Obama v. Wright is brilliant. It really is.

[Joe the Revelator]

I swear, Obama is playing Chess while everyone else is playing Go Fish.

Here's how this works:

A. Obama knows, either from contacts with enough SD's or just his ability to do math that he has won the nomination. There is really no questioning this.

B. He knows that Wright will be a liability in November because they're friendly.

C. Reframe the debate as "Wright is his enemy who is trying to tear him down."

D. Wright becomes just another person who is on the attack. Every politician has to deal with these types of people.

E. Bingo, Bango, Obama is innoculated for the rest of the race, Wright becomes a null and actually could lead to a net gain by those who don't like attack politics.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

1. If it's a strategy, it's a pretty smart one. nt

[Joe the Revelator]

2. If I was running the campaign, and knew I had the nomination sewn up, I'd use it

You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. It still sucks that he has to do it b/c Jeremiah Wright is a good man who has done terrific things.

Yes, he's said a few dumb things too but people like him are prone to being passionate.

[sunnystarr]

42. I agreed with you until yesterday ...

I was nervous Friday night not being sure exactly he meant on Moyer's show. But he made it perfectly clear on Monday. It was so disappointing to see a man so full of himself, so egocentric, and so determined to go after Obama and put him down so he could lift himself up. He could have easily taken the opportunity to show America what he was about without attempting to destroy Obama.

Wright destroyed his own legacy in full view of world.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

46. Yeah, that was dumb of him.

I thought he redeemed himself very well on Moyers and then hammed it up for the audience at the Nat'l Press Club event.

[walldude]

68. Yes he did. It's called sacrificing yourself for the greater good.

I'm not even going to explain it...

[bhikkhu]

94. Sad but true.

And the sadness in Obama's speech today was palpable...but onward regardless, and the next week will certainly be a good one.

[2rth2pwr]

3. Cool. Obama spent 20 years with the guy and thought he was on his side.

Great judgment, I can see how this will help him.


??

[Nia Zuri]

33. Just like Hillary and her adulterous husband?

[NoodleyAppendage]

49. OUCH. Nice one. n/t

J

[uponit7771]

89. like whoa!

[StevieM]

91. I'm sorry you feel the need to be so hateful. But I guess that's what the Obama movement

is all about. Indentifying the enemies of change and slandering them.

Steve

[samsingh]

56. and mccain is a great example of stability

[Abacus]

4. I was just asking about D in another thread.

I've missed much of the media attention, but what I saw this morning seemed to side with Obama against Wright.

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. He's turning lemons into piss.

If you think this feud is intentional, you're nuts.

[JackORoses]

32. as opposed to Hillary who turns shit into shit sandwiches

sure, they look more appetizing with the bread and garnishings,
but in the end, they still taste like shit.

[Texas Hill Country]

50. k&r - there has been a lot of damage done.

[sunonmars]

6. are you mad, this is self destruct.

[Joe the Revelator]

9. Watch and learn.

He's already used Wright once to his advantage, and he's doing it again.

[jasmine621]

7. Obama is too late with this to be innoculated for the rest of the race.

Trust me. He looks more like a politician now working on political expediency when he should have had this conversation months ago. Maybe even before he announced his campaign.

[Joe the Revelator]

11. You and the rest of the "Screw Obama Crew" aren't going to get this

Which is why your posts are the way they are in this thread.Then there are those of us who can think outside the box and see where this is heading.

Thankfully, the majority of the board is in the latter catagory.

[Tellurian]

14. Obama on tv admits he hasn't read Wright's transcripts from the Press Conference..

Obama never does his Homework!

Obama just said, he didn't VET his Pastor before he joined his Congregation ..This is sheer insanity!

Obama hasn't been vetted..What in the world is he talking about? Jeebus, what disjointed thinking!

Wright will be back on tv by the end of the week... you can bet on that!

[Joe the Revelator]

18. It doesn't matter if Wright is back on TV, he's now been framed as a guy with an ax to grind.

Out played. Out matched.

[Tellurian]

59. Don't count your chickens..

No doubt in those 20 yrs.. Wright knows all of Obama's secrets/weaknesses!

Wright has an ego a mile high. He won't go quietly.

This isn't over by a long shot!

[gal]

21. And Hillary didn't read the papers before voting for the war in Iraq.

So your real point is?

[Tellurian]

60. Hillary is not Obama..

Hillary did read the paperwork. She wasn't allowed to read the CiA paperwork.

So, your point is?

