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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:59 PM
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These are the regular people Obama was hangin' with in SF
I keep reading here about how the MSM is using the term SF liberal as a dog whistle (to use the term of the month)

and that the people of SF are just like everybody else. That's true, but if you haven't seen where he was when he deemed small town folk

of being those stupid Bible-thumpin', shotgun-pumpin', outhouse-dumpin', sibling-humpin , immigrant-trumpin', backwoods mumblin' , genital-itching,

inbred racists, this might interest you.

If you have google earth here is a link- http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=85476
Attached are placemarks for the huge and amazingly expensive ($25M and up) San Francisco mansions belonging to:

Fred Pavlow, Add-a-Garage, 2776 Broadway
Trevor Traina, stepson of Danielle Steele, 2780 Broadway
Norman Stone, heir to insurance tycoon W. Clement Stone, 2790 Broadway
Peter Haus, Levi Strauss heir, 2800 Broadway
James Klingbeil, of Am. Apt. Communites, 2808 Broadway
Peter Sperling, U. of Phoenix heir, 2845 Broadway St.
Larry Ellison, Oracle founder, 2850 Broadway
Gordon Getty, Getty Oil heir, 2870-2880 Broadway St.
George Jewett, Weyerhaeuser heir, 2990 Broadway

In the Haight, stencils of Barack Obama's smiling face are decorating the sidewalk. But in real life, he is turning up in more lucrative venues: The candidate will be around here on April 6, at a series of events that includes three $2,300-a-head maximum-strength fundraisers: Sara and Sohaib Abbasi are throwing a luncheon in Atherton; he'll zip up to Nancy and Bob Farese's house in Kentfield in mid-afternoon; and proceed from there to Ann and Gordon Getty's in San Francisco. (There's also a mere $1,000-a-person do at the home of Carolyn Davis and Alex Mehran that night.)

Your trusty party-animal-by-proxy has tried to infiltrate these events, but transparency seems to be fogged up. No media eyes allowed on the collection kettles; when the gifts are big, the press is barred.

On April 6, 2008, Barack Obama visited the San Francisco region, zipping from event to event all day long, from one end of the Bay Area to the other.

What? you might ask. How did I miss that? If only I had known, I would have gone to see him.

Well, there's a reason you didn't know about it. Obama didn't want you to know about it. Because the events he was attending weren't for people like you.

P.S.: Christina Orth, who attended an open San Francisco Symphony rehearsal Thursday, left Davies Hall promoting "Obama for President, Dudamel for Vice President." http://www.sfisonline.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a...

Obama's campaign slogan is "Change" -- declaring that he alone will change the way things are done in politics.

But what kind of "change" is this? The single most insidious aspect of American politics is that candidates often must pander to and do the bidding of the wealthiest Americans, who have the funds to get the candidate elected. It's so commonplace, we no longer think of it as "corruption," but that's basically what it is. So when Obama spends all day doing nothing but going to a series of private fundraisers populated exclusively by the wealthy, the only "change" I feel are the coins jangling at the bottom of my pocket.

And I don't like hypocrisy.

According to this article (and many others), Obama's campaign is claiming he raises his money from small donors:..

Wait just a minute there. If you do the math, on just this one day in the Bay Area, Obama went to four events, three of which had $2,300 minimum donations per ticket, and the other $1,000 minimum per ticket. Each of the events, from the various descriptions, held as many as 400 people (the Getty mansion has a ballroom that reportedly seats at least 300). 400 x $2,300 = $920,000 per event, times three events = $2.76 million, plus the other event, which undoubtedly puts him over $3 million in contributions for this one day alone. And who knows how many other similar days he schedules in other parts of the country. http://www.zombietime.com/obama_visits_billionaires_row /







Here are the real regular people, running their asses off parking all the limos


Norman Stone, heir to insurance tycoon W. Clement Stone, 27xx Broadway.
Peter Haus, Levi Strauss heir, 28xx Broadway. In 1996, Haas' Levi holdings were valued in a news report at $2.2 billion.
Peter Sperling, U. of Phoenix heir, 28xx Broadway. In 2003 he had about $1.5 billion.
Larry Ellison, Oracle founder, 28xx Broadway. In 2003 Forbes set his worth at $18 billion.
Gordon Getty, Getty Oil heir, 28xx Broadway. In 2003 Forbes Magazine estimated his fortune at $2.1 billion.
George Jewett, Weyerhaeuser heir, 29xx Broadway.

