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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:29 AM
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My views and why I chose Obama.
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 10:41 AM by mmonk
It has become evident to me a corporate revolution has overthrown national sovereignty. It has developed over the last 20 to 40 years and accelerated with the events of 9/11. It made it possible to complete the move. In the new order, the parties have become more muddied. I think McCain and Clinton represent the same interests with slightly different approaches. I also think Obama represents a blend, but less severe. I think if progressives are to have a say so in America going forward, Obama is the best vehicle. I also look at how this democratic primary election has turned and feel my view has been validated.


I believe in restoring our sovereignty of a nation by the people for the people, a democracy movement is critical. That is why I have become a member of most of the entities working towards that goal. I worry about a future where courts and justice are slanted towards corporate rule, especially since one of my sons is learning disabled. I want to leave this earth with some sort of confidence both my sons will have a decent shot at a good life.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:41 AM
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1. We need a changing of the guard!
Thank you for sharing your story :)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:43 AM
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2. Well said.
That's the realistic view I have taken re this election cycle. No rose-colored glasses, just looking for a more open government that respects the citizenry with the truth.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:46 AM
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3. Nail on head
When all the bullshit distractions are stripped away, you accurately describe the stakes and the core issue that drives all otehr issues.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:06 PM
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14. .
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:47 AM
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4. Find out who Obama's campaign staff worked for.
(Only don't immediately scream "Hillary did it, too!" Of course she did. But it's not about HRC and BHO -- look at it dispassionately.)

I'll even give you a freebie -- David Axelrod was one of Exelon Energy's chief PR officers. And then consider that otherwise supporting nuclear energy around here (like Axelrod) can get you verbally lynched.

Obama does not represent a blend or a less-severe version of corporatism, he answers to the very same beast that they all do. He takes corporate money -- but not lobbyist money. Lobbyists, he hires directly. Of course, they have the skills he needs to run his campaign. And that, in itself, is not a crime, or even a Bad Thing.

Instead of accusing everyone and his or her siblings of "corporatism", we ought to concentrate on leashing the beast again, as its OWN issue. We are not going to have a savior who steps in and saves us. WE have to do the stepping-in. WE will have to do the saving, too -- saving the politicians so they can return to the business of conducting our affairs of state in a manner that profits US.

Politicians, no matter how we hate them, do not seek to become corporate toadies, as a rule. They learn that they have no choice. We must insist that it be otherwise, no matter WHO is running for the Presidency.

--p!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:53 AM
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5. Neither candidate is what I would call old style progressive.
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 10:54 AM by mmonk
They are always weeded out early in the process through media access. I therefore had to delve deeper. When I saw people I could accept such as Samantha Power who has a more whole or world view, I made my choice of the remaining candidates. Since the Obama campaign has not been powered with as many of the usual suspects, he would be less beholden to air tight progression of corporate rule IMO.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 11:03 AM
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7. Yes, Obama is part of the syatem --- But I believe he "gets it" and wants to do something
I believe Obama is a moderate, while Clinton is a centrist.

The difference is that centrists see nothing wrong with relying heavily on the corporate sector, and they believe that trying to substantially change things is both unrealistic and unnecessary. They are rowing in a different direction than liberals and progressives, who believe we have to reform the system.

Moderates, like Obama, are trying to row in the same direction as those who are more liberal and progressive. The difference is more of degree and extent of likely change, and the tactics necessary.

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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:58 AM
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6. Thanks for sharing your story!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 11:16 AM
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8. Thank you.
I believe much the same. I think that James Carroll's book "House of War" details the take over of this country by controlling force.

I have had the opportunity to live a life that has been enhanced by the many good things that define our country's best side. I am involved in politics and social activism because I want others, including the next generations, to also have those types of opportunities.