[symbolman]

73. Now that's a total horseshit dodge friend..

I spent a year researching all this for a film "Rove's War" and she voted WITHOUT reading the NIE, and admitted it..

Unless THAT was Another Lie by her, hard to tell..

The NIE was available, what she did was politically expedient and that was the day she lost me forever..

She's either a war monger or ineffectual..

Maybe you could supply some proof, a link?

[Tellurian]

80. You suppy the proof...You spent a year doing all this research

it should be right at your fingertips..

Lets see it!

[cboy4]

93. LOL!

Don't hold your breath.

[SeaLyons]

41. Oh yea, Wright will be back

playing the dozens against Obama. He will not let this go. He's an ego maniac.

[Qutzupalotl]

58. And if he does, he will be seen as an attacker.

[Tellurian]

61. Face it...Obama can't afford to play this game..

If he responds he will be seen as an attacker.. If not, silence will mean acquiesce!

[RazBerryBeret]

44. how do you vet your PASTOR?

I guess I haven't done that either.
and I haven't vetted my doctor or my hair stylist.
shit, I'm in trouble.

[notfullofit]

51. Tweety just said

he expects Wright to respond in time for the evening news tonight. Fireworks?

[americanstranger]

8. I had that thought also. But I'd make one adjustment:

Barack is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

There. Better. :D

- as

[Larkspur]

10. I'm angry at Obama for prostituting himself on the Fascist Propaganda Network on Sunday

When will Obama give a speech about the dangers Faux News presents to this Nation?

[Joe the Revelator]

12. Don't change the subject, but feel free to create a new thread.

[NJmaverick]

15. While I still have my doubts, this does seem to be playing out in Obama's favor

I can't be sure if it's by accident or design, though.

[DerekJ]

16. I said that couple of days ago. I said the GOP was coming with ADs using Wright, McCain is changing

his tone. So there is a chance Obama started this to control the message and diffuse their last weapon.

Maybe, Just maybe.

[JackORoses]

17. Exactly. just like when McCain wrapped up his nomination and then out comes the 'Lobbyist Trist'

It is like being vaccinated.
You take on a weakened version of the problem at a the time of your choosing.

[NNN0LHI]

19. ...

:rofl:

[CoffeeCat]

20. I think there's so much about this...

...that we really don't know.

I posted yesterday about how I felt that the Wright situation felt incredibly orchestrated.

I still maintain that.

Why on Earth was Wright provided with three solid days of yammering that was covered non-stop
by the mainstream media? It was as if someone provided him with a glaring opportunity to
show America how unpleasant and radical he is.

Even the format was so generous. He gave a large speech and then answered pre-screened
audience questions. He wasn't interviewed by the media. The media never had access to
him. However, the media covered it all--from end to end. That's unusual. The media
cuts in and out of speeches from Obama, Clinton and even the President.

I still feel today---despite all of the heartache and problems this has caused for Obama--that
all of this has been orchestrated. I really do.

I think someone gave Wright a platform on purpose---because once his outrageous views were known--it
would be easier for Obama to denounce Wright and cut him off for good.

Obama realized that he needed to do this--to wipe the slate clean for the rest of the IN/NC campaigns. Otherwise
this distraction hobbles him. Furthermore, this also neutralizes the issue for the GE---and takes
away Hillary's argument to the Superdelegates that Obama's Wright situation will kill him in the GE.

After denouncing him like this--the Republicans and McCain really have nowhere to go with this--because Obama
made the distinction betweeen his views and Wright's and severed ties with him.

[Jersey Devil]

22. aye, there's the rub

Twas a play within a play methinks, staged every step of the way.

What is confusing everyone is that it happened just before NC and Ind, but I think this was done with an eye towards the general election. Obama knows he's won the primaries so I think that is of little concern to him now. This show was for November. Doing it after the primaries would have looked too fake, too obvious. I think this guy is a genius.

[ProSense]

30. The platform was the most curious thing.

Still, everything wright said was true, and his animation was hilarious. The mocking is what seemed to inspire the outrage, and Obama did what he had to do.

[Lisa0825]

38. I agree....

and I think Wright was on board for it. I think he handed himself up on a silver platter for Obama to do what he needed to do. If Wright had said nothing new, Obama would need to stand by the statements he'd already made about Wright. But since Wright stepped up the rhetoric, Obama was able to come forward with a stronger statement, without apprearing to backtrack or flip flop. It was a reaction to something new, not something in the past. And it was probably directly related to ads the GOP had in the pipe. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if this was created as a way to rended a future GOP ad useless before it ever airs.