These aren't apts




The awful view from the homes to remind these people how bad they have it



Notice the weight of the ring on the right hand of one the common folk causes her to lean to one side, back problems in this area are epidemic



Obama enters through servants entrance to observe clingy behavior



Notice the diverse crowd, but only from a distance.



This is where Obama had hoped to have a private conversation to say this about small town people-
You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, a lot of them -- like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they've gone through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, and they cling to guns, or religion, or antipathy toward people who aren't like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:01 PM
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1. Oh goodness. What is he doing with a bunch of smart people?
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:02 PM
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2. so the rich are not allowed to
be obama supporters?
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:08 PM
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10. they are supposed to be Hillary supporters.....it is a form of elitist betrayal.....
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 03:08 PM by virtualobserver
to support Obama
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:34 PM
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38. Nah - there's 'elite' and the POWERFUL ELITE Clintons work for - GHWBush, Jackson Stephens, Dubai
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 03:35 PM by blm
and Saudi royals, et al.

I'll take the elite Obama has in his corner over the POWERFUL ELITE the Clintons have long protected.

That BCCI report didn't deep-six its outstanding matters throughout the 90s by itself.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:37 PM
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41. so even though they are Bush's base, Hillary says "All your base are belong to us"
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:23 PM
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64. This post was meant to show where Obama was when he disrespected
small town America and tried to keep it secret.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:31 PM
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67. He's said similar many times the last FOUR YEARS so why pretend? Overdose on Feign-Feign today?
.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:40 PM
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70. Similar? yes. As condescendingly and with such sneering elitism? no.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:44 PM
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72. Hahah...you HAVE overdosed on Feign-Feign. And doing it in service to the POWERFUL ELITE
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 04:48 PM by blm
the same POWERFUL ELITE the Clintons serve and protect.

When ANY wealthy person from San Francisco gets MORE attention and concern from YOU than GHWBush, Jackson Stephens, Dubai and Saudi royals, Bin Ladens, Marc Rich, AQ Khan and all the others who Clinton protected throughout the 90s when he deep-sixed the outstanding matters in IranContra, BCCI, and CIA drugrunning, then you should REALIZE how you sound to those of us who HAVE a sense of proportion.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:03 PM
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3. Obama said all that?
"Bible-thumpin', shotgun-pumpin', outhouse-dumpin', sibling-humpin , immigrant-trumpin', backwoods mumblin' , genital-itching, inbred racists"

Or was that you?

:eyes:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:04 PM
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4. Alerted for lying about what Obama said.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:56 PM
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50. tattletale
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:21 PM
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86. So you KNOW you're lying? I'm not surprised...
like candidate like supporter.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:40 PM
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89. Reread the post, and then look up the word "deemed".
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:21 PM
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96. You lied. He did NOT "deem" ANYONE
"stupid Bible-thumpin', shotgun-pumpin', outhouse-dumpin', sibling-humpin , immigrant-trumpin', backwoods mumblin' , genital-itching,inbred racists".
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:29 PM
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99. In my opinion he did.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 06:30 PM by 2rth2pwr
eta- Plus it's funny.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:46 PM
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102. Then you have serious comprehension problems.
And I feel sorry for you.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:06 PM
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104. Thanks.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:05 PM
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5. this obsession is just embarrassing
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:05 PM
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6. Land O' Goshen! Let's elect McCain and stop this frippery once and fer all!
Horror! Wealthy donors in San Francisco! The humanity!
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:05 PM
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7. At least none of them have written a letter to
the Speaker of the House...as far as I know.

haha, one of the guys kind of looks like a Fake Karl Lagerfeld.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:05 PM
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8. First, his comments about small town Americans was correct.
Second, why do you have a problem with a Democratic candidate speaking to rich Americans? Don't they count; especially if they support a Democrat?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:18 PM
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26. You are on excuse #2 when the NY Times is on #3
Let's see:

1) He could not possibly have intended something so offensive and absurd.

2) But he's 100% right about that offensive and absurd characterization.

currently according to Bob Hebert of the NY Times-

3) He can't be held responsible for his offensive and absurd characterization, because he misspoke; he actually intended something more insulting.

