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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:47 AM
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Hillary Clinton Working Her Heart Out for Pennsylvanians



Hillary Clinton implored Pennsylvanians yesterday to think about the nation's trade and debt burdens, the growth of China, and the restive Middle East when they vote in the state's pivotal primary, perhaps her last chance to stall Barack Obama's reach for the Democratic nomination.

Clinton spoke under a baking sun outside West Chester, Pa.'s 175-year-old fire house, striking a somber note about problems at home and abroad as she described the stakes for voters Tuesday.

In West Chester, Clinton talked of plans for improving the economy, expanding education funding, cracking down on China trade policy and creating jobs.





As the sound of a power lug wrench across the street at Dave's Automobile Repair Enterprises began to loudly whirr, Clinton discussed research initiatives for the nation's ailing car industry and a weaning on the dependence of foreign oil.

"This is such an important election," she said. "I don't want to just show up and give one of these whoop-de-doo speeches and just kind of get everybody whipped up, and those who are for me feel great and try to convince some of you to be for me. I want everybody thinking about what we have to do starting Tuesday."






“We have got to realize that our future really depends upon who the next president is,” she said. “This is not a throwaway election. This is one of the most important elections we’ve ever faced.”

"The wealthy and the well-connected have had a President. George Bush has been fighting for more tax breaks for the oil companies," Senator Clinton said, "So I think it's about time we had a president again who would fight for you."

"So I'm ready to roll up my sleeves and get to work for you, but of course, I have to win," Clinton said. "And that really depends upon what happens on Tuesday in the Pennsylvania primary. Pennsylvanians have a tremendous opportunity to help pick the next president, and I'm asking for your support and vote."






And in a high school gym in West Lawn, Clinton cast herself as a fighter, saying “the job of a leader is to bring people together to solve problems, but to understand that sometimes we have to fight to get the political will and the votes to make that happen.”

Clinton said the country needs someone “who can withstand the incredible pressures of a political campaign, which believe me, when you get into the general election, and when you get into the White House, the stresses and pressures of the general election and the job are overwhelming. And we know that we’ve got to have a president ready on day one to take charge.”





Early in her speech Saturday afternoon, Sen. Hillary Clinton referred to the last time she was in York.

"I can close my eyes and envision the Central Market," Clinton said.

She was standing on a platform at Beaver and Market streets in York, mere yards from the Central Market. About 800 people were there to see her, gathered in a cordoned-off area ringed by metal barricades, security guards and bleachers crowded with TV cameras.





That evocation of her last visit was more than a simple attempt at shared nostalgia with the crowd. It tied in to a theme she brought up a number of times during her 30-minute talk.

It was in 1992. Her husband had just won the nomination as presidential candidate at the Democratic convention in New York City.

The Clintons, along with vice-presidential candidate Al Gore and his wife, Tipper, stopped by York to kick off a campaign bus tour.




Clinton recalled her husband's two terms as an era of peace and prosperity for the United States, ending with a budget surplus. And she pledged to bring the country back to that path, from one she presented as increasingly disastrous.

"I think there's a historical pattern here," Clinton said.

Speaking in California, Pa., Saturday evening, Sen. Hillary Clinton was rich with political metaphors comparing politics to driving. Clinton used a refrain she has before, saying our country is on the wrong course. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/drivers-educati.html)





"If you want to go forward you put (the car) in D; if you want to go backwards you put it in R," she said, before turning to the economic prosperity her husband delivered. "My husband was a pretty good driver."

Clinton then had an analogy for the Republican frontrunner.

"Sen. McCain is a colleague and a friend of mind," she said. "I deeply respect his service to our country. But he has the wrong ideas. I believe he wouldn’t be steering the car in the right direction."

Clinton never spoke about what kind of driver she would be, nor did she mention how she thought her Democratic opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, would drive a car.





The Erie Times-News spoke with Hillary Clinton by phone Saturday on her way from Reading to York as she campaigned in eastern Pennsylvania. (excerpts) :

Sen. Clinton: "I have a lot of fondness for Erie. I remember very well that '92 bus trip (to Erie with Bill Clinton, then-vice presidential nominee Al Gore and his wife, Tipper Gore). I also feel like we have a lot in common with Erie in it being similar to many of the communities that I'm, you know, working hard for in New York right across the border. So, no, I ... wasn't thinking about him. I was just thinking about the great people I've met as I've traveled across the state.

Q Senator, you and Senator Obama are alike on many of the issues confronting Americans. So for undecided voters in Pennsylvania, are they supposed to base their vote on Senator Obama's former pastor or Bosnian sniper fire or other issues that won't shape our country's future?