[Samantha]

70. And it's entirely possible Wright "cooperated"

I started wondering this morning if this was orchestrated. I think there is a closeness beween Obama and Wright that many will never understand. I cannot believe Wright would not want to see a man who identifies himself as African-American sitting in the Oval House. And if he had to make a supreme sacrifice in order to grease the wheels, I think he just might have been willing to do so.

This all remains to be seem; but in no way should we rule this premise out.

Sam

[Raine]

75. Interesting and if this is the case

then these two men are genius and it makes me believe that without a doubt Obama will make it to the Whitehouse.

[Tatiana]

83. I agree.

The Wright I saw on Bill Moyers was more in line with the Rev. Wright I know. Same goes for the Wright at the NAACP. But the Wright I viewed at the Press Club was not the Wright *I* know. That was a caricature... it was almost as if he had taken every aspect of his persona people had issue with and exaggerated it. In 10 years of visiting Trinity church, in 10 years of seeing Rev. Wright at various local events, I've NEVER seen him conduct himself in such a manner.

I do believe this is a play within a play and an attempt to innoculate Obama for the general election. I honestly don't think Obama knew what Wright was planning and that this three-day media storm is of Wright's own making.

We'll see come November whether this strategy worked.

[KittyWampus]

23. Sorry, but now the media narrative now= Obama's judgement sucks for associating all these years

Obama failed to change the media narrative.

[CoffeeCat]

28. The media is throwing Wright under the bus...

...and driving around with him stuck to the wheel.

The vast majority of talking heads are totally slashing Wright. It's like watching
a live political vivisection.

Wright is damaged now. The media is totally piling on him and positioning him as the
bad guy.

Obama is being positioned as the victim of Wright---and Obama is now the "anti-Wright" go-to guy.

Hillary, McCain---no longer have to denounce Wright, because Obama is doing it now.
Therefore the crisis is neutralized.

The media is also flowing over about Obama being distraught, upset and hurt by this.

You'll always have your Pat Buchanan's, and other hard-right wackos who won't side with Obama, but
the vast majority of talking heads are completely lambasting Wright and siding with Obama on this.

[stillcool]

78. great line...

'driving around with him stuck to the wheel' :hi:

[ProSense]

29. BS, people change, that's all anyone has to know. That's why divorces happen.

People can relate to that.

[Nia Zuri]

31. You mena like Hillary's choice to stay married to a serial adulterer for 33 years?

[redqueen]

36. Judgement? Like deciding whether to vote for a war?

Deciding which of Bush's lies you'll legitimize & repeat?

Deciding whether or not to support NAFTA?

Deciding whether or not to lie about supporting NAFTA in the past?

etc?

[Joe the Revelator]

24. After reading Obama's comments from the presser, I'm 99% sure that this was strategy

Brilliant Brilliant strategy. Knowing it for what it is takes away the soap opraness of it, and just makes it good politics.

This is why Obama will be the next President.

[redqueen]

37. I like your take on this.

:)

[americanstranger]

43. I think the clue is here - from Wright himself, on Moyers.

"He's a politician, I'm a pastor. We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician. I say what I have to say as a pastor. Those are two different worlds. I do what I do. He does what politicians do."

Some people read this as a dis. I read it as a telegraphed punch.

I said late last week that O and Wright were working the media here. It might not be 'new politics,' but it is a truly brilliant way of using the 'old politics' against itself.

- as

[NJmaverick]

25. Having heard what Obama said, this has played out perfectly

Wright gave Obama a badly needed out, with his recent speeches, and Obama took it. The Wright issue is now history.

[knixphan]

27. nomad1776 is right.

[uponit7771]

26. It would be a GREAT tactical move but it still makes me so fucking mad that ....sigh

[writes3000]

34. Wright crossed the line big time - when he started planting cynical suspicions...

About Obama's motivations. Even if Wright didn't intend it, it went way, way over the line.

[Barack_America]

35. Nonetheless, it's still unfortunate they have to go through this little charade. n/t

[unblock]

39. can you say "sister soulja"?

[americanstranger]

40. Damn. now that you mention it....

Ripped right out of the Big Dog's playbook.

Double fucking dead brilliant.

- as

[myrna minx]

77. Oh my, I think you're right.

:toast: If it's the case, tis a brilliant move.

[knixphan]

45. strategy-kick

[tishaLA]

47. Is this his Sista Souljah moment?

Distancing himself from inflammatory remarks about race...?