There is no mystery here. Except for people who have been hiding in caves or living in denial, its pretty widely understood that a substantial number of those voters in Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia and elsewhere will not vote for a black candidate for president.
...
Senator Obama has spent his campaign trying to dodge the race issue, which in America is like trying to dodge the wind. So when he fielded the question in San Francisco, he didnt say: A lot of folks are not with me because Im black but Im trying to make my case and bring as many around as I can.

Instead, he fell back on a tortured response that was demonstrably incorrect. Referring to the long-term economic distress of many working-class voters, Mr. Obama said: Its not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who arent like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or antitrade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/15/opinion/15herbert.htm...

Bob Herbert: Don't Blame Obama For Calling Pennsylvanians "Bitter;" He Only Meant To Say They Were Unenlightened and Hopelessly Racist

Don't forget that in addition to the HuffPo-reported remarks, he actually did say (paraphrase) "these people don't believe the message when it's coming from a 46-year-old black guy named Barack Obama," to which the billionaires laughed appreciatively. So when Herbert says Obama couldn't come right out and say they're racist, well, he did.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:24 PM
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33. "He Only Meant To Say They Were Unenlightened and Hopelessly Racist" are you serious?
Wow, that is amazing that you think like that.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:39 PM
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108. The Onion?
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:19 PM
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28. I totally agree. He said nothing untrue.
And he should be allowed to hang out with smart people. Most really together smart people have money.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:36 PM
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40. we don't live in a small town and
we're doing quite well. however, my husband is "bitter". he's been with a major international company for 39 years. he has seen the jobs go overseas. he sees, on an every day basis, the people from india who are brought here to work for 1/4 of what americans are paid. he's not mad at the people from india -- in their minds they're making great money and living much better than they did back home. but his company and many others are making huge profits and taking the jobs away from americans.

if he didn't have a rare skill, his job would have been gone years ago.



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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:08 PM
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9. Another link to another RW smear site
By another "progressive." How about that site's Really Truly Hillary page? Would you be proud of posting that?
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:16 PM
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25. dude that site is just AWESOME!!! Wow what a treasure trove.. ROFL!!!
:rofl:
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:53 PM
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111. My 2 faves...




funny site. Thanks.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:08 PM
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11. Post that show Obama as a fraud -a corporate stooge to the right of Hillary - aren't appreciated on
DU
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:12 PM
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16. This post of course shows no such thing
except in the twisted minds of the most gullible and bitter hillary supporters.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:09 PM
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12. Fund rasiers with people who have money??? That bastard!!
ROFLMAO!!

You people are pathetic.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:10 PM
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13. Wow. Some of those people have even more money than the Clintons! nt
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:11 PM
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14. So, is that your three posts yet??
Fuck I hope so, I get tired of the shrill empty calories of your posts.


:puke:
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:17 PM
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58. the good news is, once Obama's the nominee, Taylor Marsh
& Larry Johnson won't be able to post here anymore. God, I can't wait. And according to a local station in SF, Hillary had attended a private function in SF earlier that day. Wonder who was on her guest list?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:38 PM
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69. Doesn't really matter. The question is to did she insult and
disrespect rural Americans behind closed doors to a bunch of

fat cats and hope that no one would find out?
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:12 PM
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15. I don't understand...
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 03:12 PM by graycem
Many "wealthy" people still share democratic views and ideas. If anything, it's quite something to me, and shows their politics aren't just about protecting their money. Maybe they care about the country and their fellow Americans as a whole. For example, I have been lucky in that my family is actually doing well, but that doesn't mean I don't feel depressed about the war and all the suffering going on in the country. Is there going to be a limit now on income in order to be a democrat? In order to have compassion? In order to care about the country? That's an absurd point to try and make.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:12 PM
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17. "Some people call you the haves and haves more. I call you my base."
Servants entrance. Jeezus.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:12 PM
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18. Nice shot of the Palace of Fine Arts, tho. Thanks!


San Francisco sure is a beautiful city, aint it?

I'd be bitter, too, if I didn't live here! ;-)
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:42 PM
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71. Isn't it beautiful? Even with the scaffolding around it
The Palace of Fine Arts looks like a jewel. I love love love it here. And today is especially nice. I'm in the Castro right now, might head over to Dolores Park later. What a lovely day. I want more of them.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:47 PM
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73. The Bay Area is Great!
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:13 PM
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19. So this is relevant..HOW??
Next are you planning to put up some Clinton photos too so that we can admire them also?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:04 PM
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52. Just a peek at where Obama was hoping to talk about middle America behind their back.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:13 PM
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20. Glad you like my jewelry...


