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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:01 PM
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I finally got responses from Hill supporters to my question
why don't they have a problem with Hills church, the fellowship, for those that want to see the thread go here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5749770&mesg_id=5749770

I only got two responses, I hope to god they are sarcastic and not from sincere Hillary supporters because if this is representative of her supporters, I am embarrassed for them and as a democrat

"Hillary has infiltrated a right-leaning prayer group
Her aim is to change Washington from the inside so she can deliver her progressive political agenda.

Good for Hillary!"

Here is the other one

Hillary defender here: 1) most accusations against Hillary are false, and 2) her record is excellent

Those are the main reasons I'm not concerned.

If you pay attention, you see that people like to make up stuff about Hillary, and then turn around and believe it--an activity analogous to eating one's own feces.

Given the feckless behavior of her critics, it's simply illogical to believe anything bad about the Clinton's.

I would also point out that--if Hillary were a tenth as horrible as her enemies make out--she would have no support from anyone at this point. Instead, she holds her own against Obama, despite a profoundly Clintophobic media.
Republicans dumb. Libertarians dumber. Conspiracy guys DUMBEST.

Now I don't know if these poster are just having fun, what the hell they might be Obama supporters for all I know
but what is really interesting is the lack of Hill supporters coming to her defense on her membership in this organization. They should be ready for a group reply because May 20th a book on the "Family" is coming out and there will be information on her leadership role in the church. Hillary is not just someone who attended a few of their meetings she is a full fledged member
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:14 PM
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1. They tend to ignore the questions they don't want to answer
especially when they know you're right.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:15 PM
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2. If you think that's bad...
ask them about the war in Iraq.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:20 PM
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3. well you know what their answer to that is?
"If Obama was in the senate at the time he would have voted for the IWR" their argruments fit well with the republican crowd
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:24 PM
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5. or "gooks"...and I'm quoting McCain. nt.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:25 PM
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6. You certainly are.
Although I'm not sure why.

:shrug:
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:26 PM
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7. I are one. Your reasons? Well...we know that. nt.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:29 PM
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9. You know, with proper medication that's treatable.
It won't go away, but you can at least function.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:30 PM
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10. mm hmm. nt.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:24 PM
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4. Could you PM me when you make a post about this post? Thanks.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:37 PM
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11. hey another one afraid to answer the question
another coward,:rofl:

answer you don't have do
what chump with your truth to power shit, freaking hypocrite

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:16 PM
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12. I have answered this already, there is nothing to be afraid of.
Ok, I watched the video. There is no there there.

"She does not consider him one of her leading spiritual advisors, has never contributed

to his group and is not a member"

He was showing what can happen in godless societies, the commitment that should be with Christ is used by the state

for the states purposes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5729961&mesg_id=5747736



Other than the Alex Jonesy style writing

They get to use The Family's spacious estate on the Potomac, The Cedars, which is maintained by young men in Family group homes and where meals are served by The Family's young women's group. And, at The Family's frequent prayer gatherings, they get powerful jolts of spiritual refreshment, tailored to the already powerful.


oooooooooh, scary.

That could be written like this- Some of the Senators take advantage of the large facilities that the church provides, members of the congregation maintain the property and provide meals. There are frequent prayer meetings for spiritual time that are aimed to be topical to the politicians daily life.


What is the issue?

I see you put at the bottom of your post that they are working world wide toward a government by God. ?? How does that work, where is the evidence of that?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5741264&mesg_id=5747820
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:48 PM
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13. I apologize then you are not a coward
si I guess this was a post to another thread not a direct one to mine, I don't see how these responses are releavant to what posted i don't find what you have as a warranted defense but nevertheless again you are not coward
so I will slap myself ten times in the head for calling you something you are not

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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:28 PM
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8. .
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:58 PM
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14. false premises there
I have no problem whatsoever with Wright or Obama's church. Of course I am not a Clinton supporter. I do have problems with Clinton's church. But then I am not an Obama supporter.

Why is Obama's church an issue, while McCain's and Clinton's are not? Racism. There is a double standard. This is an opportunity for all of us to discuss this. But we don't. That would be too uncomfortable and require too much courage. It is much safer and easier to attack Clinton and Clinton supporters.

Creating these phony and contrived scripts for "us versus them" and "good versus evil" all-or-nothing melodramas cripple and divide us, and divert us from any possibility of serious and intelligent discussion. They hurt the party. They also hurt your candidate.
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