***HILLARY TAKES PENNSYLVANIA!***

[Maddy McCall]

CONGRATS, HILLARY!
THANK YOU, PENNSYLVANIA!!








The original thread title was based on Terry McCauliffe's statement. Since I can't verify this, I'm editing to the present title. Trust me, the personal attacks below had no influence on my decision to edit.

[LuckyTheDog]

1. Somehow, I doubt that

We'll see when we get the numbers.

[Road Scholar]

89. She's dead broke. Some win.

[Mizmoon]

96. Don't be a bad sport

A win is a win.

[wisteria]

119. No, in this case a win is actually a loss. She is a loser but no one has the guts to tell her.

So instead they allow her vanity to continue to help the Republicans frame our candidate in the general election- Senator Obama.
Where is the blow out win she needed to justify staying in the race?

[marshall]

102. She doesn't have a chance of winning anything else, so what use is money?

This was her last hurrah (or harumph)!

[rodeodance]

107. you folks been dancing on her grave for months--get a life!

[marshall]

113. The African American exodus will be interesting

if she does wrest the nomination from Obama.

[Chovexani]

123. Please do not purport to speak for black people.

Not all of us have drunk the koolaid, thanks.

[marshall]

136. Actually I was speaking for myself

Referring to my own vantage point and my own opinion.

[Stand and Fight]

148. Thanks for saying that!

As I said in response to the posters, every member of my family is supporting Hillary. Last I checked, we're all African-Americans.

[Stand and Fight]

147. Hogwash.

I'm African-American and Obama has ZERO chance of pulling me away from my support for Hillary UNLESS he gets the nomination. Everyone in my family also supports Hillary. Unlike the whack-jobs here we remember the Clinton years fondly.

[Stand and Fight]

146. Yeah... Some win!

Despite your candidate outspending her 3 to 1 and he still couldn't close the deal. Laughable to say the least.

[Oregone]

2. There is no "popular vote" in a primary process

nt

[itsrobert]

There is on Planet Queen Hillary World

lol

[JoFerret]

67. Hillary for Queen

Obama for prince.

[Mezzo]

43. and the general election is NOT a caucus.

the popular vote matters to the supers, and you know it.

[Oregone]

62. Caucuses are not the primary reason that delegates are used.

Each state wants a proportional say in the presidential contest. Irregularities in the voting process, access to voting stations, primary/caucus formats, open/close contests, media perceptions of landslides, the amount of time candidates can campaign in a state prior to an election, the media's portrayl of the importance of a contest, the voting registration process....etc, etc, etc....

All affects TURNOUT (a concept that is used to show why caucuses aren't represented properly in the "popular tally").

TURNOUT is dependent in primaries on numerous variables that are often uncontrollable to candidates and voters themselves. These variables would skew the state's ability to represent itself (and its constituents) if a popular vote was used. Hence, a delegate count is used to enfranchise the state in the process.

The intresting thing is (despite what Wolf Blitzer may say), SDs know this.

[bridgit]

103. Then...how can Obama be *ahead* in a "popular vote" that does not exist?

[emilyg]

3. So happy. Go Hillary.

[LisaM]

4. Really?

That would be fantastic.

[William769]

5. K&R!

"but she is dividing the party!". Yea right!

[shadowknows69]

6. Oh really

She made up that million she was down? Obama didn't get any votes? What color is the sky on your world?

[Windy]

7. Wow, you're delusional! The total votes aren't counted yet!

its not going to be double digits.

You need to go back to elementary mathematics.

[high density]

8. Where's the popular vote from the caucuses?

What a bullshit metric.

[aquart]

39. I thought the caucuses were designed to circumvent the popular vote.

[gabeana]

9. So she won by 800,000 votes

thats amazing

[LTR]

10. She needs over 700K

keep dreaming

[Zachstar]

11. She gets over 800 thousand net?

[cui bono]

12. Numbers? n/t

And that means nothing except to the Clinton campaign so that they can have one more try at changing the rules midstream.

[Zuiderelle]

13. Yay Hillary!

[The Ghost]

14. Why are you repeating why McAuliffe said?

cause hes DEAD WRONG

[tridim]

18. Apparently the talking points have been issued.

[rodeodance]

110. Rove only issues them to Obama fans

[gateley]

15. Congrats Hillary AND Supporters!

You can FEEL the change of energy in the pundits! Hold on, everyone!

GREAT pic by the way, Maddy!