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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:23 PM
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32. How's your back? Do you know of a good chiropractor in Palo Alto?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:25 PM
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34. My back is fine....
...I live in SoCal, not the Bay area.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:14 PM
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21. As if HRC doesn't have rich supporters? The horror!
Most of Obama's contributions have come from small donors. But it doesn't mean there aren't rich people who also support him. Hillary and her supporters should really not go there, especially with her list of donors.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:14 PM
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22. Well done!
Nice photo essay. Take a rec.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:15 PM
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23. Someone needs to ask the candidates tonite
just how many private fundraisers each has attended in the past thirty days. I would bet you Clinton would win that count hands down.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:15 PM
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24. I hope you guys have more damage-control than this. Hillary "Screw 'Em" Clinton needs help now...
.... like nobody's business.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:19 PM
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27. Obama said what he and his affluent supporters believe. That was the real Obama
His "explanation" is bogus and politically calculated, just as his lying with a straight face numerous times on national television about Wright was.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:20 PM
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29. Yes it was and I agree with him.. He was spot on.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:22 PM
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30. That's the problems with Hillary's argument,.
Most people hear this and also believe it but not say it out loud.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:44 PM
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47. .
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 03:45 PM by Bensthename
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:05 PM
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82. How can a person call themsel a "Democrat" while claiming anyone who opposes "free trade" is a bigot
I'm really trying to understand here.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:23 PM
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31. That, unfortunately, is how it's done. All of the candidates have
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 03:27 PM by LibDemAlways
donors and attend fundraisers in the wealthiest zip codes. I am confident neither Obama nor Clinton will be paying me a call anytime soon. I have nothing to offer in the way of cash or connections.

True story. Back when Gray Davis was running for his first term as California governor my insurance claims rep brother was invited to a fundraising event at the home of a man he had settled a homeowner's claim for and become friendly with. The man invited him because my brother had expressed an interest in attending such a function and just wanted to see what it was like. A lot of very well heeled people were there and my brother stood off to the side by himself just observing, when Davis spotted him. The candidate walked over, introduced himself, and said he didn't recognize my brother from other fundraising events but was glad to have him "on board." My brother was a little embarrassed and admitted that he was merely a guest of the host but that he would support Davis with his vote. With that, Davis spun on his heels and walked away without further comment.

Money is the life's blood of politics and those who have it have the ear of politicians. The rest of us have to content ourselves that we have the power with our votes to ultimately determine the fate of these people, but that assumes fair elections which is definitely not a given.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:26 PM
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35. Is it your position that Hillary would have turned down their donations?
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 03:27 PM by Hepburn
:eyes:
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:27 PM
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36. Thanks for doing the GOP's work, Sean. I swear some people on this board
write like right wing radio talks. So the poorest member of the Senate is suddenly more elite than $109 million Hillary Clinton, eh?

This is of course all an illusion -- I'm sure we could scare up photos of McCain and Clinton fundraisers like this while Obama still has an average donation of $109 and 1 million donors. People like me.
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mindfulNJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:30 PM
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37. I'm sure they served weiners and beer
at this little soiree:


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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:35 PM
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39. Who's being "elitist" now? A bit touchy, eh? How about an Elton John show?
Or maybe Barbra Streisand?
Or some of the other big dogs that hunt with Bill?

Come on... this is truly scraping the barrel.

Can we get back to real issues now?
How about stopping the carnage in Iraq?
How about Darfur?
How about food riots?
How about health insurance? minimum wage? environment?

Last time I looked this was THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA... where we are all supposed to have equality.
I guess not if you're wealthy?
Oh, only if you're wealthy and you hang with the Clintons?


This is sooooo absurd.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:37 PM
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42. You mean SIR Elton John, right?
Sounds like are real regular every day guy to me! :hi:
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:40 PM
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43. I speak Truth to POWER!
but, am for the Hillary the coporate whore...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:17 PM
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59. Be careful....
...some little dwip was all over me this AM cuz I used that bad word "whore" about someone who is in bed with corporate America! Thank gawd for the ignore feature!

:hi:
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:32 PM
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68. Hey Randi, whassup? Staying on the wagon?


