Buchanan: "WAKE UP, America! A black man might become president!!! WAKE UP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!"

[EffieBlack]

He's blowing the dog whistle so hard, EVERYBODY can hear it. Hey, Pat - why don't you drop the code language and just come out and say what you really want to say: "Be AFRAID GOOD WHITE PEOPLE. This colored man is going to seize power and THEN we'll ALL be in trouble!!! You'd better WAKE UP and stop this before it's too late!!!"

Good Lord, the man is about to burst his spleen.

[livetohike]

1. He is so sickening - I don't know why they keep him employed

:-(

[ck4829]

2. Yeah, the white guy who is president right now is doing wonders for us, right Pat?

Coming from a white guy BTW.

[slor]

58. Did you ever hear what Charlie Rangel said?

that bush "pretty much debunks the myth of white superiority once and for all".

[clevbot]

61. omg thats hilarious

[ck4829]

73. LOL

[babylonsister]

3. He is hideous and racist; guess it works for them. nt

[my2sense]

4. Interesting

This idiot gets to be a news commentator.........but everyone's up in arms about statements Rev. Wright makes....SMDH.

[Leopolds Ghost]

83. "It's not just what he said, it's whe WAY he said it -- in a crazy black preacher accent!"

At least that is what the commentators tell me. Pat Buchanan doesn't have
a crazy black accent. He speaks in soothing, dulcet tones, like Hagee --

and ZELL MILLER!

There's no double standard in America, no, not a- tall.

[lisa58]

5. did this just happen? msnbc?

Pat's a crazy bigot - I've seen it many times.

[EffieBlack]

8. He didn't actually say those words - it's just implicit in everything he says . . .

[lisa58]

15. you don't have to explain, I've seen him do it many times.

[Capn Sunshine]

52. That's why they keep him on

The fear apparent in his facial expression is PRICELESS.

he's an old-line racist from way back. But he's also ascended to punditry Olympus on MSNBC, and is a guilty pleasure to watch; he's so over the top you could invent a drinking game based on his mannerisms.

We could probably partly thank Buchanan for his scary keynote speech at the republican Convention in '92 for putting Bill Clinton over the top.

"Many people did not care for Pat Buchanan's speech; it probably sounded better in the original German," Ivins in September 1992, commenting on the one-time presidential hopefuls speech to the Republican National Convention.

[Tribetime]

6. Why doesn't he do us a favor and leave/retire/get fired

[me b zola]

47. Better yet, I'd pay to see

'ol Pat have a Novakian drunken melt-down on air and storm off the set.

[ErinBerin84]

7. Pat Buchanan just admitted that the McCain/Bush thing

may be an "albatross" against the Republican neck, but then went out with his..."AND THAT'S WHY REPUBLICANS NEED TO SHOW THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT SURE THEY WANT 'THIS GUY' (Obama) RUNNING THE REPUBLIC!!" Sorry to write in caps, but that's really what Pat sounds like.

Richard Wolfe, Michelle Bernard, and Ed Shutlz just gave Pat (or the camera) death stares.

[stillcool]

11. He makes it so much worse .

when he screams...When my hubby watches Hardball I have to go in the other room and turn up the music, or I hear Pat's screech wafting through the walls. He's apoplectic. For health reasons he really needs to be put out to pasture where he can chew cud among the cow piles.

[ErinBerin84]

14. I've held back from saying this before, because I don't want to

sound ageist...but I always imagine what it would be like to work in a nursing home with Pat Buchanan as a patient, with him screaming at me all of the time.

[stillcool]

16. egads!

At least there is sedation.

[Lucky 13]

9. What was the context of those statements?

Surely not even the certifiably insane and bigoted Pat Buchanan would say such a thing on television.

Of course, every time I think this can't get any more vile, it does.

[EffieBlack]

10. He didn't actually say that

I'd better correct my post to make that clear -

[Lucky 13]

20. Ok. Don't make me go get my torch and pitchfork... cause I will.

If he ever said anything like that on air, I suggest he find a castle with a big moat cause us townsfolk are gonna be pissed.

[JimGinPA]

12. Just More "Swiftboatng By Watermelon"

That's what Chris Rock calls making sure he stays the "black candidate".

