard time cashing that next paycheck if it actually ever comes and slipped that graphic in as sort of a middle finger to the campaign.
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Heather MC (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 11:18 PM
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101. I don't know who did it, but imagine you are a black person working on her...
campaign and you find out that she said "hard working white americans...."
Also her campaign is set up in Wash DC, DC is 90% Black, and big time Obama supporters
I am thinking some of her team may have jumped ship. tisk tisk tisk
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon May-12-08 12:34 AM
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119. I find your post offensive.
Her staff are doing the best job they can, under tryng circumstances, and regardless of race.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon May-12-08 10:37 AM
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169. I too find your comment offensive. You don't have to be black to be offended by Hillary's
comment. I was deeply offended by it
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:38 PM
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7. The only possible answer is that Hillary's own campaign staff is trying to sabotage her.Updated at 5:48 PM
Or maybe someone from their advertising firm.

Or both.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:38 PM
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8. Absolutely insane. I've saved the QT of it, since they're sure to change it.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-11-08 09:39 PM
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9. Yep, I've downloaded it as well. Definitely a keeper!
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 06:38 AM
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137. How did you save it in QT?.?.?
Edited on Mon May-12-08 07:05 AM by MagickMuffin

EDIT:...........I JUST FOUND THE QT LINK :dunce:




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stillcool (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:40 PM
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10. somebody didn't get paid...
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powergirl (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:40 PM
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11. They could have put that headline over some NASCAR results
or something. Seriously, we can't have these folks at the Whitehouse. Are they going to print out treaties on the back of the Comics section???
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KSinTX (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 12:27 AM
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117. I f***ing hate you right now
:rofl: True spewage alert. Thanks - Best of Thread
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon May-12-08 12:37 AM
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120. LOL!
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parasim (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:41 PM
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12. "I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message."
Really? She approved that? Wow.

Amazing find there. Is that running on television yet?

amazing...
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PM7nj (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:41 PM
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13. LOL! This is better than John McCain in the Fox logo! nt
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:42 PM
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15. Wow! How in the hell did that happen? Why? They are screwed up in that campaign. nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:42 PM
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16. please, someone send this to Olbermann
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:42 PM
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17. Fire up the emails
KO, Dan Abrams, Jack Cafferty
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-11-08 10:12 PM
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73. Jon Stewart,
Stephen Colbert.
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kevinmc (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:43 PM
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18. HA HA ......another example of how incompetent that campaign has been run n/t
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Danger Mouse DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:43 PM
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19. Disgruntled worker.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:45 PM
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20. I thought this was complete BS....till I watched it. Ready from Day One- my ass
somebody please tell me that this info got sent to Keith, Randi or any other newsies that could have us laughing all day long
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quantass (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:45 PM
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21. How weird. The Clinton's continue to deceive. But why that article from Bill's past?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:05 PM
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61. It's Spitzer's Troopergate scandal with Joe Bruno - still weird. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:42 PM
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89. At least paste the fake headline on an article ABOUT the gas tax!
Edited on Sun May-11-08 10:44 PM by gateley
Pretty shoddy.

Good catch, JIOOU!

EDIT to add that it may not be an intentional slam against Bill/The Clintons, but it's still embarrassingly STUPID.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:54 PM
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94. charlie found the real article below - Troopergate made me think of Spitzer 1st
since I'm in NY and that was just last year.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 12:22 AM
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115. Even if its Bruno's gas tax proposal!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 10:31 AM
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166. That's where my mind went immediately on hearing "Troopergate" too.
Followed immediately by "WTF??"
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-11-08 09:45 PM
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22. Is someone trying to demolish any chances, which are none
From the inside of her campaign??

This is unreal....... Wow!
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libnnc (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:46 PM
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23. oh man that's funny...and weird...and sad all at the same time.
Edited on Sun May-11-08 09:46 PM by libnnc
:wow:
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:47 PM
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Amazing! K & R
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:47 PM
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25. That's insane!!!!
I wonder how they will turn this into Obama's fault ;)
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 04:00 PM
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188. There's no "how" here but believe it or not...
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 05:35 PM
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197. ....
:spray: I knew it wouldn't be long ;)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:47 PM
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26. Proof
one of the worst campaigns ever. I thought the non-existent gun was bad.

Yikes!

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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:48 PM
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27. Oh dear, if I hadn't seen that with my own eyes I never would have
believed it.