A I hope that every voter in Erie and across Pennsylvania thinks about this election as a hiring decision. Who would you hire for the toughest job in the world? Who would you hire to turn the economy around and start creating jobs again, and give us quality, affordable health care, and make sure college is afford-able and get us out of Iraq and so much more? And if you look at what I've done for 35 years and the results I've produced from Arkansas to the White House to New York, I think that Pennsylvanians can be comfortable that they can count on me to be the commander-in-chief and to be the president and to fight for you and fight for your futures.





Q Senator, during the debate you said that Senator Obama could defeat Senator McCain and Senator Obama said that you could defeat Senator McCain. So for the Democratic Party, doesn't an Obama-Clinton or a Clinton-Obama ticket make sense?

"Well, I said that he could, but I think I will. Um, I believe I'm better positioned to do that and a stronger candidate. And once we get to figure out who the nominee is, we'll be able to determine what the ticket should be. But I'm going to do everything I can to make sure we win in November. We cannot afford four more years of the same failed policies in Iraq and on the economy."

"I know the problems in Erie, because I've been working hard on them as a senator from New York right across the border. As president, I will get to work immediately to solve those problems, to get the economy moving again, to attract and keep good jobs, to move toward quality, affordable health care, to get us out of Iraq the right way, to be a president and a commander-in-chief, who number one, knows where Erie, Pennsylvania is, cares about Erie, Pennsylvania, cares about the entire commonwealth, and will get up every day and go to work and work my heart out for you."



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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:52 AM
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1. Has anyone ever been to Erie?
It is a dump, thanks to the Clinton and Bush administrations and NAFTA
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:54 AM
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2. Precisely, as is the ENTIRE state of MICHIGAN!!!!!! n/t
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:24 PM
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29. Clinton's Most Favored Trade Status to China(despite Dem Opposition) played a major role :
Clinton Proposes Renewing China's Most-Favored Trade Status

Congressional reaction mixed amidst larger China policy issues

WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, June 3) -- President Bill Clinton on Wednesday proposed renewing most-favored-nation (MFN) trade status for China, saying it was "clearly in our nation's interest" as he urged Congress to support the request.

Most-favored-nation status offers low tariffs and treats countries as normal trading partners.

-snip
House Speaker Newt Gingrich welcomed Clinton's recommendation for renewing MFN status for China, and vowed to work in a bipartisan manner to ensure that China receives it from Congress.

-snip

House Democratic leader Richard Gephardt issued a statement Wednesday opposing Clinton's plan to extend China's trading status for another year.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/06/03/china.trade/



CLINTON FLIP-FLOPPED AND IN THE END HE CAVED IN TO THE LOBBYISTS:

Alarmed by Clinton's original insistence on linking trade to human rights, corporate lobbyists launched a massive campaign in 1994 which succeeded in reversing Clinton's position. "The result," observed the New York Times, "has been an extraordinary struggle pitting executives against former torture victims and prison camp survivors and persecuted Christians in a competition to win the attention of Congress and the Administration."

"In the final weeks leading up to . . . Clinton's decision to grant most-favored-nation trading status to China, Washington was swarming with lobbyists pushing MFN," stated the Legal Times. "The advocates ranged from an ad hoc group of two dozen major US companies to the Emergency Committee for American Trade (ECAT), a group of 60 chairmen and chief executives of US-owned exporters. . . . Among the lobbyists taking part were R. D. Folsom, a vice president at the D.C. lobby shop R. Duffy Wall and Associates, who represents the Footwear Distributors and Retailers of America; Michael Daniels, a partner in the D.C. office of the New York law firm Mudge Rose Guthrie Alexander & Ferdon; and Mark McConnell and Warren Maruyama, partners at the D.C. law firm Hogan & Hartson."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Mandarins_and_Moguls_Unite_for_China's_Most-Favored_Nation_Status
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:56 AM
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3. Hillary Clinton, working her heart out for Hillary. nt
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:00 AM
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4. This is something you just had to point out to me?
. . .or, is this just to get laughs here, like impressing your friends in a jr. high school cafeteria?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:09 AM
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8. No, imo it's the truth; her previous actions are proof. I can
see where's she's coming from even if you can't. It's not about PA or anywhere else, it's about her and her political ambitions. That wouldn't be a bad thing if I didn't find it so damaging to our party and any chance we might have of winning the GE. Her show of support for McCain was the cherry on top.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:47 AM
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21. Americans, outside of this vicious little bubble here that pretends to be wise
. . . aren't buying the sore loser act from Obama supporters' epic pout over their delayed coronation. Millions of Americans are anxious to weigh in and make their choice in this election. In Pa. it doesn't look like the voters there are buying the line about Hillary 'destroying the party'. And, the little less than half of the voters between the candidates who voted for Hillary Clinton aren't buying it either. They'd probably like to know where you folks get off calling the election for Obama since he can't win the nomination by votes cast alone; not withstanding the rest of the votes yet to be cast. That's as destructive as anything else. The disrespect of those voters in the constant harping on their candidate, Clinton to quit is stunning.