Nominated.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:00 PM
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9. Yes, to strive for social change and getting involved
is the only way to shape things for the better.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:11 PM
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10. I agree completely
Obama is the last hope of the country, Corporatism is entrenched so deeply that all the negative & repeated anti OBama MSM is basically a call to action made possible by the corporations, who in fact own the media.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:18 PM
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11. Control of information is the key to how they
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 01:12 PM by mmonk
came to power. It's how they plan to maintain it. It's how many poor whites vote against their self-interest.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:58 PM
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12. Yep. one expert said empire and democracy cannot co-exsist.
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 12:59 PM by barack the house
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:03 PM
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13. Interesting. A different take on things. Good post. nt
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:27 PM
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15. RE: "...courts and justice are slanted towards corporate rule..."
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 02:35 PM by antigop
Yep. Absolutely.

See
The Supreme Court: Open for Business
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_28/b4042040.htm

With controversial rulings on abortion and campaign finance, the current U.S. Supreme Court has waded into some of the most explosive issues in American politics. Under the leadership of new Chief Justice John G. Roberts, the high court appears to be on the verge of rewriting vast tracts of settled Constitutional law. But there's another important emerging feature of the Roberts Court that has not drawn nearly as much attention: its sympathy to business.


and
Supreme Court,Inc.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/16/magazine/16supreme-t.html

The headquarters of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, located across from Lafayette Park in Washington, is a limestone structure that looks almost as majestic as the Supreme Court. The similarity is no coincidence: both buildings were designed by the same architect, Cass Gilbert. Lately, however, the affinities between the court and the chamber, a lavishly financed business-advocacy organization, seem to be more than just architectural. The Supreme Court term that ended last June was, by all measures, exceptionally good for American business. The chamber’s litigation center filed briefs in 15 cases and its side won in 13 of them — the highest percentage of victories in the center’s 30-year history. The current term, which ends this summer, has also been shaping up nicely for business interests.

I visited the chamber recently to talk with Robin Conrad, who heads the litigation effort, about her recent triumphs. Conrad, an appealing, soft-spoken woman, lives with her family on a horse farm in Maryland, where she rides with a fox-chasing club called the Howard County-Iron Bridge Hounds. Her office, playfully adorned by action figures of women like Xena the Warrior Princess and Hillary Rodham Clinton, has one of the most impressive views in Washington. “You can see the White House through the trees,” she said as we peered through a window overlooking the park. “In the old days, you could actually see people bathing in the fountain. Homeless people.”

Conrad was in an understandably cheerful mood. Though the current Supreme Court has a well-earned reputation for divisiveness, it has been surprisingly united in cases affecting business interests. Of the 30 business cases last term, 22 were decided unanimously, or with only one or two dissenting votes. Conrad said she was especially pleased that several of the most important decisions were written by liberal justices, speaking for liberal and conservative colleagues alike. In opinions last term, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and David Souter each went out of his or her way to question the use of lawsuits to challenge corporate wrongdoing — a strategy championed by progressive groups like Public Citizen but routinely denounced by conservatives as “regulation by litigation.” Conrad reeled off some of her favorite moments: “Justice Ginsburg talked about how ‘private-securities fraud actions, if not adequately contained, can be employed abusively.’ Justice Breyer had a wonderful quote about how Congress was trying to ‘weed out unmeritorious securities lawsuits.’ Justice Souter talked about how the threat of litigation ‘will push cost-conscious defendants to settle.’ ”


Pro-corporate Dems who appoint pro-corporate judges are not good for us.

Personally, I fear a pro-corporate Supreme Court more so than a Supreme Court that would overturn Roe V. Wade. (which is probably considered heresy by some here on DU.)

I am against the DLC because it is pro-corporate and will not support their candidate.

<edit to add> Will Obama "be less beholden to air tight progression of corporate rule"? Well, it looks like he's our only hope this election.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:46 AM
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18. This is a critical area of where we have lost our democracy.
The sheep were fooled into thinking it was about "liberal activist judges" and saving "unborn babies" and making sure our bibles wouldn't be "taken away". But it's about corporate dictatorship through law.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:02 PM
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21. I agree. n/t
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:46 PM
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16. Thanks For Sharing
K&R
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:32 PM
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17. K & R
:thumbsup:
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wrando Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:35 AM
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19.  common desires
But the vehicle to get us there is the dispute.

Hillary or Obama america is split

bill from ct
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:50 AM
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20. Yes and I gave my reasons for my decision.
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wrando Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:11 PM
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22. yes you did
and quite nicely

bill from ct
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