[americanstranger]

52. I think we just saw what hoops fans call an 'ankle-breaker.'

Head fake, stutter step, crossover dribble, to the hoop.

Obama just played the media like they've never been played before - and they don't even know it yet.

With an assist from Jeremiah Wright.

He's going to make a great president.

- as

[Texas Hill Country]

48. ummm... i dont think so

[Joe the Revelator]

53. Of course you don't...

but no one expected you to.

[walldude]

69. Chess not Go Fish

Your thinking that this is not possible is the kind of thinking that will lose Hillary the nomination. Underestimating your opponent is the worst thing you could do.

[Hoof Hearted]

54. BRILLIANT!

Yes. They should keep this up for as long as possible!

:rofl:

[Joe the Revelator]

55. Keep holing on to whatever you have, the adults will talk about actual political strategy

Maybe if your gal had some she'd have a chance at the nomination.

[Hoof Hearted]

57. Yeah, the polls are really bearing that out.

You poor thing. :rofl:

[Joe the Revelator]

64. You've got to be kidding me. Hillary just won a state, she got a bump,and Obama has had horrible

media coverage.She's peaked sweetheart. And do you want to know why?

The Clinton campaign is inept compared to the level that Obama is working on.

[zulchzulu]

62. Obama took away the Reverend Wright toy from the MSM, HRC and McSame

They can't play "pin the Wright on the Obama" game anymore.

:rofl:

[Tellurian]

63. No, they'll play pin the Obama on Wright..

The damage is done.. you can't unring a bell!

[Qutzupalotl]

65. And it's driving Ignored nuts!

He keeps posting and posting, but still no traction.

[Bigleaf]

66. Is it Obama vs. Wright OR Obama and Wright? Did Wright take one for the team?

This one is a tough call for me. Fuck, to be a fly on the wall at Obama HQ.

[walldude]

67. I was about to post this very thing...

Crazy like a fox. Obama and Wright played this so well that Hillary supporters are in full spin mode. Hillary supporters kept saying the GOP would slaughter Obama over Wright, so Obama and Wright did something about it. Grand Admiral Thrawn couldn't have played this better.

[Indenturedebtor]

71. Grand Admiral Thrawn

:rofl:

I dunno if this was strategeryizing or not. Either way I hope it plays well. If Hagee gets a free pass I will block every single Nooz channel on my satellite until the day I die.

[jakem]

72. wow. really interesting point.

if it is true, it is genius.

[Joe the Revelator]

95. Which is why this is one of the best run campaigns since 92

Axelrod is awesome.

[frickaline]

74. If this was planned it wasn't planned very well, why did he say he couldn't disown previously if

the plan was to disown all along? That part doesn't fly for me.

"I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother" after the first offense and then after the next round he completely disowns Rev Wright.

How does this part fit into your plan? It seems to me that the RW is going to use this to attack Obama's credibility going forward, unfortunately, along with claims that he's disingenuous about the whole thing and secretly still praying with Wright.

I'll take Obama's word first and set conspiracy theories aside, tyvm.

[stillcool]

79. Did that work?

Did that shut anyone...anyone up? Everyday there have been negative posts by some people about Reverend Wright, and every day the media states Reverend Wright as an 'issue'.

[frickaline]

85. I don't follow you, sorry

I think you meant to respond to the original poster the more I look at your text. My post was stating that it is not likely that this was staged.

[wiggs]

76. don't think so. If it weren't Wright, it would be something else. This is

getting 24 hour coverage because msm bosses want diminishment of public discourse and smearing of the most dangerous dem candidate.

[stillcool]

81. Maybe not a bad thing...

as you said, if it weren't this it would be something else. Let them play. And each time they go down the road of irrelevance they make themselves more irrelevant.

[GoldieAZ49]

82. Spin it baby!

like your on a swivel stick

:rofl:

[Maddy McCall]

84. When the lemons are bitter, make lemonade.

I admire the way you're taking this. It's really cute.

[Joe the Revelator]

86. Don't worry honey, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know whats going on here.

[Swamp Rat]

88. LOL!

:D

[Swamp Rat]

87. Hillary is playing 52 Card Pick-Up

:D

[cboy4]

90. You're adorable.

Drunken.

But adorable.

[Joe the Revelator]

92. Sober as a judge.....whats adorable is..

your inability to realize that you've been hoodwinked. You took the bait and Obama is a stronger GE candidate because of it.