:wtf:

Great catch! :toast:
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-11-08 09:50 PM
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32. Me too. I could not believe it at first.
Thanks.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:48 PM
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28. Cripes
It's an article on Eliot Spitzer!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2007/12/18/200...

Looks like someone grabbed the first text at hand and pasted it in. And was too dumb to realize that "Troopergate" takes on a special piquancy when applied to a Clinton. Whatta maroon.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:54 PM
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38. Nice find!
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DemsUnited (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:55 PM
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39. GReat find. How stupid to make up a fake newspaper article,
but to use an Eliot Spitzer sex scandal article, criminally stupid.

And to use an Eliot Spitzer sex scandal article with the words Troopergate in it not once but twice, well that's just weird, crazy, and kind of sad.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:56 PM
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46. it's not the sex scandal - it's Spitzer going after Bruno, his legislative nemesis. Still... nt
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DemsUnited (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:00 PM
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54. Thanks for the correction. That makes it a little less weird, I guess. Well maybe not.
No. It's still just mind-boggling.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:03 PM
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59. It's still weird given the Clintons' own Troopergate and sex scandals and lawsuits. nt
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon May-12-08 12:07 AM
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111. Yes. ANYTHING would have been better copy under that headline.
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KSinTX (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 12:31 AM
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118. Not to mention the mental link to NY and its pols
Dang, that's just sad all around :(
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-11-08 09:55 PM
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40. Thanks for the correction. That's EXACTLY the article. Good match-up!
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:01 PM
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55. You know what would be even cooler? Can anyone find the original newspaper article?
They've clearly done some weird editing or folding of the original. Is there a website where you can find a .pdf or image of the original page? Or anyone at a library with it on file? It's only 5 months old, might be around somewhere?




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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:03 PM
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58. Haw!
You're the one with the eagle eye, bernie. Thanks for the chuckle!

If you put this on your journal and submit it to Digg, it'll be front page in no time. They eat stuff like this up. And there's a dearth of Hillary fans over there.
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stillcool (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:56 PM
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45. That's even weirder!
Edited on Sun May-11-08 09:59 PM by stillcool47
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:41 PM
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87. So what if it is about Spitzer? If they went to the trouble to make up the headline,
why not just paste it over an article at least dealing with the gas tax subject?

It's another indication that her campaign isn't as sharp as it should be.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 11:29 PM
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104. "...a special piquancy..." LOVE it! nt
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DemsUnited (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:48 PM
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29. Oh my, you're right! Is this ad on air or just a web ad?
This is weird, weird, weird!!!

And really obvious once you point it out. Was it hacked? I just can't imagine Clinton people doing this deliberately or even stupidly.

Again, oh my.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-11-08 09:51 PM
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33. Both on air and on web.
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DemsUnited (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:57 PM
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48. And a third time I say, Oh My. This is just bizarre.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:48 PM
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30. Let me see if I have this right.
Edited on Sun May-11-08 09:51 PM by merh
They took a newspaper article on troopergate and redacted the original headline to read "Obama attacks Clinton's gas tax plan" and used it in the ad for candidate Clinton?

Is that some odd subliminal message the ad folks were trying to get out there?

How will Hillary and her supporters try to blame this one on Obama?



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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:49 PM
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31. but is that Spitzer's Troopergate? It mentions Albany and Manhattan
Maybe they were trying to make it look like NY Times?

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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:53 PM
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36. actually, 2nd column looks like they patched over Spitzer's name (with zer) nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:53 PM
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37. It's definately from Spitzer. However, Clinton's cock initiated the "Troopergate" term
Edited on Sun May-11-08 09:54 PM by cryingshame
not the best association.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:59 PM
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52. Oh drat...you are probably correct.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:52 PM
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34. Charlie, post 28 got it right: it's Spitzer's Troopergate, but still...considering Bill's TG....n/t
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:53 PM
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35. Will this primary season get any loonier?
:D

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:56 PM
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44. at this point, I'm almost glad Hillary is imploding. It's comic gold.
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NewHampshireDem (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:55 PM
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41. Wow ... just ... Wow.
I did not believe it myself until I saw the video. Yes, there it is, about 1/3 of the way through.

I've said it before, and I hope I don't have to say it again, someone please make her stop while she still has a shred of dignity left.