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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:40 PM
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44. At least he doesn't hang out with the Bushes, Rove, and/or Penn.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 03:41 PM by anonymous171
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:11 PM
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92. BFF







Corporate heads of Exelon
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:42 PM
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45. More pics from zombietime...
...the racist @&*# who posts at the littlegreenfootballs hate-site. :thumbsup:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:43 PM
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46. Ha!
Another Week, Another Clinton Visit

It will be sense of deja vu when Hillary Clinton comes to Los Angeles on Friday, when she will meet with donors and attend a dinner hosted by Haim Saban. The event is aimed at supporters who commit to raising $25,000 or more each at her upcoming March 24 fund-raising gala.

Clinton was just in California last week, but her supporters are aiming to beat the $1.3 million that Obama raised at his recent shindig at the Beverly Hilton. Other politicos scheduled to visit Los Angeles in the near future include John Edwards and Rudy Giuliani, who each host fund-raisers on Monday, and Bill Richardson, who is planning meetings sometime next week.

Meanwhile, "Save the Date" invites have gone out for the Clinton gala, with Saban and his wife Cheryl, Ron Burkle, Steve Bing, and Debra and Sim Farar listed as the chairs. The event will be held at Burkle's Beverly Hills home.

Other co-chairs include Susan and Scott Corwin, Kimberly and John Emerson, Carol Hamilton and David Kohn, Norman Hsu, Noah Mamet, Lisa and Brad Mindlin, Jane and Marc Nathanson and Laura and Casey Wasserman. More will be announced as the committee is formed.


link: http://www.wilshireandwashington.com/2007/02/index.html

Haim Saban:

In the 1990s, Saban's company became best known for the adaptations of Power Rangers, Masked Rider, VR Troopers and Big Bad Beetleborgs. In 2003 he headed the $5.7 billion purchase of Kirch Media Group, the then-bankrupt German media conglomerate.

In 2001, he and News Corporation sold Fox Family Worldwide for $5.1 billion to The Walt Disney Company for ABC - the network was renamed ABC Family Channel. Saban made about $1.6 billion from this sale, making it the largest transaction between a company and a private citizen ever.

In June 2006, he was part of an investor group led by Texas Pacific Group of Fort Worth, Texas and Thomas H. Lee Partners that won the bid for Univisin, the largest Spanish-language media company in the United States. The bid was for $12.7 billion (USD). Shareholders have filed a lawsuit over the handling of the deal.


link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haim_Saban

Saban with friends:




Bill Clinton speaking @ Saban's home:



GO! GO! Money Rangers!

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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:46 PM
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48. Clinton over played her hand. Polls are now trending in Obamas favor again.. Woops..
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:49 PM
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49. and off the GREATEST---Obama's so-called 'grassroots' camp" is a lie
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:08 PM
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53. Didn't you forget to use the little sarcasm thingy?
Or maybe you just don't even care anymore.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:13 PM
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56. No, i meant what I said. O. promotes it as grassroots but takes money from the biggies.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:22 PM
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63. Do you think that Obama's grassroots support is fiction?
Do you think they are making all of that up?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:53 PM
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76. you missed the point now didn't you. OP is talking about the hyprocracy
of the BO camp as I was.





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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:52 PM
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105. You should look up the meaning of hypocrisy.
There isn't any. Unless you want to argue that his grassroots support doesn't exist.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:03 PM
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51. How is the 2.5 Million Elton John brought in different? Oh by the way how about the Paul trial?
Breaking News! Bill Clinton's Peter Paul Court Date April 25, 2008!
March 19, 2008, 11:22PM

Judge delays setting trial in Clinton fraud case -
But accuser begins seeking sworn testimony from high-profile witnesses

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/break...

Video at:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=700710993777903...

:hide: :popcorn: :hide:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:15 PM
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57. We all know Hill takes big money--BHO hides this fact. He is a sneaky slick man!
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WilyWondr Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:01 PM
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81. Contribution facts 101
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordems.asp?cycle=2...

Number of $4,600 Contributors
Barack Obama..........2,351
Hillary Clinton...........7,965


Number of $200+ Contributors
Barack Obama..........114,992
Hillary Clinton............83,123


What is it with the HRC supporters and their
lack of understanding of numbers?
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:07 PM
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84. It's not. That's the point: Obama's "change" is so much hot air...
It's more of the same.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:09 PM
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54. Dude, before you go peddling your class envy...
Maybe you should look into Hillary's involvement with Peter Paul's illegal fundraiser, and all the down to earth types that attended.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:21 PM
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62. You may have a knee jerk reaction and think the post is about fundraising
but it's not. I thought people would like to know where Obama was when he trashed Middle America and hoped it would be kept quiet.

