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jordi_fanclub Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:05 AM
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The usual pro-Clinton PATTERN in the worst-POLLSTER-of-the-day: SurveyUSA(IN) & InsiderAdvantage(NC)
Edited on Wed May-07-08 09:31 AM by jordi_fanclub
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SurveyUSA error: 10 points pro-Clinton in Indiana (survey=+12 vs. results=+2)



Link: (copy http://www. and add to) surveyusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/in-dem-primary-potus-050608.JPG



InsiderAdvantage: 12 points pro-Clinton in North Carolina (survey=+3 vs. results=+15)



Link: (copy http://www. and add to) surveyusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/nc-pollster-report-card-potus-050608.JPG
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:07 AM
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1. Insider Advantage ended up being the best in Indiana
I'd give PPP the best overall grade, because Zogby had Obama winning by two, which is still pretty much MOE. PPP had her up 51-46 and closing in Indiana, and up 53-43 in NC
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:51 AM
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4. You're right in that of those who had her winning IN, they were the closet
Edited on Wed May-07-08 10:06 AM by 4themind
Although zogby did well in terms of total point differential (+2) even though he had obama winning, depends how you want to look at it, and as mentioned before, they were pretty off in NC, while zogby was right on the money (maybe he's getting his mojo back finally, lol)
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:10 AM
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7. It Depends How You Look At It
Edited on Wed May-07-08 10:11 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
Is it more important to be within the MOE or pick the winner...

I remember sitting in a bar, probably before you were born, watching Larry Holmes and Ken Norton fightfor the heavyweight title... There was a "pot" with about $200.00 in it... You had to pick the winner and round...Most folks picked Holmes to stop Norton... I bet on Norton to win via decision...He lost via decision but I thought I came a lot closer than those who said he would lose via a KO or a TKO...But I did pick the loser...

But, yeah, Obama overperformed last night...
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jordi_fanclub Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:32 AM
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2. Updated
Updated with reduced images and reformated original links
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:47 AM
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3. Zogby seems to be doing well.. after the whole NH debacle..
They were within 1 in NC, and 4 in IN. You have to wonder where some of these people get their poll numbers from though - wow.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:59 AM
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5. Zogby was spot on in NC and had Obama up by 2 in Indiana but with 8% undecided
so well within the moe. So he did pretty well this time. Survey USA sucked on both Indiana and NC
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:04 AM
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6. One thing we know is that Obama's team had good internals; that is why he campaigned in IN so much
Some were wondering if he was ignoring NC too much. I guess his team knew what he was doing.
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