And, you talk about her political ambition as if Obama was a babe in the woods to political maneuvering, pandering, and whatever he could do to rise to the top of the political ladder, ahead of folks who had been in the trenches. What a joke. The sick thing is how there's all this talk about how there's going to be some new kind of politics, but there's just the same old, us and them mentality from Obama's side.

It's amazing how disconnected folks can become from the effects of their own campaigning. You think that you candidate is infallible, but he's just another middle of the road, Democratic pol, and, he'll operate that way when he gets into office. He'll rely on the same folks that a Clinton administration would to succeed, only he'll start from a position where he's openly castigated Democrats for 'failed politics'.

Obama's essentially blamed his own party for 'fighting' the republicans on issues that he promises to 'work with' those same obstructionists. That's a recipe for centrism, not the progressive politics his supporters pretend he represents. Voters are smart enough to know that, and have stalled him on the way to his coronation. They're the party, and they want this race to continue. It's about them, whether you realize that or not from within this pro-Obama echo chamber. Hillary Clinton obviously does.

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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:14 PM
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28. You said that really, really well.
I again want to express my appreciation for the campaign pieces you put on DU. In addition, I want to thank you for taking such a sane, adult stance against some of the bullying that goes on around here. I hope you stick around.

:hug:
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LibGranny Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:47 PM
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31. Shillary has a heart?
Who knew?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:39 AM
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50. you ask who knows?---Wise people do. Not immature name-calling folks.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:24 PM
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36. As opposed to all other politicians
:eyes:
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:06 AM
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5. I want to see my elected officials working for me in government
and not just for my votes come election years
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:07 AM
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6. duh
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:11 AM
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9. Your headline shouldn't be a spin job if you agree
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:14 AM
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11. It's a reference to her promise to work her heart out for Pennsylvanians if elected
That's no more or less than what her rival has promised.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:07 AM
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7. Headline should read
Clinton working Pennsylvanias heart out for herself.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:12 AM
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10. That would apply to Obama as well, then
But, both candidates have been working hard promoting and elevating the needs and concerns of voters in this campaign.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:18 AM
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17. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
pgh_dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:47 PM
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41. Fonzie grab your waterskis....
A 'devout follower' of Kadaffi? Keeeerist.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:05 PM
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42. Do a little research, chum..
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ecdab Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:15 AM
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better put a stake in it while it out
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 11:15 AM by ecdab
- sorry, I couldn't resist.

These are great threads that you post BigTree.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:46 AM
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52. Reference is violence!! Not even funny
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:15 AM
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12. She's working her heart out for McCain
that's really what it comes down to. The longer she stays in this race, the more it benefits the Repubs. It's always been Hillary first, the party second.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:15 AM
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13. Bless her heart
She is working her behind off and I do admire her determination but it is not to be this time. America is ready to move on and Obama, in the most remarkable campaign I have seen in my 62 years, will be our nominee. Go Obama!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:16 AM
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14. This is a great post - you always find the best pics! Love the silhouettes.
She is helping to rally up the Pennsylvanians, and that is always a good thing.

I love the bit about McCain driving the car in the wrong direction. Just about a perfect smackdown as you can get...
Hillary's wit is sharp - and if the target is not a dem, it is a valuable bit of our party's arsenal.

Sweet!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:04 PM
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23. Pennsylvania's been a good incubator for the issues we can propel into the general
well represented by both candidates :thumbsup:
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:45 PM
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48. You are right about that. I wish we had more on class, poverty and infrastructure issues...
Stupid media keeps us mired in Wright and Bosnia and other like BS for both our candidates, while giving McBush3.0 a pass.

When Hillary and Barack go speak to - and WITH - the people, we get GREAT questions from REAL people.
All the difference in the world.

Please keep up the great work, it is inspiring and healing for us to inject positivity into our conversation.
Many more people see your threads than respond, so the good you do is bigger than just responses.

:toast:
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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:16 AM
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15. you mean "working her heart out for their votes"
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 11:16 AM by dano81818
she's not doing a damned thing for pennsylvanians.

and as soon as she gets what she needs from them she'll vanish until she needs them again.

the most accurate statement i have heard in a long time is "the clintons are always there when they need you."

