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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:47 AM
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"Screw 'Em" Gate...this thing is getting legs folks...
hmmm...what can we do to twist the knife on this issue so to speak?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/20043574...

Clinton denies disparaging voters in '95

Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign denied Thursday that she had referred disparagingly to blue-collar workers after they voted Republican in the 1994 congressional elections, which gave the GOP control of Congress and cast a shadow on her husband's presidency.

The allegation, which surfaced Wednesday on The Huffington Post, is that at a Camp David, Md., retreat in January 1995, Clinton then first lady told her husband to abandon Southern working-class voters who had deserted his party at the polls.

"Screw 'em," she said, according to several witnesses. "You don't owe them a thing, Bill. They've done nothing for you. You don't have to do anything for them."

Her campaign denied the charge Thursday. "It ain't so, it ain't so," communications director Howard Wolfson said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

also check out google: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&client=firefox...
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:48 AM
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1. Keep asking her.
Let's hear her deny it.
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LibGranny Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:57 AM
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22. From DailyKos
Here are the 3 witnesses to her "screw 'em"
statement taken from the DailyKos.


"But now...the list of people coming forward to say that
they witnessed this incident is growing. Bejamin Barber's
account is the topic of the original story in the Huffington
Post, where Harry Boyt confirmed it.

And now Alan Wolfe, who was also there, agrees!

jenontheshore's diary :: :: 
He writes at the Plank: 

Make that three. I was there. I hope people have heard of me.
And Barber and Boyte have it right.

A lot of people compare Barack Obama to Bobby Kennedy. To me,
he most resembles Bill Clinton, at least the Bill Clinton I
knew then. 

For the record, Bill's response to Hillary's outrage at these
Southern whites who were making their life difficult was:

   "I know how you feel. I understand Hillary's sense of
outrage. It makes me mad too. Sure, we lost our base in the
South; our boys voted for Gingrich. But let me tell you
something. I know these boys. I grew up with them.
Hardworking, poor, white boys, who feel left out, feel that
our reforms always come at their expense. Think about it,
every progressive advance our country has made since the
Civil War has been on their backs. They're the ones asked to
pay the price of progress. Now, we are the party of progress,
but let me tell you, until we find a way to include these boys
in our programs, until we stop making them pay the whole price
of liberty for others, we are never going to unite our party,
never really going to have change that sticks."

So, now that three people heard her say this, do you think
this will become a big story? 

You can go to DKos and use their search - type in screw 'em
and you'll get lots of stories/diaries re this.  She's
getting a pass on being elitist!
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:55 AM
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2. Elitist monster.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:57 AM
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3. This woman has a different recollection:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:05 AM
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4. I'm really torn on this...
half of me is sick and tired of this crap already and the other half of me thinks she absolutely deserves it.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:28 PM
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27. She deserves it
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:59 AM
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5. I thought Obama didn't want to play "Gotcha" politics anymore.
Guess his supports still want to though.
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:03 AM
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6. The story did not originate from Obama if you check where it came from. Second
Ayers did not originate from her but she has run with it since the debate and after wards. So I don't care if his surrogates want to say something about it.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:08 AM
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8. Obama might not want to do it but she deserves it! I will throw her under the bus
for someone else to run over her the way she has done to Obama over and over again! I hope they have a video or recording of her saying it to drop later today. That would be the end for her. After acting to hypocritical about Barack's remarks when she knows exactly what he meant. There is no way to sugar coat what she said.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:17 AM
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13. We don't work for the campaign
And normally I would say this is below the belt, but if she is going to make an issue of what he said at a closed-door fundraiser and twist what he obviously meant by it, then this is fair game. If she is going to claim that his off-the-record clumsily worded statement is indicative of a condescending attitude toward a group of voters, then I think voters are entitled to know what Clinton really thinks of them too.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:25 AM
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25. Bingo!!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:26 AM
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14. the blowback has been in effect..
this entire campaign season. Kind of like the dragon thing...you step on it's tail, it bites off your head.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:08 AM
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19. If Clinton viewed it the same way we would not even care about this.
When Clinton sticks with the issues we stick with the issues.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:05 AM
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24. Yes, it must be nice to use "kitchen sink" gutter tactics and think your shit don't stink.
Goddamn right his supporters can sling shit too.

Lots more bones in the closet for Hillary.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:07 AM
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7. Still no witnesses? No video? No audio? Just one HillHater's second-hand hear-say?
Yup. That cancels out Pastor "GOD DAMN AMERICA! ITS IN THE BIBLE!" Wright.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:08 AM
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9. Bookmarking this comment in case they drop it today. nt
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:11 AM
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10. The Obama Camp works like that.
You may get your Hope.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:30 AM
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17. No witnesses? Try THREE of them...independently saying the same story.... one in a book, that
Hillary did NOT denounce for the past 7 years, since the book was published in 2001.


Sorry... three independent witnesses to the same event goes beyond "hearsay".
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:59 AM
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18. Bingo!!
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:39 PM
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29. You know he's just going to ignore your response, and then bring up the same argument later
Somewhere later, in a different thread, he'll bring up the "no witnesses?" remark, even though as you pointed out, that's not true.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:12 AM
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11. We can send it to every Pennsylvania newspaper we can find online. nt
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:47 PM
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26. I's already started to send it to online PA newspapers
here's a good list to use;

http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/usstate/uspennsy.htm

try to hit as many as you possibly can...we have 5 days
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:54 PM
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32. Thanks!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:16 AM
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12. It is getting legs
And the longer they deny it the longer it is going to fester.
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Greenwood Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:27 AM
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15. Nope. Sorry. No legs.
Sorry.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:30 AM
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16. Then why is it being reported on?
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:13 AM
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21. how do you get around then?
sorry it was right there-I had to swing...
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:12 AM
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20. Just think if audio of this surfaced...
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LibGranny Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:00 AM
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23. There were 3 witnesses to this
Benjamin Barber, Harry Boyt, and Allen Wolfe - all 3 were present when she said this to Slick Willy re Southern white voters.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:31 PM
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28. audio would be priceless.
or audio of one of the witnesses...
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:50 PM
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30. When he speaks, Howard Wolfson reminds me of that little creature that perched on Jabba the Hut's
shoulder during Return of the Jedi. And, of course, every other word out of his mouth is a lie, which makes it even more apropos.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:54 PM
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31. I hated that thing!
The laugh that horrible laugh!!

Clinton needs to say if she is going to deny this or She admits it and apologizes.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:05 PM
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33. we need R2 with an electrode for Wolfson's ass
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:07 PM
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34. She needs to get the Obama treatment...
make her explain it over and over again...
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