Take a Look at Hillary's Sad Little Powerpoint for the Supers (slides inside)

[Stephanie]

Can you believe this? For the first time in this entire campaign I almost feel sorry for her. This is pathetic.





















Source: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/hrc-tough-districts/?resultpage=1&

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/hillary_campaign_emails_out_el.php

Stepping up its efforts to push her case with super-dels and party leaders, the Hillary campaign is emailing out a Power-Point presentation to all Dems in the House touting her electability and her ability to carry tough swing districts.

More discussion here>
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5904363&mesg_id=5904363

[babylonsister]

1. Very convincing-NOT! And this is her weapon to win over SDs?

Oy.

[Leopolds Ghost]

48. Hillary did it all wrong. Her Powerpoint slides should have looked like THIS:

Tanzschule Buck

Click on the link, I dare you... I double dog dare you.

I would have read it all the way through, too.

[Leopolds Ghost]

49. Tanzschule Buck

"Gott in Himmel. Ve haf ways of making you click!"

http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/dance.html

I actually love it. I want to make my website animate like this.

[VolcanoJen]

51. I think I just had a seizure.

Vielen Dank! }(

[Leopolds Ghost]

54. Did you click on the bouncing red and yellow link to go to the dancing purple menu?

With the rotating vertical text receding into and out of the horizon?

See, that is why I think this is the best site on the web!!!

I am just a confrontational, anti-conformity person.

[BlooInBloo]

58. That's pretty fucking sexy. Here's my all time fav flash site:

I used to play with this for days trying to figure it all out.

http://snarg.net

[Leopolds Ghost]

60. Here's one that's pretty cool.

http://www.casiology.com/

See, Hillary would get more support if she made her product look like these sites.

Viral marketing. You have to follow the clues to get past the onscreen animation and get to the "real" site!

That way, people can feel like they got something out of it when they finally reach the "donate money" page.

"No, that's ELITIST!" she would probably scream.

[BlooInBloo]

61. Yup - that is cool.

[Leopolds Ghost]

63. Is it? Argh! they got rid of it!

Another mystery meat / flash puzzle website beats the dust.

Or maybe it's just my old computer. It redirects me to disappointingly Hillaryesque corporate site.

[ingac70]

2. I don't feel sorry for her.

Racist skank.

[cliffordu]

45. LOL I haven't heard anyone called that since 1968...

:rofl: :rofl:

[VolcanoJen]

52. Really? I have.

I think in 1988 or something. I remember someone named "Bush" and something about some "Willie Horton" character. :-)

[Cali_Democrat]

3. The Powerpoint slides look like they were put together in about 10 minutes

:rofl:

[NYCGirl]

5. Hey! She's probably paying good money for those...

eh, or owing good money for those.

[Stephanie]

6. By a ten year old.

[Whisp]

7. no kidding - how unprofessional

but then so is she.

[BattyDem]

13. They're really bad, aren't they?

She should have lent herself a few more bucks and had a professional do them.

[Stephanie]

17. Maybe she outsourced it to India?

She should have paid extra for the proofreader.

[PoliticalAmazon]

53. She's lucky her incompetent campaign staff didn't send out the "Make Money Outsourcing to India" ...

PowerPoint of Hillary's.

I hope little things like this are maybe nudging some Hillary supporters towards Obama. Clearly, Hillary's total focus on this race is division by races/age/gender. There was nothing unifying there, nothing as to WHY she should be president.

Patience. Patience. Patience. (It's my new mantra and it helps if I write it once in awhile)

[powergirl]

4. Did they get an intern to whip that up?

There are grammatical errors and it is a very low end/lame PP presentation. My 13 year old could do a better job. And moreover, the primary election does not portend success in the GE. But I guess that doesnt matter.

[JBoy]

14. You're not seeing the animation.

I'm sure she's got all kinds of cool fly-in, fade-out text, and spinny graphic entries. Probably looks kick-ass in presentation mode.

