Oh, for godsakes, calm down about Wright

[Rob Gregory Browne]

Let's please keep in mind that Obama has already won this thing. This is just a show for the networks to get ratings. Much ado about nothing. Obama is the nominee. Nothing Hillary does can change that.

It's a nice little spectacle, but that's ALL it is.

[John Q. Citizen]

1. Yep. Better to hit some doors, make some calls, do some tabling at the Post office than to wring

hands.

[DevonRex]

2. Yep. Time for some more hard work. And a little dose of

reality for those who don't like math.

[SeaLyons]

3. No, Obama has NOT won anything...

he may be ahead in delegates, but that's about it. This is much more than a spectacle. Wright has opened a can of worms that Obama cannot get away from. And if Obama doesn't get the nomination, it will be of his own doing. He refused to disown this guy, and now the guy has thrown him under the bus.

No, sorry - but it's much ado about something.

[NJmaverick]

5. he may be ahead in delegates

Sure he won more votes, more states and has more delegats, but that doesn't mean a thing. After all, Hillary WANTS to be President

[SeaLyons]

6. Yes, she does,

and it is her tenacity and fight that will win her the Presidency. People want someone that will fight for them. That's why she's still in the race. That's why she has nearly 14 million votes. She is the best candidate to beat McCain.

Hillary for President!!

[yellowcanine]

8. False logic: Hillary fighting for herself does not equal fighting for people.

No positive correlation whatsoever. I would trust her history more. And she did not fight for us when George Bush ginned up a phony war that is now ruining our economy. Neither did a lot of other senators, but the hard truth is that she chose political self interest instead of fighting for us.

[SeaLyons]

9. Obviously,

I disagree with you. I believe she will fight for America, the middle class, and getting our troops home. She has guts, and that's what it's going to take to fix the problems we have now.

[PoliticalAmazon]

12. She has not fought for any of those things while in the Senate. What makes you think...

...she's going to do a 180-degree turn and suddenly work for the best interests of the American people, not the best interests of her corporate backers?

We know we can't trust what she promises because she has not kept many of her campaign promises before AND because she is a liar (nearly an uncontrollable and pathological liar).

[yellowcanine]

17. You disagree that it is false logic? Sorry you will have to do better than that.

We need more that what you "believe". I will believe my "lying eyes" instead of believing you.

[PoliticalAmazon]

16. HOORAY! Yes, look at her history of actions snice she's been in the Senate...

...She has voted more to further the best interests of the neocons than she has the best interests of the people. Patriot Act(s), bankruptcy bill, votes to invade Iraq and Iran, votes to bring in guestworkers from India to work here in the U.S., driving on roads that taxpayers paid for, using the infrastructure that we paid for: these are all votes that have greatly harmed the American people.

We also know that she ia liar. Therefore, her promises cannot be believed.

[NJmaverick]

11. The problem is all she can offer is fighing

We need more from a president

[PoliticalAmazon]

13. AND she has already promised India to continue outsourcing American jobs there....

...so, while she may "fight" if elected, it won't be for the best interests of the American people, just like it has been for the years she has been in the Senate. It will continue to be for the bester interests of her corporate backers, many of whom own large outsourcing companies in India.

[yodermon]

21. Then why do her approvals top out at 45% on a good day? n/t

[reggie the dog]

24. have you thought about what will happen

If Obama goes into the convetion leading the pledged delegates but comes up the loser because of the superdelegates???? How do you think black people in the USA will take that? Do you think they will bother to vote Democrat anymore, or will they perhaps form their own party? Seriously, if the convention chooses Obama were Clinton leading in the pledged delegate count would you expect women to bother voting Democrat anymore? Unless Clinton goes into the convention leading the pledged delegates her being nominated will be taken as an insult by many Democratic voters, and black people will see it as yet another instance where they have different standards to meet than white people do.

[otohara]

7. Worms Is All You Guys Got

Obama isn't the kind of guy (unlike Bill Clinton to SD's) to call up people and berate them for speaking out. The Clinton's will pounce on this to SD's and scream Wright, Wright, Wright - They have thrown the AA's of this country under the bus Rosa Parks sat on. If somehow she manages to rip this nomination from him through SD's there will be riots in Denver, but it won't be Limbaugh listeners doing the rioting.

