Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Why do pollsters include Nader...?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:33 AM
Original message
Why do pollsters include Nader...?
I wonder if pollsters will continue to include Nader in their nationwide surveys? Now that he is denied the Green nomination and access on ballots in 22 states he only is on ballot, thanks to the dying Reform Party, in (I think) 12 states--and will have to fight hard in the next few months to get on ballot in 38 other states. To me, at this point it would make more sense to include David Cobb in their surveys since he is the Green nominee and already on ballot in more states than Nader.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:35 AM
Response to Original message
1. Good question. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. yep
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #1
9. Sure is. Seeing Nader reported in the polls helps Nader.
It skews the polls. It's the best possible kind of free advertising for Nader. The media is doing the country a disservice.

They are conflating the idea of newsworthiness and "poll-worthiness." If they are just going to include candidates based on their controversy or notoriety, they should just say right at the top of the poll: "We included Nader because he sells papers."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mike L Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. exactly right. Hopefully, this will end with his rejection by the Greens.
If not, it must end when he can't get on the ballots of most states as an Independent candidate. He won't be a national candidate, so he can't be included in national polls. However, you can bet that the Republican commissioned polls will continue to include him (which will invalidate their polls).

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bugslsu9 Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 12:07 PM
Response to Original message
2. Can Someone Tell Me
How many ballots Nader is actually on? I heard he is having a hard time getting on the ballot in Oregon, and, quite frankly, if he can't get on there, he has problems.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 12:27 PM
Response to Original message
4. I makes Bush's numbers look better IMHO
They can say that the race is tied with Bush's 45% to Kerry's 44% and Nader's 5%. Later they say in a two way match it is Kerry at 49% and Bush at 46%. But the head line usually says Bush is leading or the race is a toss up and Kerry can't get any traction even though Bush is having trouble.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 12:35 PM
Response to Original message
5. Nader spoiled in two states, and came close in three more.
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2000/2000presge.htm

spoiled:
Florida
New Hampshire

came close:
Iowa
New Mexico
Wisconsin
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 03:28 PM
Response to Original message
6. Why not?
:)
 Add to my Journal Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
7. Why not include the Libertarian candidate in the polls too?
That's what I always wonder.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. I think it's probably because
Edited on Tue Jun-29-04 04:40 PM by bitchkitty
the Libertarian candidate is an actual candidate; that is, he's not running to take votes away from anyone, he's running to win votes and get his point across. Not so Mr. Nader.

I'm so glad the Greens dumped Nader. If I ever change my registration, it will be to Green!

Edit: sorry, clicked too soon. The powers that be don't want the Libertarians getting an actual voice - they siphon votes from the right and help the Democrats, and God knows we can't have that! </sarcasm>

At least that's my take on it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 04:49 PM
Response to Original message
10. I wouldn't mind IF...
IF the pollsters included Cobb, the Libertarian candidate, the Constitution Party candidate and maybe a couple others. THEN let's see what the results turn out to be. I'd bet they'd all have surprisingly high support. And it would show that very few of them, Nader included, are likely to get anywhere close to their polling numbers right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mike L Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. Yeah, include the Constitution Party candidate.
Take some right-wing fundamentalists away from Bush.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug 30th 2014, 02:33 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC