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monicaaida Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:04 AM
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ANYONE THAT ADMITS THAT THEY WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN OVER OBAMA SHOULD BE BANNED FROM DU
others please join me
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:05 AM
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1. If Obama becomes the nominee, people who say that kind of stuff will be banned.
Until then, well, Obama's not our nominee yet, so chill.
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:20 AM
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18. That is basically what happened when Kerry won
...all of the people who continued whining about him were warned, then banned if they continued. It will be interesting to see how this pans out come the time we have our nominee.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:31 PM
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64. Once the Dems have a nominee their work will be done here anyway
Right now they're working hard to get a Clinton nomination.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:05 AM
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2. You do not have to yell. It is part of the rules that it is expected to support the nominee.
See topic above.

DU is going to go nuts for a week after the exit and then the rule comes in.

If people say they will vote for McCain after that they will likely be mass alerted and banned.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:17 PM
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53. Really? That's too bad. What other opinions are verbotten here? n/t
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:23 PM
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60. Anyone supporting McCain are free to go to a Republican or a neutral website
and voice their opinion that McCain should get their vote. But this is a Democratic website supporting the Democratic candidate for president. So what's your point....?
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:06 AM
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3. They will be, and it will work both ways
Once the nominee is chosen, DU rules prohibit those kinds of comments. Many who weren't thrilled with Kerry stayed on by being quiet, and there will be some like that this year as well.
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pathansen Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:14 AM
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12. Yes, the same should apply for Hillary since she is also a DEMOCRAT, remember?
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:15 AM by pathansen
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:37 PM
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44. she's a democrat? Gee...insult moveon...insult the grassroots of the DEMOCRATIC party
she's a LIEberman 'independant' democrat at this point.

I will plug my nose and vote for her if I must. But I will work harder to make sure Obama is our nominee so that I don't have to vote for her at all.

PS. I wasn't an original Obama supporter. Hillary's actions and those of her 'supporters' both officially and unofficially have made me decide that she has no ethics.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:06 AM
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4. Chill out on this for a few months!!!
They simply want Obama not to presume upon their votes--just as we sure as hell don't want Clinton to presume upon our votes should she steal the nomination.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:08 AM
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6. agreed. n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:37 PM
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45. OT --
Just wondering, rucky, if it was difficult finding the grossest, ugliest picture on the PLANET to use in your sig line. :puke:

Well done!

:hi:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:07 AM
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5. Who is saying they'll vote for McCain over Obama?
:wtf:

Admittedly, I haven't been around much this week. Having to earn a living gets in the way. :silly:
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:24 AM
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21. Rather than call offenders out by name...
Let me say that they've been doing it far longer than just this week and have used said foolishness as a drama-queeny little bludgeonsaying whether debunked in a thread, out-snarked, or yes...when pissed off by gloating, You'll be sorry when Nov. comes and we're not there, Be nice to me or you'll be sorry come election day and some even saying that should Obama be the nominee that they will work to do anything to see to it that Obama loses.

Seriously.

Primary time cannot end fast enough, and as draconian as it may seem, that bit of electric-prod cat-herding by the Admins will be seriously welcome.

Sad that it will be necessary, but welcome still.

(Okay...as a hint, they claim to be news writers (or rather, a synonym of that) or toe-tap at western shows (Yeee-hah!) and other monikers that shouldn't be too hard to suss out if you know who the usual poor players are 'round here.)
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:19 PM
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55. If we start censoring everything that conflicts with the party line, we will be Freepers. n/t
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:09 AM
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And vive-versato be fair.
What one does in the voting booth is one's own business, of coursebut there should also be no truck held with namby-pamby, passive-aggressive dicking around where smartasses skirt the rules by playing coy with shaded statements about it either.

End. Of. Story.

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:09 AM
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7. We are all Democrats, are we not? How can anyone justify a vote for John McSame!
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:06 AM
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36. Because there are some who think that being a sore loser or martyr....
....is more important than putting a Democrat in the White House
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:11 AM
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8. 99 posts and you want to decide who will be banned?!?!?
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:11 AM by bowens43
You're a newbie. I suggest you just chill out and watch happens. We're not in the GE yet.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:22 PM
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40. It is against DU rules to support McCain
You have enough posts, you should know that. :)
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:11 AM
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9. Why? Is this the former Soviet Union?
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:14 AM by cboy4
I don't have a problem with people going on record mentioning that they will, as long as they don't campaign for him here....and argue in favor of him here.

I don't agree with people who say they'd actually be voting for McCain, but I'm a free speech kinda guy.

And always remember, ignore is your friend.

P.S. How long have you been here, and you're already yelling for people to be banned?


on edit...typo
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:22 AM
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19. No, It is not the Soviet Union it is a private website
And the moderators have every right to decide who can post here and who can't. They are not limiting anyone's free speech, they are just not providing the bandwidth for speech that promotes the people that it is their mission to fight against. There are other sites that do allow people of all perspectives to post, and if you think DU gets rough you should try visiting some of those sites.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:35 AM
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28. I like those other sites....it's good to get out of the house
sometimes and be social with people who hold different views than all of us.