[Warren DeMontague]

16. On what planet? nt

[mrJJ]

17. Check you math

err she gonna get 1 million votes more than Obama out of PA? Dont thinks so

[Schema Thing]

19. That's a great pic

although if it was of a man, I might think he was drunk, happy, and peeing.

[tekisui]

20. Doubt it.

And she still is far behind in Pledged Delegates.

[Zhade]

21. Uh, you might want to recheck your math.

(Oh, and it's decided by delegates. She's still not going to get the nom, but keep dreaming - Obama will be the nom once you wake up.)

[BeyondGeography]

22. Pass the bong already

[Austinitis]

23. !AWESOME!

We're going to win this thing.

[Ioo]

24. Ummm, there is NOTHING out there that shows that...

Are you making it up?

[Swamp Rat]

25. Crawfish for everyone!

Congrats Maddy!

[JasonHill]

26. Provide Evidence for your claim

otherwise you're spreading propaganda because of a character deficiency

[longship]

27. What a f***cking ridiculous post!!!

Let's see... a few percent of the votes are counted and nobody is predicting the final split...

This is just another flame bait post. One can always tell by the large fonts and the huge, inflated pronouncements.

Why don't you just sit back, relax, have a beer or two--or a Martini or two--and enjoy the night instead of flaming the GD-P forums with your speculations.

[The Ghost]

34. FUCKING HELL

No post on this board has irritated me more than this one! UGH! Its an outright lie. Talk about drinking the McAuliffe kool-aid. Drink up

[Rockholm]

81. Not as stupid as all the Obama posts. Get real.

[Yossariant]

28. Obama's fans don't care about the votes of the PEOPLE. They want a coronation.

[anigbrowl]

37. Right, that's why Clinton collected all those SDs before a single vote was cast.

I have no problem with Hillary winning PA, since she was always expected to do so. But I think that when everyone has voted, he'll still be ahead.

[Zhade]

41. clinton fans apparently CAN'T COUNT.

NT!

[Auntie Bush]

66. And they don't want FL and WI voters to count.

[Zhade]

126. True. We don't support cheating, unlike you.

NT!

[cascadiance]

139. I think they want Wisconsin votes to count, just not the "Saddam Hussein" style slate in Michigan!

Trying to rationalize that someone wins a popular vote when they run unopposed, or the opposition doesn't campaign is ignoring reality.

[anigbrowl]

29. How do you make that out? Numbers don't agree

Extrapolating from CNN with ~10% of the votes in, she might get 150,000 more votes tonight. That's less than Obama's lead even with Florida and Michigan included (per Real clear politics, and if you have to rely on her Michigan votes to boost her #s, that's sad).

[godai]

30. No, a 55/45 win gains 200,000 votes

Obama would still lead by 500,000. This is based on 50% turnout, 2 million votes.

[Aloha Spirit]

31. Awesome photo!

[gcomeau]

32. Which alternate universe are you posting from? -nt

[aquart]

33. I'll wait for the full count.

I've had my heart broken before.

[Zhade]

44. It'll be broken again. The math doesn't add up.

She's still behind.

[cliffordu]

35. It's unfortunate you don't know what you're talking about...

you should have continued to listen.....McCauliff then had to qualify it with a ton of what ifs...she won't pull ahead.

That's alright, though. Specious untruths is what you specialize in.

She needs 70% of the rest of the delegates.....


Vote Hillary!!

[Spiffarino]

131. Nice photo

We'd better get used to it. Hillary just threatened to nuke Iran if Israel is attacked, and of course McCain would push The Button if somebody criticized his comb-over.

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

36. Maddy, Maddy, Maddy

1 & 1 still equals 2. She will not be close in the popular vote. Are you another girl who says she can't do math. I fight that all the time with my sixth grade girls. They believe that because that is what their parents tell them that math isn't for girls. I explain to them that that is a sexist statement and girls can do math just as well as boys.

Add up the numbers she will not be ahead.

[cboy4]

59. "Are you another girl who says she can't do math?"

Yes, you're correct. Very sexist.

[Yael]

38. Math isn't your strong suit, is it.

Bless your heart.

[mikekohr]

40. Senator Clinton is Down 827,308 in the popular vote tally before PA

here is the link: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/...

If she makes that up in PA, wild, leather winged, flaming monkeys, from hell will fly out of my ass.


mike kohr

[Blue-Jay]

42. She's currently about 20K votes ahead with 10% reporting.

[Occam Bandage]

45. Popular vote? On what planet?

[mikekohr]

53. Heranus

[Tinksrival]

91. Ha!

[quakerboy]

46. Wow.

I disagree with your assertions often. But this is the first time I can recall seeing you just out and out lie.