[americanstranger]

15. Keep wishing.

Obama showed more guts and integrity than any politician in recent memory by disowning the comments and not the man.

While some candidates would sooner cut the throat of a friend than risk their campaign, Obama's bigger than that.

Why do you think people believe in him as a candidate? Because he does not do the things that a Hillary Clinton or a John McCain would do without a thought.

- as

[azmouse]

18. So who threw who under what bus?

There are so many people under that damn bus I can't keep track of them.

Buh-bye HilLIARy. Obama HAS won.

[The_Counsel]

19. More Like "Much Ado About Something ... Stupid."

What else is Obama supposed to say about this guy? "Hang 'im from the nearest tree?"

Oh, wait: he's supposed to "denounce and reject" Rev. Wright! How could we have been so naive??!!

:eyes:

Obama may not have won anything, but he will. He could lose a majority of the remaining primaries and the remaining superdelegates by a 2:1 margin and STILL be the nominee. Barring some good-ole-boy circle jerk from the party bigs, your girl is toast. You know it. I know it. Hell, Hillary knows it. Let's not pretend anymore.

Oh, and here's an interesting homework assignment: Please find one direct reference to Barrack Obama in Rev. Wright's speech last night that figures to be a bad thing on the Illinois senator. Just one.

Here's the only reference I could find:

"Please run and tell my stuck on stupid friends that Arabic is a language, it's not a religion. Barack Hussein Obama. Barack Hussein Obama. Barack Hussein Obama. They are Arabic-speaking Christians, Arabic-speaking Jews and Arabic speaking atheists. Arabic is a language, it's not a religion. Stop trying to scare folks by giving them an Arabic name as if it's some sort of a disease."

Here's the problem that Obama bashers seem to have with this paragraph: IT'S ALL TRUE! People who try to spin anyone with an Arabic name as somehow automatically evil IS "stuck on stupid!" The name doesn't make one evil. EVIL makes one evil! You know, like Idi Amin. Saddam Hussein. Osama bin Laden. Dick Cheney.

Yup ... much ado about something...

...stupid. :eyes:

[reggie the dog]

22. thrown under the bus?

Why are people so into using this term lately? What does it even mean? What Wright speech did you see that made you think he is a liabiltiy for the Democrats? I am under the impression that most people opposed to Wright's brutally honest depiction of US race relations already vote Republican. Obama has consistently done very will with the independent and moderate Republican voters. So what is the problem here?

[elizm]

23. Should Hillary have disowned Bill for lying under oath in a sexual harrassment case?

Just askin'...

[otohara]

4. The Mud The Media Throws

at Wright and via Obama is sickening. Unless you're a Hillary supporter then Wright is the gift that keeps on giving. They are happy campers today.

[Rob Gregory Browne]

10. They have nothing to be happy about

They've lost. They can't make up the delegate count. SDs are flocking toward Obama. They don't even have the precious popular vote they've been touting. This is a MEDIA SHOW and nothing more.

By the end of May the Hillary/Obama show will be over and the Obama/McCain show will begin. The party will unify behind the nominee and the Republicans and Independents who don't want another four years of Bush disaster will vote Obama.

This is fun stuff, but it's entertainment, nothing else.

[americanstranger]

14. It dismays me how easily led people are.

A lot of it might be disingenuous 'gotcha-ism' (especially here, where if a fork falls off a table someone will proclaim it a mag 8 earthquake if they think it'll score their fave rave a political point or two), but it sure seems like a lot of people wait for the soccer ball to get kicked and happily just run right after it.

Aren't we supposed to smarter than that?

- as

[TragedyandHope]

20. It's sad, but Wright is all they've got

If they talk about the issues, policy and their candidate's character, she sinks in the polls.

So, they keep repeating Wright's name over and over like a mantra and hope that it will somehow stick in enough people's minds and make them forget everything Obama has ever done or said that makes him the right person to lead our country as the next President of the United States.

[Mooney]

25. It's like the heroin addict at the intervention.

He knows it's over but keeps throwing verbal grenades, hoping one of them will be upsetting enough to distract his loved ones from the mission at hand.

Jeff Van Vonderen needs to come in and finish this thing.