[Stephanie]

19. You're joking, right?

:rofl:

[proud2BlibKansan]

32. Surely there is sniper fire going on as well

[Berry Cool]

36. Where are the grammatical errors?

I think it's pretty desperate myself, but I couldn't find any grammatical errors. Sometimes you can't see all the texts on animated slides when they're shown as stills.

[TexasObserver]

8. You know not one congressperson read that thing.

She got about 20 people who reaffirmed their loyalty and several times that many who didn't return her RSVP.

[Zachstar]

9. A 10 min effort powerpoint?

Small space companies can do better!

[Joe the Revelator]

10. Its like a 6th grader put it together. I wonder if it chimes when you change the screen.

[roseBudd]

11. um, she does realize that rural voters are less numerous, doesn't she?

[BattyDem]

12. Yeah, but can she win in the tough districts?

:eyes:

[Hawkeye-X]

15. She lost me after the 2nd slide.

Since her husband's election, how many Democratic seats have we lost since McAwful and the DLC? from '92 to '04 when Howard Dean finally took the chairmanship - I'd say quite a lot.

She failed.

[onenote]

16. as I pointed out elsewhere, if you accept the premise of the powerpoint

all it proves is that the Democratic house candidate in these tight districts will lose no matter who is nominated for president.

That's because the premise of the powerpoint is that the voters that preferred Hillary over Obama will stay home and not vote at all if Obama is the nominee, or will come out and not only vote for McCain, but also for the repub running for Congress.

But whats sauce for the goose, as they say.
If the HRC supporters won't come out if Obama's the nominee, then it must also follow that the Obama supporters won't come out if HRC is the nominee. And in these closely fought districts, if a substantial number of the 30 percent of the voters that preferred Obama sit on their hands, then the Democratic candidate for the house loses.

So,excuse me if I find this less than convincing.

[PoliticalAmazon]

55. I don't think many people find it convincing. I do think many people think...

...it is not a good reflection on Hillary or her campaign staff.

[bhikkhu]

18. Looks like a school project

Community college maybe, communications class. Solid "B" and a smiley.

[FlyingSquirrel]

20. Notice how she's Blue and Obama's Red

in the pie charts and bar graphs. Subtle. I think I may be mildly offended

:rofl:

[Stephanie]

21. Add petty on top of ridiculous and incompetent.

WHAT were they THINKING? Maybe this is why Hill Dems declined her dinner invitation Weds night - they might have heard this slideshow was on the agenda.

[JBoy]

22. Her summary slide should have looked like this:

Hillary help you win your tough district.

[Stephanie]

25. Seriously?

[JBoy]

27. No, I'm joking. Bean people are a crucial part of any lame presentation.

[Stephanie]

31. Aha!

[Berry Cool]

37. So are MIDI files that play "appropriate music" for each slide.

I had to sit through one of those at work once, assembled by someone's secretary. She just went bananas adding music to the thing. One slide would have the Rocky theme, another would have the Superman theme, etc. Ugh.

[Stephanie]

23. Where are the supporters to defend this project?

They're awfully quiet.

[bigtree]

29. *yawn*

Isn't there anything about your candidate you can think of promoting? This is a bore.

[Stephanie]

33. This is Hillary's final argument. Can't you get behind it?

She thinks this is her last best shot to take the nom away from Barack. Don't you?

[Arrowhead2k1]

24. Winning in the TOUGH districts!

:rofl:

[JackORoses]

26. That would get a failing grade in 6th grade Social Studies

How embarrassing.

[JBoy]

28. Her first pie chart should have had this explanation:

[proud2BlibKansan]

30. Looks like something a high school senior did in his computer class

:rofl:

[BklynChick]

34. that is pathetic

[Gore1FL]

35. wow... pictures overlapping text, poor layout excluded data

This wasn't ready for the first day so much.

[Berry Cool]

38. What you're seeing is a still version of what is probably an animated presentation.

When you see these in still form, it often looks as if the pictures overlap the text and the layout is messed up. But it's not. You just need to see it in motion to get the full effect.

I'm not saying this is good, particularly; it looks pretty desperate. But there's a reason the pictures overlap or obscure some of the text, and it's not because of amateurish composition.