[mdmc]

47. A W E S O M E !!!

Bring the party down NOW!

[KansasVoter]

48. Maddy, math is hard for you.

[longship]

49. Reminds me of GWB in 2000.

Let's see... a few percent of the votes are counted and nobody is predicting the final split...

This is just another flame bait post. One can always tell by the large fonts and the huge, inflated pronouncements.

Why don't you just sit back, relax, have a beer or two--or a Martini or two--and enjoy the night instead of flaming the GD-P forums with your speculations.

[RBInMaine]

50. Only if she wins by over 800,000 votes. Won't happen.

[Neverarepublican]

51. Maddy can I please have some of what your smoking?

[bigwillq]

52. I don't think so.

Do you have the math to prove that?

[Dinger]

54. Thanks For Posting Maddy : )

I love that picture!

[cboy4]

55. What a festive post Maddy

And I love the photo you selected.


on edit...correction regarding popular vote lead, as per update in OP.

[Occam Bandage]

57. Except, you know, she's still behind in the popular vote. But hey, don't let that stop ya.

[cboy4]

90. Corrected per change in the OP.

[JasonHill]

56. So there isnt any source evidence for the claim?

If so, you only show everyone here your character when you insult them by lying. Nobody can trust anything you say because of your conscious spreading of disinformation.

[Austinitis]

60. RCP: She only needs 100,000 votes (6% will do that, easy. Less w/high turnout)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/...

[Zhade]

71. That's factually inaccurate. He's leading by 800,000.

Keep dreaming!

[Austinitis]

75. Hard truth: You used to have a clear Obama lead

and now you've got muddy water. Tonight breathes new life into the Hillary camp. We can bring the popular vote to the fore, and we can win this game.

[JasonHill]

83. There isnt any muddy water

because the only votes that are legitimate are those that are cast legally within the process where all parties agreed to rules before hand. The only people who argue that the water is muddy are those with a political agenda to push one candidate over another.

[Austinitis]

101. Go listen to FOX news. They have Hillary people on right now pushing this

It's going to matter.

And everyone here has an agenda.

[JasonHill]

121. That doesn't change it's illegitimacy

nor does Fox News echoing a talking point change Dem primary regulations already pre-established and agreed upon by everyone. If Hillary cannot win within the pre-established rules she agreed to and with her lack of being able to show a shift towards a rejection of Obama, i think this angle only hurts the Dem Party as a whole by working to push voters out of the party from those states by trying to foster animosity by having it displaced at Obama when both states violated the rules.

[Zhade]

127. Keep dreaming, Obama will be the nominee when you wake up.

NT!

[MattBaggins]

134. Sorry but no new life

We just went into "Weekend at Bernies VII" is all.

[Olney Blue]

58. Congratulations, Senator Clinton!

Nice pic, Maddy.

[AZBlue]

61. THERE. IS. NO. POPULAR. VOTE. Your desperation shows every time you say there is.

[babylonsister]

63. You lie, but I'm not surprised. The numbers aren't in yet.

Bye, Maddie. You've sunk too low. See ya.

[matcom]

64. you are such a fucking nasty liar

[Colobo]

65. She is not ahead in the popular vote. FL and MI don't count.

[Zhade]

72. She wouldn't even be ahead if they DID.

NT!

[uponit7771]

68. Can you count? Jus askin

[Catherina]

69. Math Maddy. It's not just for boys anymore. n/t

[Thepricebreaker]

70. OMG WHAT THE F*CK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOUR TOTALLY OUT OF TOUCH...

[Austinitis]

105. I'm using your reply to bump this up again.

[Skittles]

135. it's "YOU'RE" n/t

[Starbucks Anarchist]

73. Congratulations!

[bigwillq]

74. Thanks for editing.

Good move.

[Maddy McCall]

79. Yeah, I heard it on TV while I was cooking jambalaya tonight...

and posted it...then realized I hadn't verified it...just didn't feel comfortable leaving it as it was.

Thanks!

[bigwillq]

Thanks for editing.

A good move. Gotta get the facts right.

[uponit7771]

76. She did good

[RBInMaine]

77. And this is news??

[avrdream]

78. Good music over at HRC campaign headquarters, y'all.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

80. It's a well earned win for Clinton

Congrats

[Cooley Hurd]

82. Congratulations Senator Clinton on your win of PA!

Post-edit, of course.

[underpants]

84. Yes Congratulations

[Gore1FL]

85. Good for Hillary!

Now she can leave on a positive note, assuming she has the political savvy I think she has.

