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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:09 PM Original message |
I have a sick feeling in my stomach... |
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Iwasthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. I have been thinking the same thing |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. same thing here |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. They do what you're talking about, they'd better expect some blood to be spilled. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. I hate to be the messager but the winner, or those who are |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's not just the DLC and Hillary.. |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. The whole "machine" is against democracy. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. Occam's razor. They benefit from a horserace. They also would benefit from a brokered convention. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Occam's Electric Razor: They are owned by giant parent corporations |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. they also benefit from a civil war in the Democratic Party |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. The media are the only ones who benefit. They like |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. No Gibson, Russert, Matthews, etc. |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
6. I don't believe they are making any headway |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
7. it's been this way since forever |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Demand Obama and his wife get out of the Council on Foreign Relations |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. dangerously depressed paranoids for Jesus and the 2nd Ammendment |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. No both their names are listed. |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
56. Newsweek had an article on the science of voting likeable candidates cause voters to reject new |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
9. Don't worry about it. She's desperate and the MSM is complicit |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
74. Agreed. Obama is bucking the establishment... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
10. My take on where things stand..... |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. You sure talk pertty.. And you are right... Rec if I could... |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
11. MSM sure is hell trying their hardest to destory Obama but it isnt working. |
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DB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
14. Of course you're right. Do you think the MSM and Corporate America are just going to cave? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. I've already posted this but will one more time. |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Obama has been given more attention and praise by the |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Learn to read. n/t |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I have and you apparently aren't listening or reading but |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
23. Don't worry. Hillary totally blew her campaign last night...... She is toast. |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. How about the fact that we have no real winner that is good |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. That is not a fact. That is your own, personal fear. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. And the mods didn't bring up, as they should have, her new polls |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. She cannot win the GE no matter what her supporters say here. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. "Hillary against Hillary". That's right! |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. ¿Todo bien hermanita? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Mejor cuando no falla "ignore"! |
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PragmatismRules (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
24. whatever! |
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PragmatismRules (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
25. whatever! |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. LOL where were you when the media was bashing Hillary for months on end? |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I'm not a Hillary fan nor will I vote for her. |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. When the media is reporting she is losing states, endorsement,supers, and money... |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
32. Duers didn't mind much when corporations took aim at Edwards |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. deleted |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Only Edwards was a threat to them. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. What? You mean when we cheering on our friend symbolman |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
33. Someone on one of the better NPR shows today (broadcasted from Boston) |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Why weren't they upset about Edwards being dumped on |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. Some were |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
39. They are trying real hard to give him a Dean moment. |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. He is Dean. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. They came down HARD on Obama over this. This was supposed to be it. |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Read post #49. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
47. It has to do with McSame. It is said to be hurting Obama agaisnst McSame |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. It is hurting both of them. No one won. |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
48. Just thinking loving thoughts towards media. When we put negative feelings out there it adds to the |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I'm postive it is the wrong direction!! |
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WatchWhatISay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
50. you're right, they are, but |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Read post #49 |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
57. He's the front-runner. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
58. It is getting nastier |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
59. If Hillary pulls off a coup in the primary, she will lose in the GE. |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
60. Corporations aren't stupid enough to put all their eggs in one basket |
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hvn_nbr_2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
61. Actually there are several things going on here with CorpMedia |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. They don't fear Hillary or Obama since they are the same |
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DerekHalfhand (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
62. CEO of Disney-ABC already said Hillary should be appointed president not ellected. |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Is this post from Roveland? |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
65. They are not promoting Hillary just kneecapping Obama |
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StevieM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
66. Oh please....the media is in the tank for Obama and to pretend otherwise is silly |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
68. "pushing heavily for Hillary to pull this off somehow." |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
69. Actually, they want McCain. |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. None of the Presidential candidates seems a good one to me. |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
70. I'm trying to be non-partisan when I say they asked |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. No they weren't! |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
71. url for the transcript. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
73. You are just now realizing this?? They WANT Hillary so she'll LOSE the GE to McCain. |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
76. They just want to drag it out to keep up their ratings. It's all $ to them. |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Bingo |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
77. I actually think the Mass Media wants neither Dem they want McCain to win! |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 03:58 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Any of them will do for the media elite. |
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