[SoCalDem]

30. '04=Swiftboating...'08= Watermeloning

I cannot believe how easily the racists have permeated the (so-called) mainstream media..and they don't even try to pretend anymore.. they must have a wink-wink-nod-nod okay from the higher-ups..

[DearAbby]

54. Making note to self...

:::whips out the invisible "ScoobyDoo Notebook":::

'04 = Swiftboating -- '08 = Watermelloning


tanks :hi:

[Maddy McCall]

13. So Buchanan didn't say it, but you said he did.

What a dishonest post.

[Cali_Democrat]

22. defending a well-known bigot?

shocker

:sarcasm:

I guess you are unfamiliar with the term 'dog whistle politics.'

[Dr Fate]

33. Defending racist language, tacitcs and racists themselves has become quite a pastime at DU for some.

Some of the talk at DU is sounding more like a Republican Frat-House or a redneck barber-shop every day.

Who would have thought that so-called progressives would stoop to all this Willie Horton type crap.

[JuniperLea]

36. I don't think she's defending him

I see this as making sure we're only talking in truthful terms. I think this is something we need to be careful of when we talk about Republicans OR Democrats.

Saying and inferring are two different things... you can fudge a lot whilst inferring.

I'll not judge until I hear it or read it for myself, but when you see others in this thread making a distinction that it was inferred, I prefer to err on the side of cautious non-judgement.

Oh, and PS... be careful when you name (call out) a fellow DUer in your post...

[HERVEPA]

50. That would be "implying", not "inferring"

But I agree with your position.

[JuniperLea]

53. Usage... see infer... ?

Main Entry: im·ply
Pronunciation: \im-ˈplī\
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): im·plied; im·ply·ing
Etymology: Middle English emplien, from Anglo-French emplier to entangle — more at employ
Date: 14th century
1obsolete : enfold, entwine
2: to involve or indicate by inference, association, or necessary consequence rather than by direct statement <rights imply obligations>
3: to contain potentially
4: to express indirectly <his silence implied consent>
synonyms see suggest
usage see infer

[HERVEPA]

57. It's more blurred than I imagined, however

"imply" is preferred for clarity.


Main Entry: in·fer
Pronunciation: \in-ˈfər\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): in·ferred; in·fer·ring
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French inferer, from Latin inferre, literally, to carry or bring into, from in- + ferre to carry — more at bear
Date: 1528
transitive verb
1: to derive as a conclusion from facts or premises <we see smoke and infer fire — L. A. White> — compare imply
2: guess, surmise <your letter…allows me to infer that you are as well as ever — O. W. Holmes died 1935>
3 a: to involve as a normal outcome of thought b: to point out : indicate <this doth infer the zeal I had to see him — Shakespeare> <another survey…infers that two-thirds of all present computer installations are not paying for themselves — H. R. Chellman>
4: suggest, hint <are you inferring I'm incompetent?>
intransitive verb
: to draw inferences <men…have observed, inferred, and reasoned…to all kinds of results — John Dewey>
— in·fer·able also in·fer·ri·ble \in-ˈfər-ə-bəl\ adjective
— in·fer·rer \-ˈfər-ər\ noun
synonyms infer, deduce, conclude, judge, gather mean to arrive at a mental conclusion. infer implies arriving at a conclusion by reasoning from evidence; if the evidence is slight, the term comes close to surmise <from that remark, I inferred that they knew each other>. deduce often adds to infer the special implication of drawing a particular inference from a generalization <denied we could deduce anything important from human mortality>. conclude implies arriving at a necessary inference at the end of a chain of reasoning <concluded that only the accused could be guilty>. judge stresses a weighing of the evidence on which a conclusion is based <judge people by their actions>. gather suggests an intuitive forming of a conclusion from implications <gathered their desire to be alone without a word>.
usage Sir Thomas More is the first writer known to have used both infer and imply in their approved senses (1528). He is also the first to have used infer in a sense close in meaning to imply (1533). Both of these uses of infer coexisted without comment until some time around the end of World War I. Since then, senses 3 and 4 of infer have been frequently condemned as an undesirable blurring of a useful distinction. The actual blurring has been done by the commentators. Sense 3, descended from More's use of 1533, does not occur with a personal subject. When objections arose, they were to a use with a personal subject (now sense 4). Since dictionaries did not recognize this use specifically, the objectors assumed that sense 3 was the one they found illogical, even though it had been in respectable use for four centuries. The actual usage condemned was a spoken one never used in logical discourse. At present sense 4 is found in print chiefly in letters to the editor and other informal prose, not in serious intellectual writing. The controversy over sense 4 has apparently reduced the frequency of use of sense 3.