You know those people...the same ones at work and at school and who live next door and even are part of your family.

Look, like I said, I don't support Republican voters coming here to debate why the GOP is better or McCain is better, or any of that.

But if someone wants to say they're voting for McCain, and then they let it rest...who cares.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:17 PM
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38. And don't forget the neo-nazis...
Those sites tend to hold a lot of people who aren't exactly the type that live next door to me or are a part of my family. I associate with plenty of Republicans, but I have found those message boards that are set up to accommodate all views tend to bring out the worst people. Neo-Nazis, torture supporters, you name it you can find them on those other sites. I am personally glad they don't allow those type of people around here, we have enough hostility as it is.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:12 AM
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10. Is your window of opportunity to ban dissidents slipping from your grasp?
You do not have to yell.

If DU banned everyone who claims they won't vote for the dem nominee if it wasn't their first choice, this would be a quiet place indeed.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:13 AM
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11. You need 100 posts to ban someone from DU.
And be a donor.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:14 AM
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13. ....
:spray:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #11
14. ? W.H.A.T.? Where is that stated? n/t
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:41 AM
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31. ...
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:42 AM by cooolandrew
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:43 AM
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33. WTF does "..." mean anyway?
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monicaaida Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:17 AM
Response to Reply #11
15. hi
this is called democratic underground, meaning you have to vote for the nominee,


you ppl would have hated bobby kennedy, hillary supporters have no hope in their life so they bash ppl, they were happy when hillary said jerimah wright is a reflection of the church
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:04 AM
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35. You don't have to vote for anybody you don't want to vote for
What you cannot do here is promote a candidate running against a Democratic candidate, except during a Democratic primary. The Democratic nominee receives full protection once there is a Democratic nominee and following a week's grace period. That's how it works.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:19 AM
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17. That's right
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:22 AM by DesertRat
You receive the memo with instructions right after you donate.

:evilgrin:
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:18 AM
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16. Let's modify that to say that "Anyone that admits that they will vote for McCain over ...
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:22 AM by NotGonnaTakeIt
...the Democratic Nominee should be banned from DU!!" If you're voting Republican after 8 years of the worst Administration in our country's history, they go join Free Republic. I'm an Obama supporter, but I'll vote for the eventual Democratic Nominee. If by some miracle it is Hillary, I'll vote for her. I'll go in, hold my nose and vote and afterwards douse myself with gasoline and set myself on fire to purify myself, scrub myself in a shower of disinfectant for hours afterwards, hate myself for the vote and probably flog myself in a fit of self flagellation for weeks afterwards, chop off the hand that I voted with, go into a bout of deep depression and have to undergo intensive psychiatric therapy for years afterwards and hate myself for the rest of my life, but I would rather suffer all of the above than to vote for a Republican.

Edited for spelling
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #16
54. What if I was as intolerant of your opinion as you are of others' opinions? n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:23 AM
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20. If they say that now, they're probably lying.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:25 AM
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22. Ban Me!!!

It'd be worth it.
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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:19 PM
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39. I smell a sore loser on the rise...lol
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febreze Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:26 AM
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23. The scary thing abou McCain winning is...
the fact that unfortunately, liberal supreme court judge Stevens is very old and might depart at any moment. If McCain is president when this happens he will certainly appoint a right-winger to the court, and America will see many bad decisions take place in the next decades.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:58 AM
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34. You're right, it's all about the Supreme Court
We must elect a Democrat in 2008 or we could see disasterous court decisions, including an overturning of Roe v. Wade.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:29 AM
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24. So much for freedom of thought and speech
I don't think people ought to be allowed to campaign for McCain but they should be able to express displeasure with the nominee. After all this is not called Democratic MAINSTREAM it's called Democratic UNDERGROUND. Since when does the UNDERGROUND march in lockstep with the establishment?