On another note: I wonder how all those folks in the commercial feel about HRC now that they aren't getting their 30 pieces ... I mean, 30 dollars. Probably like this:

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-11-08 09:57 PM
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47. LOL!
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NewHampshireDem (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:04 PM
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60. Thanks for the LOL!
And I know that you and I are really a little sad about it too. She made people believe she was going to do it--hell the ad even says she'll 'fight' for it!--she made them believe it was important to do, and now that PA is past ... oops! Poof! Off to find the next pander.
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sktmax (147 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:55 PM
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42. OH....MY....GOD!!!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:55 PM
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43. With that minor mystery solved: So basically THERE IS NO SUCH HEADLINED ARTICLE....
The Clinton campaign is fabricating. And in a way that really makes them look stupid.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-11-08 10:02 PM
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57. Spitzer was a Clinton supporter and super delegate for her also
The staff on the Clinton campaign must be tired, discouraged or just
wanting to self destruct.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:07 PM
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63. There actually is an AP article with that title...
...making the whole thing even odder.

Obama attacks Clinton's gas tax plan

By DAVID ESPO and BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writers Sat May 3, 4:36 PM ET

INDIANAPOLIS - Broadening his attack, Barack Obama said Saturday that Hillary Rodham Clinton's support for a summertime break from the federal gasoline tax symbolizes a candidacy consisting of "phony ideas, calculated to win elections instead of actually solving problems."

Not so, the former first lady told a campaign audience as the next round of primaries approached. Obama is "attacking my plan to try to get you some kind of break this summer," she said.

Locked in a Democratic presidential race for the ages, Clinton and Obama campaigned across Indiana and North Carolina at the same time they competed in Guam's caucuses and added to their convention delegate totals in several states.

In all, four delegates were at stake in Guam half a world away from the U.S. mainland. But given the closeness of the race, both candidates made an effort to win.

more... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080503/ap_on_el_pr/democra...
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DemsUnited (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:09 PM
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66. You're right! Why in the world wouldn't they just use the original AP
article??
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:49 PM
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92. that;s my question too. It could've been a simple mistake.
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bluescribbler Donating Member (834 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 10:13 AM
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161. They can't use the original article
These words, Hillary Rodham Clinton's support for a summertime break from the federal gasoline tax symbolizes a candidacy consisting of "phony ideas, calculated to win elections instead of actually solving problems."
won't do Clinton any favors. Voters might actually find some validity in that idea. :shrug:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:09 PM
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67. So why'd they fake it??? (Good find!)
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:09 PM
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68. oh, that's another good find. thanks. nt
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 11:40 PM
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108. I guess that "phony ideas" wouldn't look so great on TV, eh?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 08:21 AM
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145. Righto. So they ditched "phoney ideas" for "Troopergate."
Who did it and why...wonder if we'll find out.
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Tatiana (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:57 PM
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49. You. Cannot. Make. This. $hit. Up.
Interesting find, berni...
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:58 PM
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50. Go post that on KOS and post the link...
This is great!
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 09:58 PM
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51. Hey - Scandal you can Xerox! nt
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:00 PM
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53. LOL
:spray:
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:02 PM
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56. Def NY troopergate...
references Sean Patrick Maloney
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:06 PM
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62. Someone got lazy...
I'm sure the orders were to make that look like a legitimate newspaper article.

So, they lifted the headline from a real article and pasted in their own.

Why on earth didn't this person just write a short article--which would take about 10 minutes, and use
a font that looks like newspaper copy?

Very, very bizarre!

The Spitzer story wasn't even in the headlines during the Indiana primary, so whomever did this had
to go back weeks for that Spitzer article. Really weird.

Makes you wonder if it wasn't deliberate.

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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:08 PM
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65. don't layout programs have that fake Latin text to use to fill in
"Ipsum dolor.." something or other.

had they left that, it would have been lazy, but easy to say, "oops, we sent the early layout draft by accident!"