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:41 AM
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51. And Obama 'is working his heart out for their votes" bowling in PA
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:17 AM
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16. Hopefully when she or Obama win we can unite the party.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:15 PM
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24. the party will unite behind our nominee
against the certain threat of McCain.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:52 PM
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25. Only if...
The nominee we choose is the one who ends up with the most pledged delegates and the most popular vote.

I'm fully prepared to support Hillary under those circumstances; but as an Obama supporter, I'm assuming he's got the nomination. A brokered convention which pits the SuperD's against the will of the pledged/popular would be the opposite of unity - in fact, IMO we would not only lose the GE, but very possibly our majority on The Hill. That's how fractured our party would become. Thankfully, I'm 99% sure the SD's will not let that happen.

BTW bigtree, though we are in opposing camps in the primaries - I give ya kudos for keeping your Hillary posts positive and promoting your choice well - good pics. DU is a rough place for Hil supporters, but we need folks with your tenacity this fall to fight the pukes!

peace~:)
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:10 PM
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26. I'm hard on the SDs, despite the hoops Clinton might need them to jump through
I took that stance early and I'm sticking to it. I don't expect anything outrageous from them, though. Everyone should calm down. The voters will ultimately decide this thing. And, these late primaries aren't just beauty contests set there for our entertainment.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:18 AM
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18. A whole 800 poeple at the Central Market??? Cool!!!!
:rofl: :rofl:
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:21 AM
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19. I can't get past her unpinned lapels.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:32 AM
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20. What was the date HRC suddenly began running on "my husband's administration"?
Now it's Bill this and Bill that....Bill did it and so will I. She's even lost her sense of self. Once again..who's candidacy is this?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:50 AM
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22. The day before Obama began to trash the last Democratic administration.
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:10 PM
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27. "I will swim in the sewer for you!"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:51 PM
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45. Your post stinks like a sewer
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:19 PM
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53. another rapier wit for Hillary.
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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:34 PM
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30. Great pictures.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:53 PM
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32. and she will do just that. Thanks
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:55 PM
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33. another outstanding OP by bigtree
what a great talent you are
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:01 PM
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34. Sounds like she would make a good candidate for mayor of Erie.
Naaaaw...Erie's probably "too liberal" for her.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:23 PM
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35. apparently not
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:30 PM
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37. Well, as Bob Dylan so succinctly put it....
“Now, the man on the stand he wants my vote,
He's a-runnin' for office on the ballot note.
He's out there preachin' in front of the steeple,
Tellin' me he loves all kinds-a people.
(He's eatin' bagels
He's eatin' pizza
He's eatin' chitlins
He's eatin' bullshit!)”

Bob Dylan

Though, I must say, the antics of the candidates in this election have lost all their usual entertainment value and crossed the line into just plain silly.

Preachers?
Cleavage?
Wimp?
Cackle?
Scary Communists from the '60s?
Bowling?
Shots and beers?

Change silly to boring.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:39 PM
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38. that's just what the sensationalists and shitstirrers have focused on
That represents a fraction of what these candidates have represented on the trail. I try and post the meat, but all folks want is the sauce.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:42 PM
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39. Put some mayo and turkey on her, she's
TOAST!!! :nuke:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:08 PM
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43. As I see it, we have 2 moderates with few differences.
So, they resort shit-slinging in an attempt to differentiate themselves. Neither threaten the establishment, both make vague promises, both indulge in politics as usual.

I expect, whoever gets it, will do the usual "not as bad as" dance.

But, I fully expect that either would beat McLooney handily.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:46 PM
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44. as usual
You've got it just right. The voters chose two centrists. The new voters who make up the winning difference want progressive politics. Who would deliver? Who knows?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:56 PM
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47. The American electorate is resistant to change.
The only time it really occurs is in times of crisis. Despite, IMO, several on the horizon - economic, foreign policy, environmental - of massive proportions, they haven't hit home yet.

Until they do, the public will be lulled into non-participation by seeing their civic duty done by pulling lever, punching a card, or mailing in their ballots and vainly hope that some new "leader" will put out the fires they've ignored.

When the crises do hit, then they'll demand change, real change.

As Tip O'Neil said, "All politics is local."
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:46 PM
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40. As much as I dislike Clinton I have to K&R for you for another very fair post bigtree
As always, thanks for your balanced coverage of things.

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:51 PM
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46. Heart Burn
this is agonizing.

At least it wasn't stolen from her.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:38 AM
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49. Luv the pics--esp the one in the town square
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