Congratulations on Pennsylvania, but the Clinton supporters still need some perspective.

[TheWraith]

I've been bugged of late by the Clinton supporters lashing out at anybody who tries to point out reality, particularly Keith Olbermann. Just today a Clinton supporter resurrected the NY Post's two-year old smear about KO as a bad-in-bed womanizer just for giggles. What they don't seem to realize is that saying things are basically over for Clinton isn't a sign of bias. It's a sign of fact.

Please, calm down and grab for some reality here. You ready? With the rest of the primary season playing out the way it's expected to, him winning his favored states, her winning her favored states, Obama now needs 43 more superdelegates to win the nomination.

That's assuming no upsets in states like Indiana, favored for Clinton but potentially movable. One thing we've seen for certain is that Clinton can't win outside the states where she starts with a lead--she's only done that once in this entire campaign.

Winning three (really two) big states with small margins doesn't change the fact that you got blown away in all those other states that you insisted didn't count. It's not biased against Clinton, or hateful, or sexist, or any of the other things you've been throwing against those who don't agree that Hillary Clinton is going to win. It's math, it's reality, and it's the truth.

[Jed Dilligan]

1. Thank you!

K.R.

[Benhurst]

2. If you think Clinton's margin of victory in Pennsylvania was small,

you're going to be very disappointed in November no matter who our nominee is. Electoral college "landslides" are often determined by smaller margins.

Our primary system is so flawed there's no telling what the results mean.
And the allocation of delegates often borders on the insane. Both Clinton and Obama have ended up on the short end of the stick when it came to the allocation of delegates in states which they won. I hate to say it, but there may be some truth in our being called the Democrat Party, at least in view of our primaries.

No matter which of the two biggest losers is dragged over the finish line by unelected super delegates, he or she will be entering the general election with a badly divided party.

[Taxmyth]

3. Democratic Primary Rules

That's the only reality that matters. And with FL and MI yet to be determined, anything is possible.

[TheWraith]

4. FL and MI were determined months ago. nt

[SeaLyons]

5. No, open issue...

will remain open until voters and delegates are counted.

[TheWraith]

6. No, it's not.

The state parties were warned. They went ahead anyway. The DNC denied them their delegates as a result. The only people who regard it as somehow not a closed issue are the ones who are trying to change the rules after the fact.

[Taxmyth]

8. Not very democratic then

and disenfranchising FL and MI will cost the Democratic Party support in those States for years to come. Some kind of an accomodation needs to be reached but it probably won't happen until AFTER there is a definitive nominee. There isn't yet.

[TheWraith]

11. Nobody in the real world cares about whether the FL and MI delegates are seated.

It's a bubble issue that only matters in the media and the political junkies.

I agree that they'll probably be seated, after the nominee has been determined. And yeah... actually there is a presumptive nominee. And it'll be more presumptive 42 superdelegates from now.

[SeaLyons]

9. It's open...

It will have to be resolved. Rules or no rules, MI and FL will have to be counted.

[XemaSab]

7. Yesterday math was racist against white people,

today it's sexist. :crazy:

[knixphan]

10. kick for schoolhouse rock math!