The party will continue its rightward shift if we, the members of Democratic UNDERGROUND, do not continue to demand more and hold them accountable for their words and actions.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:33 AM
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26. He is right the site has a title erm it's a clue. Free speech by all means free republic if for mac.
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:37 AM by cooolandrew
If our business was Republicans the we would be Republican underground.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:21 PM
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57. That makes us as bad as Freepers. "When you become like your enemy, your enemy has won."-SunTzu
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:39 AM
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29. The name in itself is resistance to Republicans, not sure how that relates really.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:43 AM
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32. The rules actually state the sites goal is to get Democrats elected I agree to terms and conditions.
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:44 AM by cooolandrew
Remember the golden rule careful what you sign, I'm happy wiht my contract.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:30 AM
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25. It does seem a reasonable request BUT not voting can't be included as that is a bit extreme.
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:32 AM by cooolandrew
BTW what's with the cps. relax a little. If they say vote mccain fair enough that is counter to the site but a no vote is in some respects still their right but I encourage they do.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:34 AM
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27. Second!!!
those opposed? (go away freepers)
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:40 AM
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30. Agree and also ban anyone who refuses to vote for Clinton if she's the Dem candidate. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:22 PM
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58. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #58
63. Is calling me a Freeper the best you can do? Have a good day. n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:20 AM
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37. ouch my eyes hurt...
any one who admits that will vote for john will probably be banned. there will be some people you`ll never see again
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:25 PM
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41. ANYONE THAT ADMITS THAT THEY DON'T LIKE OBAMA SHOULD BE BANNED FROM DU
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:29 PM
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42. EXACTLY! - ALONG WITH ANYONE WHO POSTS...
IN ALL CAPS, ANYONE WHO USES PROFANITY, ANYONE WHO LINKS TO RIGHT-WING WEBSITES, AND, OF COURSE, ANYONE WHO IS ANTI-CLINTON AND IS NOT A DONOR! DID I FORGET ANY OTHER EVILDUERS?
:shrug:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:30 PM
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43. Don't forget Nader. Anybody who says they will vote for Nader gets the boot, too.
2000?

I'm bitter.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:39 PM
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46. DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON THE INTERNETS
nt
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:41 PM
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47. You'd pretty much have to ban a good many of the HRC boosters,
as well as just about every so-called "pro-gun Democrat" in the Guns Forum.

Then how would we have any fun?

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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:52 PM
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49. Hardly. I'm an Obama supporter, but I suppose you've been too busy name-calling to notice. (n/t)
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:24 PM
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61. Hi, Ben. I didn't know you were supporting Obama; glad to hear it!
You're the only pro-gun poster in the Guns Forum who has ever replied to a post of mine with a thoughtful analysis of what I actually said.

My post above was about half tongue-in-cheek, I hope you realize - but only half. Take it easy, later.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:43 PM
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48. Welcome to DU.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:14 PM
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50. 100% completely unnecessary. And here's why...
1) This is an open forum. As long as they don't disrupt, they have a right to be here. However, we all know they will find it EXCEEDINGLY difficult not to disrupt, so they probably will end up getting booted anyway. No need to make a mandate now that only serves to alienate other democrats.

2) If I were DUMB enough not to support the nominee, I wouldn't say so here because I know that I would have several hundred people telling me to go fuck myself. So only the most sado-masochistic of the bunch would do that.

3) There are many good Democrats that are supporting Hillary. They aren't all pot-banging nutjobs. These are people that care more about getting a Democrat in the White House vs. one woman's personal aspirations. These are the people that will be honest with themselves when choosing between Obama and McCain and will make the only reasonable choice: Obama. They may be angry right now and can't think that far ahead, but I truly believe the vast majority of Hillary supporters fall in this catagory. We need to give them time to get over the loss which we all see coming. In the end, I know deep down that in November they will do the right thing. I have faith in you!

4) There are die-hard, nutjob, "Hillary Or No One" type supporters. What to do with them? Should we be worried?

THE BAD NEWS: Trying to win them over is like trying to win over the Christian Coalition. There's no talking to them. There's no reasoning with them. And despite the best efforts of Obama and the party, they will either vote McCain or not vote at all and there's nothing we can do about it.

THE GOOD NEWS: We don't need them anyway. Obama has registered so many new voters and re-engaged previously disengaged voters that they will EASILY out number anyone we lose because of HRC. What's more, they are sad pathetic bitter people that would rather spite the party, the nation, and the world by aiding and abetting John McCain. We shouldn't WANT them on our side. They were with the wrong party to begin with. So in the words of their own candidate, "Screw 'em"

Tuesday, I believe, will mark the beginning of the end. They can kick and scream and threaten, but it won't change anything. Let's all just focus on getting Obama a win in PA, the haters will fall away, Hillary will ride off into the sunset, and we can begin focusing on McCain.

Peace.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:15 PM
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51. If they say it a week after the concession
Agreed. Till than let them go through their process of dealing with it. Striking out at us one last time might be something they need to do.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:16 PM
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52. If that happens, I will leave. We don't want to become inbred...
...mirroring each other's opinions. It ultimately weakens us and makes us less effective fighters.
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kitfalbo Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:20 PM
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56. Agreed
They have their own freeper forum if they do.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:22 PM
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59. If the Democratic candidate at any point is someone
who I absolutely can't support, I will be true to myself and stop posting here. However, there's little or no chance that's going to happen this year.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:26 PM
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62. Isn't this, um, kind of up to Admin?
I trust they've got a good idea already of what rules will be in place once a nominee is chosen.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:33 PM
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65. If you're going to yell, learn to write
ANYONE WHO ADMITS THAT THEY WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN OVER OBAMA SHOULD BE BANNED FROM DU
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:48 PM
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66. Locking
Flamebait.
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