You know, on the down low.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:07 PM
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85. "Class envy"??? It's so good to be among "progressives"
:puke:
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:38 PM
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107. What do you mean....
This guy posts pictures of rich people in nice houses as if that is a terrible thing...Why not post a picture of Hillary's house!

I do not have the wealth these people have, but many of them are smart successful people and the OP was maligning them for no reason other than their wealth.
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:10 PM
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55. This was featured on freerepublic about a week ago
So with that being said, you're an idiot.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:19 PM
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60. What are you doing on the freeper site?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #60
79. Better question:
What are you doing posting Dem-bashing bullcrap from that site?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:24 PM
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87. This did not come from that site. The pics are from the fundraiser
Those are the homes in the neighborhood, that's the view, Obama entered the event through the servants entrance.

First you guys attack Mayhill whatshername for having the audacity to report on what Obama said, and now

the attacks are because photos from the event are around. Just wait until the video is released,

I predict Sony or Canon will be blamed for making portable cameras.
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:25 PM
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97. I was reading garbage
But that garbage helps me maintain a clearer view of the issues in my opinion. Understanding where my political opponents come from makes me better able to articulate my standpoint in a debate. I think those who surround themselves with only ideological clones are doing a great disservice to themselves intellectually.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:31 PM
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100. I agree.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:21 PM
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61. Yep, just wait , if he by chance gets the GE. you will see the real BO.
The air will be let out of the big balloon.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:27 PM
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65. It was every teenagers dream to move there in the '60's....
and go to Berkeley. Peace, not war, and Free Love 24/7.....and to get away from our parents :D

San Francisco should be proud of their "label", it's truly a beautiful city, inside and out.



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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:59 PM
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80. People's Park....
...Berkeley.... :evilgrin:
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:29 PM
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66. Wow they remind me of what Hilliary's houses look like. eom
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:48 PM
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74. That's Senator Feinstein's neigborhood too
She lives about a block away from Larry Ellison.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:50 PM
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75. Mayhill Fowler who wrote about the "bitter" comment says in this article that not ALL were rich!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-says...

The San Francisco fundraiser was Senator Obama's fourth and final of the day. He had made appearances earlier in Atherton, Marin and around the corner at another Pacific Heights mansion. Even the Obama Campaign, I suppose, can never have too much money. The folks who came out on Sunday were not the very rich, even though these events were for people who have "maxed out" their donations. The very rich have long since given. The fact that so many middle class Californians are giving $2300 to Obama shows both the depth of prosperity in the state and the allure of the scent of victory.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:39 PM
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101. That's because she's a supporter.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:56 PM
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77. So Obama is
supposed to avoid rich people? Somehow I think he is capable of appealing to both rich and poor alike.

THere are a lot of rich people in San Francisco and most of them happen to be Democrats. :eyes:
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:57 PM
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78. Thanks. I didn't know.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 05:06 PM by donkeyotay
Doesn't surprise me though. Not that most here are interested in anything critical about Obama. I just read a Washington Post article about his donors, which include 5 billionaires: Kenneth Griffin of hedge fund Citadel, Neil G Bluhm, Philadelphia casino developer, Nadhmi Auchi, from Iraq and involved with Iragi National Congress member Aiham Alsammarae, a fugitive wanted on corruption charges (with our tax money) in Iraq but living large in Chicago, and James Crown of General Dynamics and on the board at Michelle's (ex?) workplace.

A lot of people are going to be very disappointed in President Obama. I'll take a wild guess and say it's going to be the working class and not the crony class.

Big Donors Among Obama's Grass Roots
'Bundlers' Have a Voice in Campaign

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...



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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:37 PM
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88. Isn't Nadhmi Auchi the guy who Obama's campaign said that he didn't meet?
His name has been coming up in the Rezko trial, something about Obama at a party in his honor and

Auchi wiring 3 million to Rezko to leave the country.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:25 PM
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106. I'm having trouble sorting out the billionaires for Obama
the link I gave above to WaPo says there are five, but doesn't seem to identify them all in the article.

I've got Kenneth Griffin, Neil G Bluhm, and James Crown identified as billionaires in the article, but I'm not sure who the other two are. However, I am sure that the article doesn't mention Nadhmi Auchi or Alsammarai - even though they are billionaires - WaPo does not mention them.

