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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:47 PM
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Obama leads Hillary by 20 in latest Newsweek national poll
http://www.newsweek.com/id/132721

Despite her campaign's relentless attacks on Barack Obama's qualifications and electability, Hillary Clinton has lost a lot of ground with Democratic voters nationwide going into Tuesday's critical primary in Pennsylvania, a new NEWSWEEK poll shows.

The survey of 1,209 registered voters found that Obama now leads Clinton by nearly 20 points, or 54 percent to 35 percent, among registered Democrats and those who lean Democratic nationwide. The previous Newsweek poll, conducted in March after Clinton's big primary wins in Ohio and Texas, showed the two Democrats locked in a statistical tie (45 percent for Obama to 44 percent for Clinton). The new poll puts Obama ahead among women as well as men, and voters aged 60 and older as well as younger voters.

One of the more devastating results for Clinton was that a majority of all registered voters now see her as dishonest and untrustworthy. According to the poll, just four in 10 (41 percent) registered voters view the New York senator as honest and trustworthy, while 51 percent think the opposite. This compares with solid majorities of voters who see Obama and McCain as honest and trustworthy (both polled 61 percent).


The results suggest that Clinton was damaged more by being caught in a tall tale about landing in Bosnia under sniper fire than Obama has been by his recent controversies, including the firestorm of criticism provoked by the Illinois senator's remarks that blue-collar voters "cling" to religion, guns and other issues because of their bitterness. In addition, over half (53 percent) of voters say they believe Obama shares their values, more than those who say the same thing about Clinton (47 percent) or McCain (45 percent).


:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:48 PM
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1. Before or after debate?
When was this conducted?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:50 PM
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6. The debate actually will earn him more points......
because it is becoming clear to all interested that they were deliberatly trying to get him.....and folks like to protect someone involved in getting piled upon.

I think that asking about whether his pastor loved America as much as he did to it over the edge for anyone watching.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:51 PM
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12. from what it looks like the debate hurt the media the most and Obama the least.
Hillary who picked up on what the media was throwing at Obama got hurt as well. Obama, gentlemanly, declining to attack Hill on her Bosnia lies looked good by comparison.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:59 PM
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And that was his only choice, really.....
cause anything else he would have done would have labeled him, and Hillary would have cried victim!

Being a gentleman in this case was his best choice.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:04 PM
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32. What worries me most about the debate is the RW frame...
Time and again we heard from the Beltway analysts, who by and large defended ABC, was "this is what Obama can expect from the GOP." Is MSM admitting to something about its leanings, or are they just following standard RW frames in this election before even being asked? Didn't Staph get his prompting from Callamity Hannity?

Wallowing in obvious bias is one thing; carrying the GOP slop bucket is over the top.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:52 PM
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13. You completely misread what the debate meant..... there's a "rallying around Barack" effect from it

...American people are rallying around the guy they think was unfairly attacked.....


This poll is HUGE.
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:54 PM
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17. Half before, half after.
Polling was 16th to 17th. From the article:

"Stacy DiAngelo of Princeton Survey Research Associates, which did the April 16-17 polling, says that of the registered voters who were surveyed 517 were interviewed after the debate and 692 before. She added that the views of those surveyed remained largely constant."
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:55 PM
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18. LOL, right behind you so I'll delete
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 02:56 PM by WIllo

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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:00 PM
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27. Me, too (damn slow connectioni)
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 03:01 PM by JaneQPublic
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:49 PM
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2. k / r
.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:49 PM
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3. Wow! That's the widest lead yet in a national poll! nt
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:50 PM
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4. She is done. She is staying in until PA to save face....

She is going to lose PA

And, that is the end of the line.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:50 PM
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Q: how do you kill a zombie campaign?
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:50 PM
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5. The more mud Hillary has thrown the more it has come back to hit her
and hurt her credibility and honesty.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:51 PM
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7. Americans see the Truth -- GOBAMA!!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:51 PM
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8. I hate to say it but the polls are no longer working right
I mean they are all over the place now.

Maybe they will calm down after PA but I doubt it.
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:51 PM
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9. What price negativity? n/t.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:51 PM
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10. I find this poll to be a little hard to believe
It seems to come out of left field. I'm happy about the results, but I'll take this with a grain of salt.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:52 PM
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15. 1200+ is a pretty large sample..... it might be a LITTLE off, but not much...
...
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:53 PM
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16. Maybe I'm putting this in the "too good to be true" category
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 02:54 PM by Cant trust em
Interesting info, but I'll wait until Tuesday. Until those results come in I'll be sitting here feeling nervous.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:56 PM
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21. These are national, not PA.... so Tuesday doesn't have much to do with this...
...
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:26 PM
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51. actually I think all polling is related
If there's anything that I know it's that American voters like to jump on the bandwagon. So even though this is a national poll, some people will still see this an put their chips in with who looks like they'll be the winner.