[FlyingSquirrel]

86. Ten Things to Remember on Tuesday Night

Ten Things to Remember on Tuesday Night

[Austinitis]

88. The main thing I'm going to remember is the reaming Obama got. n/t

[Zhade]

128. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! 6 points (20 less than expected weeks ago) is a reaming?

You guys really are desperate!

[DearAbby]

87. Have they counted Pittsburgh?

Congrats Clinton supporters

[Austinitis]

92. The have exit polls from there

and Obama isn't winning by enough of a margin.

[Austinitis]

93. They have exit polls

and I think that Obama wasn't polling well enough to make up for the rest of the state (he was winning, but only by about 8%).

[Maddy McCall]

94. up!

[chascarrillo]

95. ***HILLARY OBLITERATES PENNSYLVANIA!***

[rodeodance]

104. GROW up---you are so RUDE and IMMATURE!!

[chascarrillo]

111. "Why do I always get the first question?"

[rodeodance]

114. *****Hillary the leader and obama the "I agree with HIllary: follower!!

[chascarrillo]

116. Haven't heard Obama calling for the obliteration of Iran, but I haven't checked the news tonight.

[smalll]

97. BOOYAH!

That's Our Girl!

[Raffi Ella]

144. !

Wooooooooooooooo!

[rodeodance]

98. REC

[Bensthename]

99. Enjoy it while you can. It is all down hill for Clinton after today.

[rodeodance]

100. ***THANKS FOR THE LOVELY PHOTO**** IS THAT HER TONIGHT??

[JasonHill]

106. Thanks for editing

You did the right thing. Good for you

[BlueIdaho]

108. This Obama supporter

Congratulates Hillary on her victory tonight.

[Austinitis]

115. Thank You!

[ecstatic]

109. Nice pic, but what exactly are you celebrating?

The Goddess of War wants to start a nuclear holocaust and she hates and rejects democratic activists. She's a fearmonger and a warmonger.

She also lies to our face (along with her husband) whenever she can get away with it.

These are not the values that we fought so hard for over the past 7+ years. If the Goddess somehow becomes the nominee, the party will be fractured beyond repair.

Again, what are you celebrating?

[mdmc]

112. HORRAY!!!!

[OzarkDem]

117. WOO-HOO!!!!!

[wisteria]

118. Not by much. And I am extremely disappointed in my fellow Pa'ers who didn't have the guts to vote

honest and real change. Instead, they allowed the Democratic machine controlled by Rendell to lie to them.

[Chovexani]

124. So Pennsylvanians are gutless morons and cowards

Duly noted.

[Zhade]

129. No, just the ones who voted for a proven compulsive liar (Tuzla will not be forgotten).

NT!

[zabet]

120. That is an awesome pic!

and Rec'd

[Ronnie]

122. If all the mean comments up thread are true,

why are you upset enough to say them so spitefully on a congratulatory thread? I smell fear.

[Zhade]

125. ORIGINAL (NOW EDITED) TITLE: "WITH WIN, CLINTON NOW HOLDS POPULAR VOTE LEAD"

Just wanted to correct the OP's dishonest attempt to change the original thrust of this thread.

[Bitten]

141. omigosh every revison is a lie, huh? we'll let's hold everyone to that standard

starting with Barry. Ouch!

[cwydro]

130. YES!

and again, YES!

[Catchawave]

132. Congratulations Hillary and her supporters !

Nice photo, thanks for posting. She gave an amazing speech tonigh.

[LulaMay]

133. WHOOOO-HOOOO!

[TankLV]

137. YES! YES! YES! GREAT NEWS!

CONGRATULATIONS HILLARY...!!!

what a bunch of DELUSIONAL sore losers the obamabots are this morning!!!

I figured they would be bad, but they are really RIDICULUOUS...

it must suck to be them...

[SIMPLYB1980]

138. K&R!

Great news!

[stillrockin]

140. yuck, just yuck

[Raffi Ella]

142. .Yes Yes YES!!!

THANK YOU Pennsylvania!!!! and CONGRATULATIONS to the future MADAM PRESIDENT! WOoooooooooooooooo!

[barb162]

143. What a great day for Hillary!!! Just wonderful!

And a great day for the Democratic Party.

[Stand and Fight]

145. Recommended with gusto!

Because I am growing all-too sick of the ultra-rude Obama folks on here. I've held my tongue for a long time. Now even though HRC has won, they cannot be gracious. They're still being jerks -- even though they were all so sure Hillary would lose. Well, a pox on them. Love the post Maddy!