My bad, I should link them here to this article:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25950&page=2

Sure, he's a right-winger, but I understand its okay now because Obama is uniting the country. John Batchelor gives the story about the Rezko-Auchi-Alsammarae relationship. Apparently Obama did attend a party for one of the Iraqi billionaires at Rezko's house, but he doesn't recall meeting them. So, to date, no clear evidence exists of a relationship with Obama and Alsammarae, but it's a fascinating story. Worth reading. Google how our government claimed to be looking for this guy, and he turns out to be in plain sight in Chicago. Makes you wonder.


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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:06 PM
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83. How are those RW attacks on Obama working out for you? Results are in:
:hi:

New Poll Says Most Democrats Prefer Obama as Party's Nominee
By VOA News
http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-04-16-voa40.cfm
16 April 2008

A new opinion poll indicates most U.S. Democrats would prefer to see Senator Barack Obama emerge as the party's presidential nominee despite recent attacks describing him as "elitist."

The poll shows Obama with a 10-point lead over rival Senator Hillary Clinton. It also shows Obama with a two-to-one lead on which of the two Democrats is considered more electable in the general election in November.

The polling took place during a controversy over Obama's remarks describing small-town Americans as "bitter." Both Clinton and Republican presidential candidate John McCain responded by calling Obama "elitist."

The poll was conducted by The Washington Post newspaper and ABC News among a nationwide random sample of about 1,200 adults.

Both Obama and Clinton Wednesday released new television advertisements critical of each other ahead of an April 22 primary in the eastern state of Pennsylvania.

The candidates will hold a televised debate in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Wednesday night.

Obama has won several state nominating primaries or caucuses since the nominating process began in January, and leads in the number of pledged delegates who will select the Democratic nominee at the party's August convention in Denver, Colorado.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:44 PM
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91. Polls , Schmolls. Let's see what the voters in PA say.
Polls had Obama up in CA, Hillary was done in NH if you had gone by the polls.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:44 PM
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90. And, you are supporting whom? Ralph Nader, perhaps, cause all the Dems and McCain hold fundraisers
of this type. If we don't want this, we have to demand public financing of all our federal campaigns. Yet, we don't. Anytime it is mentioned, people bitch that they do no want their money spent on political campaigns.

Obama has raised 41% of his donations from donors who contribute $200 or less, compared to Hillary's 23%.

Get real! This is our system--unless we demand otherwise.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:16 PM
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95. Obama pledged to use public financing.
This post is NOT, I will repeat NOT, about fund raising reform or disgust with fund raising.

This is about Obama talking about people behind their back. He thought his condescension would be

kept private and he could bond with these fat cats by making out small town America as barefoot, backwoods, rednecks.

Have you noticed all the attacks at the Lady who reported this? Obama and his supporters are upset that these words saw the light of day.

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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:12 PM
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93. You mean he was at a ... FUNDRAISER?!?!?
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:15 PM
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94. wheeee! Bashing liberals is fun!!!
Dont you think all the Clintons properties could match up with this? Oh, sorry. I forgot we were pretending the Clintons werent rich.
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nuncvendetta Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:25 PM
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98. You do realize that a lot of Bay Area money is "new money" right?
A lot of these Bay Area individuals who are rich now aren't trust-fund babies, but people who came up with a savvy idea that took flight in Silicon Valley and then beyond - people whose wealth came from sweat, blood, and tears, not from a wink and a nod. As such, I think that they aren't so out of touch that they don't appreciate the normative principles behind liberal positions as the "wealth proxy" may connote elsewhere.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:48 PM
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103. Your post comes off a little bitter
But you raise a good point. You never see Clinton hobnobbing with the wealthy. I mean, not counting Scaife & Murdoch.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:41 PM
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109. Next time he should go fundraise at the soup kitchen
:eyes:
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:41 PM
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110. he was speaking to his base
and his mask fell off in the process.

kinda reminds me of w.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:57 PM
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112. I used to live a couple blocks from where the event was
Great town. I'm glad your fat fucking ass has never been there.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:57 PM
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113. He was trying to EXPLAIN to these richies
what people in small, Rust-belt towns are like! They have probably never set foot in one. So Obama, who has, has to explain these folks to them. I'm just surprised that all these rich people were giving to Obama and not to McSame or Hillary.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:59 PM
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114. More nonsense from bullshit2submission
When do we get our ignore lists back?
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115. Kicking to remind people that the video is coming!
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