[JuniperLea]

64. Pretty funny this has been discussed for so long!

We're in good company at least:)

[PVnRT]

62. People were defending Rush Limbaugh a few days ago

about the "Barack the Magic Negro" thing.

Whether or not he said what the OP said he did, it's awfully telling that Clinton supporters are quick to jump to his defense simply because it's something negative about Obama.

[cali]

43. Pathetic. Anyone with half a brain could recognize the rhetorical device

that Effie was employing. But hey, good on you for coming to the defense of a racist, anti-semitic, homophobic pos. Particularly after all the self-righteous ranting you spew. Surprising. Or not.

[redqueen]

67. Oh for the love of God...

Why are you pretending you didn't recognize it as satire from the start?

[Forkboy]

78. Good Christ Maddy.

:eyes:

[PoliticalAmazon]

17. I admire Pat Buchanan for his own integrity and professionalism....

....even though I don't agree with the maajority of his opinions.

Pat Buchanan is a bigot. But he stays true to his own values, and doesn't hide them when it isn't convenient for him.

What usually happens when Pat The Evil Bigot appears is that, sooner or later, he ends up swinging people to his opponent's side.

But he is a terrific and professional interviewer. He is far better than the vast majority of interviewer on the air.

[goclark]

18. Pat is scum and there is nothing terrific about him

[PoliticalAmazon]

26. If you assess his skills as an interviewer, he is good. His opinions--not so good.

[H2O Man]

32. He rarely interviews

others on tv; his MSNBC job is almost exclusively to be interviewed. He provides his opinions.

He has insight in two areas: foreign affairs (including history, and domestic "dirty tricks." On most domestic issues, especially "values," he is a paleo conservative, living in the distant past.

[PoliticalAmazon]

34. Have you ever seen his sister, Bay? She is a BONA FIDE lunatic....

...I mean, NUTS.

And their brother got arrested for asaulting a car of one of the Clinton lawyers (I think it was a lawyer; it was associated with Clinton during the NookieGate disasters).

So, considering the gene pool, pat is doing pretty good.

[H2O Man]

35. She has

all of Pat's unattractive qualities, and neither of his good ones.

When he was a young man, Pat had some legal troubles for fighting.

[PoliticalAmazon]

65. I think there is an underying mental problem in the family; Pat has either...

...largely escaped it, or has better control over when he manifests it.

About a month ago, on MSNBC, Pat lost it. It is very unlike him to do that, but he did. I think it was during the time of the "sniper fire" outing. He appears to support Hillary, and her lying about that and then people calling her on it seemed to push him over the edge.

[Coexist]

42. paleo-conservative

I like that term. Did you get it from Crashing the Gate? or does it pre-date that?

[bluerum]

19. I'm convinced.

NOT

[chill_wind]

24. I admire him for his overt homophobia, anti-semitism, bigotry

not at all. His "Overtness" gets no free passes with me.

[PoliticalAmazon]

29. Didn't say I shared his opinions. Said his interview skills are good....

...objectively assessing them separate from the emotionality of the reaction to his opinions.

[chill_wind]

38. I could be missing something, then. I have never seen his interview skills.

All I've seen is his role as a commentator. As Scarborough et al opinion pundit fixture on the MSNBC rounds of shows.
All I know him by is the content of his commentary. And collected past print/column writings. As of that, I can't separate the
delivery style from the actual content output, no matter how I try.

[Skidmore]

37. Pat needs to be consigned to the dustbin of history. He is stuck not in the last century

but square in the middle of the 19th century, still in shock that the South lost the Civil War and them negras are now free. He is vile and I would love to see someone confront him on his bigotry instead of pussyfooting around it and treating him as if he were a past president.

[redqueen]

68. "I would love to see someone confront him on his bigotry

instead of pussyfooting around it and treating him as if he were a past president."

A-frickin-men!

[PoliticalAmazon]

70. I'm sure he sees his bigotry as built on a logical argument. He would just argue....

...that he isn't a bigot, and probably build a strong argument to back it up.