[Stephanie]

39. That is just flatout incorrect

You're trying to imply that the jpegs were made while the PowerPoint was in animation? Try again. This is just flat-out incompetence. It's kind of shocking.

[Berry Cool]

68. No, actually I wasn't trying to imply any such thing. And you don't need to be insulting.

What I was saying is this: I've been given PPTs like this to proofread. (I don't design them, but I do sometimes proofread them.) And when they were printed out on hard copy, some of the images overlapped the text, and it was inevitably a situation in which the slides were animated. But it wasn't because the jpegs were made WHILE it was in animation.

If you want to call the designers I work with incompetent, that's your call, but there's no need to insult me into the bargain with that snide "Try again." I'm just trying to find a simple explanation for why some of this may look the way it does. I know it's a lot more fun to pile on Hillary's team because of all their various incompetencies than to try to point out one case in which they may not really have done anything so bad, but what the hell.

Also, again, I couldn't find any of the typos it's supposedly replete with, either.

[Gore1FL]

42. Good catch

thanks

[Plaid Adder]

40. OK, maybe someone can explain this to me...

Does Clinton's campaign not realize that winning over seniors, rural voters, 'hard working white voters,' etc. who are *already Democrats* is a completely different thing from winning over seniors, rural voters, 'hard working white voters,' etc. who are *not* Democrats? Or are they just banking on the SDs not realizing that?

I've never understood that aspect of her 'electability' argument. The fact that she polls well among Democrats in a certain demographic is no guarantee that she will poll that well in that demographic in the general election. Of course there is no guarantee that Obama will pull in those voters either, but still, it surprises me that nobody in her campaign appears to grasp the difference.

Ah well,

The Plaid Adder

[mudesi]

41. Wow. That's just awful. (nm)

[Elidor]

43. All the depth of Bush's rhetoric

The flop-sweat is evident even from a distance.

[cliffordu]

44. That's it. I OFFICIALLY HATE

Powerpoint. I loathed it earlier, but this is just middle management fake number porn....

[PoliticalAmazon]

56. I don't like PowerPoint either, although I do PPT presentations twice a week or more...

I'm Old School. I like overhead transparencies, where you can get a lot of focus points, a few graphs if necessary, on a sheet, not have to quit clicking, and it's easy to make compact notes for listeners to take notes. PPT printouts are awkward, clumsy, and ill-suited for taking notes.

Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to join your rant about PPT.

[cliffordu]

64. I knew a guy who had to do them for one of the bosses in

a city department where i worked - real dry stuff, grant outcomes, figures from HUD...he used to throw in ringer slides with absolutely bogus numbers and gibberish words just to see if anyone paid attention.....His mischief was discovered about 5% of the time, the rest of the time you could have been showing LOLcatz photos and no one would have cared.

[Leopolds Ghost]

46. I put together a better presentation the first and only time I used Powerpoint.

Got an A for it, too... "presented exactly the way a traffic consultant should." Made all the numbers come out sounding positive.

[JVS]

47. Holy Shit! Jlake got a job with the campaign!

[cliffordu]

65. Fock! That's perfect.

:rofl: :rofl:

[AtomicKitten]

50. Here's the way I look at it.

It's over. If she is intent on making an ass out of herself and in the process becoming a pariah to the party, I will consider it self-inflicted karmic justice for her ugly campaign.

[BlooInBloo]

57. And the campaign goes out, not with a bang, but with a powerpoint deck.

[Colobo]

59. Very poor effort indeed.

[Leopolds Ghost]

66. Let's not be too critical, it was probably done by a fresh-faced intern.

OK, on the other hand, I work in a community organization with some pretty strange cats, low-information voters to say the least, and I'd pull my hair out if they did something that look like this.

I predict construction paper and magic markers will be used for all official Clinton leaflets from now on.

[Stephanie]

67. No kidding.

That's about right. Do you think the staff has already been laid off so the interns had to put this together?

[lcdnumber6]

62. someone on Hill's team needs to read...

Tufte's "The Cognitive Style of Power Point" - stat!

http://www.amazon.com/Cognitive-Style-Power-Point/dp/0961392150