But for me personally, I like to set expectations low and when they are exceeded I'll be happy.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:51 PM
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11. K and R.
This speaks for itself.
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Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:52 PM
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14. so america doesn't count now?
It's over!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:55 PM
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19. both Clinton and Obama beat McCain by the same 4 points
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:55 PM
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20. Believe it or not, this genuinely makes me feel bad for Hillary.
I know she deeply, desperately wants to win this.

She's just been going about it the wrong way.
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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:57 PM
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22. That is awesome!!
GOBAMA!!!! :kick:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:57 PM
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23. The patient is dead. The twitching you see is just stray electricity.
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:58 PM
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24. Bump, Kick, Recommend and etc... n/t
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:59 PM
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25. wow!
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:00 PM
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26. Warning: Extremely attractive photo of Obama
at link!

Gulp.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:16 PM
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39. He's stylin'!
:D
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:01 PM
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28. Not good news for Clinton
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:02 PM
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29. gee willikers!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:02 PM
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30. It's like she's swinging wildly and crazily at him ...
and he's just calmly holding her off with a finger placed on her forehead while she wildly flails to no avail.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:03 PM
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31. wow! that's a huge lead!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:04 PM
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33. Great news!
Warms my heart. :D
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:04 PM
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34. good pics also K&R
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:05 PM
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35. Newsweek doesn't count. n/t
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:06 PM
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36. I am in that statistical group... between March and April - this past week or so...
...I was undecided after Edwards left the race. But between 'bittergate' and that disgusting ruse of a "debate", I've gone completely into the Obama side. Bittergate did it for me - it became sharply clear to me that Hillary was playing Republican politics - and was IN bed with the Republicans (McSame) on that non-issue. THEN there was that rediculous "debate" which was obviously a set-up between her and her former employee (snuffaluffagus), the lamestream media, Repig talking heads, and by proxy, McSame - to gangbang Obama on rediculous, meaningless crap instead of discussing real issues that the country faces right now.

I expect that type of treatment of a Democrat from Repigs - but NOT from another Democrat. If she'd do that to be President, if she'd stoop THAT low, then I don't want her in there. THAT is just the type of 'Low' we've been putting up with for years from Republicans. She really showed her a** now.

So I got totally disgusted with Clinton - and YEP - BITTER - it all just gave me SOMETHING ELSE to be BITTER about.

Dog knows what slime they'll pump out this weekend before the PA primary to get Obama. We KNOW THEY'LL STOP AT NOTHING - just like any Republican - to "win". The woman has no credibility and no respect from me now - and certainly no trust.

And furthermore, Obama was right re: bitter. And Hillary just added to it. Again. So, I'm supporting Obama.




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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:12 PM
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38. Yep, I got the first glimpse when she proudly put McCain above Obama.
It shocked me but I realized she's willing to go just that far to win.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:08 PM
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37. Tis over folks. nt
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:16 PM
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40. Wow -- I don't think I have seen one with such a large spread
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:19 PM
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41. Did you see today's Gallup poll?
Gallup Daily: Clinton Moves Within 3 Points of Obama
Thursday night interviewing suggests Obama may have been hurt by debate

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106630/Gallulp-Daily-Clinton...

These polls are all over the place.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:22 PM
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43. The gallup dailies have a very small sample...and any individual day is meaningless... the trend is
what matters.

Obama hasn't been below 47 in a month.

Hillary hasn't been above 46 in a month.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:29 PM
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44. Sample sizes are the same
Newsweek - 1209
Gallup - 1231

Like I said, these polls are all over the place. I don't know if it's bias or poor methodology or what. I am just saying you can't tout a 20% difference as definitive then dismiss a 3% difference as faulty.

If you are looking at trends for your answer, I would note that Clinton has trended up over the last four days and Obama down during the same period in the Gallup poll.

This thing is so close.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:20 PM
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42. Damn, that's a crazy poll. Cool, I guess. Hard to believe though.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:30 PM
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45. ridiculous.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:48 PM
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46. I know, isn't it?
Ridiculously bad for Clinton, eh?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:51 PM
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49. Your candidate is.
But that's ok. Hop aboard the ObamaWagon! It's a great ride! We're rolling right along and picking up steam!
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:49 PM
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47. The real headline from this is that the majority do not trust Hillary Clinton now.
The Bosnia gaffe has hurt her tremendously.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:49 PM
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48. This poll is now meaningless... it is pre-finger-gate......


;-)
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:59 PM
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50. This calls for a happy dance!
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:51 PM
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52. K
:kick:
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:58 PM
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53. K&R - excellent news at this point
and noting the article, how long are we going to keep hearing of Hilary's "big win in Texas"?
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:52 AM
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54. 54% of the Democratic voting public is dead to me now
:sarcasm:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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