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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:24 PM
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Something I've been thinking about re: Crowd chants from each candidate
I've been thinking about this for a while now.

There is such a fundamental difference in the tone and ideals of the two democratic campaigns, and you can see it in the chants at each candidates respective events.

During Hillary's events and victory speeches:

"YES SHE WILL, YES SHE WILL"

During Obama's:

"YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN"

Right there is the difference between the two candidates, at least to me. Hillary's campaign is about Hillary and no one else.

Obama's is about all of us, and how we all need to work together to actually accomplish anything.

I know which message I want to support.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:27 PM
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1. I agree; that's the difference in a nutshell.
It's ironic that some Hillary supporters say we're in a cult, when Hillary's campaign exists solely for the glorification of Dear Leader Hillary.
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:31 PM
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3. Absolutely. It's mind boggling. n/t
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:35 PM
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5. I'm hearing young people
in their 20s interpret "yes we can" as taking responsibility.
I think it's a shorter more excited version of "ask not what your country....."
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:27 PM
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2. "YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN".......tells it all
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:33 PM
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4. Especially since she ripped "Yes she will" BLATANTLY off Obama
:eyes:
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:02 PM
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8. it's a play on words, not a rip off. a rip off is him taking the Yes We Can in the first place.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:40 PM
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6. I noticed that a long time ago, not just in the chants, but in the
way each candidate describes what they will do (and I don't mean the specific policies; those are similar in many ways between the two of them), but rather, I mean in how they TALK about them.

When I listen to Obama, I hear a lot of "we" talk in there, but when I listen to Clinton, I hear more "I" talk in her speeches.

Obama appears to be to be more inclusive, in terms of We The People participating AND in terms of We The People taking some responsibility for getting things done, for helping to change the same old, same old.

I don't get that sense with Clinton.

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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:04 PM
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9. I have noticed this too
His campaign is about what WE can do. Hers is about what SHE can do.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:56 PM
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7. It's not just the chants -- it's the direction of the campaign
I posted this yesterday on another thread, but it's apropos here:

Everyone knows Obama's slogan "Yes, we can." That is empowering -- and it's gotten people involved because they feel they are part of the process for helping themselves.

Go to Hillary's campaign site and the first thing that greets you is "Help make history." The not-so-subtle message there is that she is going to make history and we are going to be her little helpers. It's about her.


There is no sense of empowering the people to better themselves -- the people are only there to help Hillary get into the history books.
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