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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 09:56 AM
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Tulsa World - Bush leads in electoral college math?
Not in ANY analysis I've seen. Sorry, you only get the headline. It's a pay site. http://www.tulsaworld.com/
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 09:58 AM
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1. That's probably
the same AP article (I think it was AP). I saw it on MSNBC.

Worthless article. It hardly mentioned any recent trends.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 10:43 AM
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2. Tulsa World-- RW rag
from the "Oil Capital of the World"
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:19 AM
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3. Ya got that right! n/t
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 12:32 PM
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4. Read this earlier today
The article indicated there are 25 states in the "sure" category for Bush, and 14 for Kerry, giving Bush something like 214 e-votes versus 190 for Kerry. It said Kerry needs to take PA and OH out of the undecided column and into his. Ohio went to Bush in 2000. I find it disheartening that 1/2 of our states will still support Bush despite everything that he's done to this country.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:53 PM
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5. the problem with this AP article so widely run throughout
the country is that it's IPSOS data is limited and outdated regarding its state polling. For example, if IPSOS doesn't have a state poll it won't use another service but just flips back to 2000 results. Thus it has 25 states as "sure" Bush when actually only 16 are really that solid at this date. Very bad methodology.
But...hey, whatever.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:58 PM
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6. this is a more current map reflecting
up to date polling from a variety of (mostly legitimate) sources.
http://www.electoral-vote.com /

All polling should be taken with a grain or two of salt, of course, but trends can be spotted and margin of error needs to be figured in and some polls lean DEM or GOP depending on methodology. It is an inexact science but ... kinda fun.
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Dying Eagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 12:47 AM
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7. That map is looking good.
Lets hope it holds true in November.

Ohio, Missouri, Arizona, and Nevada looking blue.

And I still think we have a shot at Florida, Arkansas and Tennessee.

Whats up with Maine and Minnesota?? Not as strong as they should be.
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