Instead, it's a mangled/folded/slightly edited real article on a Spitzer scandal from 2007!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:10 PM
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70. Lorem ipsum dolor! lolol! Haven't thought about Pagemaker in decades.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:12 PM
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74. that's it! It's been so long since I took Latin
I can't remember the translation anymore. But yes, the person on our staff who drafts the newsletter layout uses one of those programs.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:16 PM
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79. "dolor" ia pain or hurt, I believe, but that's all of those words I know...
It's tough with Latin and Greek, because all of the declensions can make cognates look like anything but.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:19 PM
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80. oh, here's a whole website about it
http://www.lipsum.com /

Whoops, aren't we off-topic!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:21 PM
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81. Awesome - Cicero! Heh - it's all good if it's in the interests of knowledge - thanks!
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goletian (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:07 PM
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64. thats actually something to do with eliot spitzer i think
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:10 PM
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69. she`s ready on day one......god are these guys dumb
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:10 PM
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72. I wonder if they're as expensive as Mark Penn? maybe they couldn't afford to buy a copy of the paper
Edited on Sun May-11-08 10:11 PM by JoeIsOneOfUs
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arcos (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:10 PM
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71. This is amazing...
:rofl:
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goletian (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:14 PM
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75. GOV SPITZER, AIDES MUM ON PRIVATE LAWYER HIRE IN TROOPERGATE SCANDAL
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2007/12/18/200...

ALBANY - Gov. Spitzer and his aides won't tell New Yorkers whether he has a private attorney to represent him in the Troopergate scandal.

At a tense press conference at the state Capitol on Monday, Spitzer also refused to discuss the parallel probes by the Albany district attorney's office and the state Public Integrity Commission, insisting, "I have answered all these questions at length."

"Obviously, we are cooperating fully," he said.

"It is their job to do what they do," Spitzer said of investigators. "It is my job to cooperate, which is exactly what I have done. I have answered all the questions, over and over."

But Senate Investigations Committee Chairman George Winner (R-Elmira) said the governor was engaging in "more stonewalling" by refusing to tell the public whether he has retained a private attorney.

"This man is incapable of leveling with anyone," added Winner, whose committee has met stiff resistance from the administration on its subpoenas seeking e-mails and other documents relating to the effort by Spitzer aides to discredit Senate GOP leader Joe Bruno.

Spitzer did acknowledge, as reported in yesterday's Daily News, that his office received a new subpoena from Albany County District Attorney David Soares in the reopened investigation into the scandal.

Meanwhile, The News learned that the administration's chief counsel, David Nocenti, a witness in the Troopergate affair, has hired Albany lawyer Peter Moschetti, and another high-ranking Spitzer cabinet member, Sean Patrick Maloney, has retained Manhattan lawyer Bart Schwartz.

Nocenti had notarized a written statement signed by Darren Dopp, the governor's former communications director. Sources say Soares is trying to determine if Dopp has made false statements.

Spitzer, a former criminal prosecutor, balked at releasing a copy of the subpoena that Soares directed to his administration, saying, "I'm not sure what the rules are with respect to that."

Asked why Spitzer refuses to say whether he has a lawyer, the governor's spokesman, Errol Cockfield, said, "It would be inappropriate to comment while there are ongoing investigations."
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:16 PM
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78. yep, someone caught it upthread - and also that the headline is real , but pasted to the text! nt
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:15 PM
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76. Was NY Daily News the one that ran the "Toast" front page? Or was that NY Post? nt
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-11-08 10:40 PM
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86. The Post
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:45 PM
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90. thanks - I'm sure all the NY papers will be on it now that it's here and on blogs mentioned below nt
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:15 PM
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77. Great catch. I would have never noticed that fine print.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:26 PM
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83. Google search for troopergate spitzer clinton obama has you on the front page!
I think you may well be the first to catch this!
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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:39 PM
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84. Change you can't even xerox right!
Jeez, will someone please put that campaign out of its misery! I can't wait to hear them spin this one.

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caligirl (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 10:41 PM
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88. Berni your now posted in a diary at Kos_ nice set of eyes there Berni.
Edited on Sun May-11-08 10:42 PM by caligirl
And good work too. does the Clinton team seem dysfunctional or just unpaid.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/11/22738/6747/648/...
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May-11-08 11:17 PM
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100. there's an insightful comment over there going over the skips and gaps
by iampunha on Sun May 11, 2008 at 08:12:26 PM PDT
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun May-11-08 11:34 PM
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107. LOL Someone posted this Gem: "I guess it's hard to photoshop under sniper fire."
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skyounkin (462 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 12:13 AM
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112. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHH- HAHAA- HAHHAHH
n/t........LMAO
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Lady-Damai (756 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 04:16 AM
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134. Ahahahahahahahahahaha! n/t
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-12-08 11:54 AM
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174.&nbs