Of course, someone else could then easily come along and build an equally strong argument that he IS a bigot.

[redqueen]

71. Strong argument?

I have no idea what makes you think so.

He says unbelievably idiotic, easily refuted things.

[PoliticalAmazon]

72. He makes logical arguments. The weakness is in the evidence he presents to support his opinions...

...So his arguments can be refuted, but it's evident that he does take time organizing them.

[Leopolds Ghost]

85. Plus he is honest about his bigotry, unlike liberal Clinton supporters

Some of whom are my friends (and yes, sadly they are bigots, and yes, sadly they are people who would normally be classified as populists
but can't bring themselves to make common cause with black people --
or "Mexicans" -- while anti-populist liberals pat Obama on the head
and encourage him to moderate his economic platform to appeal to
wealthy independents.)

[Life Long Dem]

21. Huh? What where who? DUCK!! INCOMING!!!

What's cable news anyway? :sarcasm:

[Leopolds Ghost]

86. Don't scare me like that! I thought Hillary had a gun n/t

[chill_wind]

23. "If Maureen Dowd thinks people were seeing an Angry Black Man yesterday

(referring to Barack and his press statements), all I can say is she's never seen an ANGRY BROTHER!"

Lots of approving snorting and laughing. Because you know, overt bigots, homophobes, anti-semites and racists like Pat are just so entertaining.

:sarcasm:

[Life Long Dem]

28. Maybe someone should throw her under the bus.

When she came up and if she wasn't angry I'd think something was wrong with her.

[H2O Man]

25. Poor Pat.

When he thought that Obama was only capable of annoying Clinton, Pat pretended he liked Barack. Now his worst fears are coming true: a black man is going to be elected President of the United States.

[chill_wind]

27. They all did that. He was never supposed to get this far. Guess he didn't know that.

The Criminal Oligarchy/Corp Whore Media *isn't* liking it.

[Leopolds Ghost]

87. Best Post In Thread

Once... they were men. Now they are land crabs.

[Dr Fate]

31. But dont certain "working class" Hillary voters agree with him?

Am I wrong?

[FrenchieCat]

39. You must mean McCain voters?

Because at the end of the day, that's all that they will be, once the Corporate media gives her a taste--if she's able to lie her way into the nomination.

[Dr Fate]

40. THANK YOU! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!!!

In fact, believe it or not- I almost called them "temporary Hillary voters" for that very reason.

THANK YOU- you seem to be the only other DUer who realizes this-

You NAILED it my friend- if Hillary can convince them that ANY Dem is an unpatriotic elitist, then McCain/Media will have NO PROBLEM convincing them of ANYTHING.

All he needs is a few lies and a one or two tenuous associations to set them off once again...they dont call 'em "swing voters" for nothin!!!

[mrreowwr_kittty]

76. Add me to the list as well.

When was the last time the currently vaunted "white blue collar vote" came through for us? Let me answer that: Not since Reagan. There are people who have been registered as Dems for decades and they have not voted for a Dem in the general for decades. Call them DINOs, Reagan Democrats, whatever. In November they ain't voting for our candidate. They're that 15 - 20% of Dems who will vote for McCain.

[rucky]

97. Damn!, I lost my secret decoder ring.

I don't understand a thing Buchanan or any of you are saying.

[TexasObserver]

41. Pat Buchanan is hysterical about Obama. He is beside himself.

It's both sad and comical to watch him break out in hives over the prospect of Obama becoming president. He sputters like Porky Pig. One need only watch Pat and others like him lauding Hillary Clinton to know how much they fear THE BLACK MAN.

What a doofus!

[chill_wind]

44. He was trying to stay loose for a while. His recent steady crescendo is now approaching

DEFCON-5.

[TexasObserver]

45. Indeed. In his head, he's running around with his hair on fire, yelling NE-GRO!!

I thought he was nuts on the Pope and immigration, but he's completely off his leash over Obama. He's crazy old man, gone berserk!

[Barb in Atl]

46. Visualize that for a second....

LOL!!! Thanks!

[TexasObserver]

49. Glad you enjoyed it. The dude is panicked.

Pat was a speech writer for Richard Fucking Nixon!! And he's gotten worse, not better, in time.

[quantass]

51. .

