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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 09:48 AM
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Zogby: Bush gains advantage in electoral vote 285-253
Zogby said that Bush had a "good last two weeks" beginning with the good will generated by the Reagan memorial and positive economic news and now leads Kerry in the electoral college 285-253. Previously Kerry was leading 296-242.

Zogby says that Bush gained the lead in four states: Florida, Michigan (!), Nevada and West Virginia while Kerry gained the lead in only one--Arkansas.

Zogby says that Kerry's selection of a VP and performance at the convention will be critical.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=836
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 09:49 AM
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1. How the fuck is * ahead in Michigan???
:shrug:
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Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 01:03 PM
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10. That won't last after Iacoca endorsed Kerry
I hope.

How the hell can a strong union state prefer Bush?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 09:54 AM
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2. Don't bother with these polls
It's like weighing yourself every day when you are on a diet...it'll drive you crazy. Things move up and down on a short term basis...but the fact is events are on our side...so just keep your eye on the long term picture.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 09:55 AM
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3. Why would anyone in Nevada vote for * when he wants to
put all that radioactive pollution there? Same with California. How many times do the people have to be screwed over before they change their vote????
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 09:57 AM
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4. Polls fluctuate, but
Zogby is right: in an election this close, never was a VP choice more crucial. I pray it's Edwards myself.
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moez Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 11:18 AM
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9. If Edwards were at the top of the ticket
We wouldn't have any reason to sweat right now... If nothing else, Reagan was proof that personality plays in politics - and Kerry doesn't measure up.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 09:57 AM
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5. This was the interactive poll, not Zogby's regular poll
Can someone explain the difference in Zogby's two polls?
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:42 PM
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13. Interactive is done through the internet
and is not scientifically conducted. While his regular polls are done the traditional way, over phone using scientific methods.

The results of the Interactive polls do nothing but take up bandwith.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 10:01 AM
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6. Polls have come out in Ohio and Florida
since the Zogby poll that are very good for Kerry.
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GRClarkesq Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 10:04 AM
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7. Many states within margin or error
Zogby's electoral vote count is meaningless unless you have clear leaders.

Within margin of error: (6/15 - 6/20 Zogby polls)

State (leader)

Arkansas (Kerry)
Iowa (Kerry)
Michigan (Bush)
Missouri (Bush)
Nevada (Bush)
New Hampshire (Kerry)


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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 10:28 AM
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8. This was the interactive poll. Interactive polls are interesting, but not
trustworthy, IMO.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 01:45 PM
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11. Electoral Vote Predictor 2004: Kerry 269 Bush 269
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:40 PM
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12. Zogby Interactive polls are worthless
I said this when everyone here was salivating over these polls when they tipped it Kerry inordinately a few weeks ago, and I say it now.

These are internet polls, and they are not scientific.

The fact that they swing so much in their two releases this election season prove their worthlessness to me even more.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 09:38 PM
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14. Finally somebody points this out
You have to sign up just to take this poll, and who is signing up PARTISANS not independents.
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