[EffieBlack]

63. I loved it last month when Joe Madison looked at him and said, "What are you so afraid of, Pat?!"

[cliffordu]

48. He is the most transparent racist on television.

I hope his desserts are just:

"

[graycem]

55. Pat makes me curse like a sailor...

He's the only Republican that can simultaneously whine and yell at the same time. Maybe he'll go off the deep end when Obama wins the GE and have to be committed. :crazy:

[Bensthename]

56. Pat is a joke.. A racist joke.. MSNBC should be ashaimed for having him on..

[IndianaJones]

59. Olbermann has come out passionately against this racist...because he really cares. nt.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

77. WTF is with you Hillbots and Olbermann?

What does Olbermann have to do with Buchanan being a bigot?

[Forkboy]

79. They jerk off to Buchanan but Keith is evil incarnate.

[TragedyandHope]

60. Scary, Scary, Scary!!!

[redqueen]

66. Well... he is a racist in a panic, and he has an M$M-provided megaphone.

I expect no less... from him or any of his ilk.

[SeaLyons]

69. What motivates you to post this??

You admit he didn't say it - so why did you post it??

[Forkboy]

81. What motivated you to defend him in the thread with his actual words?

[2rth2pwr]

74. Ok F_E, what did he really say? Not what you heard inside your head, but what he actually spoke- Thx

[Forkboy]

80. Ok, here's what he's actually said.

http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=969

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants.
-----

[2rth2pwr]

82. How does that writing turn into him yelling "wake up America a black man could win!"?

[Forkboy]

91. And as I thought you don't surprise at all.

:applause:

[2rth2pwr]

93. You know, this conversation doesn’t help my kids.

MEREDITH VIEIRA: Michelle, do you feel that the Reverend Wright betrayed your husband?
MICHELLE OBAMA: I think Barack has spoken so clearly and eloquently about this.
MEREDITH VIEIRA: But do you personally feel that the Reverend Wright…
MICHELLE OBAMA: You know what I think Meredith? I think we gotta move forward. You know, this conversation doesn’t help my kids. You know, it doesn’t help kids out there who are looking for us to make decisions and choices about how we’re going to better fund education.


You know what I think Forkboy? I think we gotta move forward. You know, this conversation doesn’t help my kids. You know, it doesn’t help kids out there who are looking for us to make decisions and choices about how we’re going to better fund education.




lol!

[Forkboy]

95. Typical, you like to divert when made to look like an idiot, which is increasingly easy to do.

[2rth2pwr]

96. Look, if you are implying that I am a racist because I don't make the leap you do

fine, you are entitled to your opinion. My opinion is that you are so lacking in your original point that it isn't worth my time to engage you in it.

Your reactions are juvenile, so I respond in kind.

[Jamastiene]

75. I don't know of anyone who actually bothers to listen to anything

that man has to say any more. Oh, except YOU.

[ShortnFiery]

84. Yes, Buchanan is bat shit crazy at the mere notion that BLACKS (savages) may be running his

lily white Nation.

Yes, Buchanan's IRRATIONALLY scared shitless. :eyes:

IMO, dumba** white supremacists are Creeping Me (and most of our Nation) OUT.

When will MSNBC get rid of both Buchanan and Scarborough? - both men's perspectives are FILTHY ... undemocratic ... yes, RACIST.

[yardwork]

88. Are the Zulus on the march again?

Which Republican National Convention was that, again? I think it was the year Poppy was elected. Buchanan is an old-fashioned dyed-in-the-wool racist.

[Vinca]

89. I half expect him to turn up on the set in a sheet. nt

[democracy1st]

90. Pat one big bigot

[Leopolds Ghost]

92. "AMERICA DOESN'T KNOW what it's like to live in a nation run by RICH BLACK PERSON!"

"I say, naah, naah, naah, God Damn Barack Obama! God Damn Barack Obama for smooth-talkin' innocent white women and children! The chickens are coming home to roost in New Orleans! NOTHING MAKES THIS OLD MARINE MADDER!"

Which "racist" was praised/condemned for his performance?




Which one was rewarded for his explicitly racist, homophobic, anti-semitism?


http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/ffximage/2007/05/16/470falwell,0.jpg

[suston96]

94. So you made up what Buchanan said but you put it in quotation marks....? nt

[butterfly77]

98. Exactly...