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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:19 AM
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Clinton pressing Obama to disclose tax returns for all of public life, not just the Senate years.
Clinton Campaign letter to Any and All Interested Parties:

For all of Sen. Obama's rhetoric about the need for tax return transparency, you'd think he'd have released all of his tax records. Guess again.

For weeks, Sen. Obama and his campaign relentlessly demanded that Hillary release all of her tax returns even though 20-years of them were already publicly available. His campaign held an endless string of conference calls, issued press releases and flooded the airwaves with surrogates attacking Hillary for not immediately releasing the returns for the last few years she has been in public life.

Sen. Obama said the American people "deserve to know where you get your income from," stressing the need for "full transparency" and bragging that his campaign has "set the bar." ...whats the hold-up of Obama's Tax Returns and his State Senate records?

Well, Hillary released tax returns earlier this month and is now the only candidate in this race who has made thirty years worth of tax returns public.

But despite his rhetoric, Sen. Obama doesn't abide by the standards he sets for others.

Sen. Obama has refused to release his tax returns for 1997, 1998 and 1999, even though he was in public life as a state senator during those years. During this period of time, Sen. Obama was accepting contributions from special interest lobbyists, PACs and even directly from corporations.


In fact, Sen. Obama has a habit of demanding higher standards of transparency for others than for himself. The National Archives has released hundreds of thousands of pages of documents from Hillary's years as first lady, including her entire schedule. Throughout the campaign, Sen. Obama has demanded Hillary release more documents, even though they are not under her control. Meanwhile, Sen. Obama refuses to release any documents that are more than three years old. At first, Sen. Obama and his campaign told the press that he had records from his state senate years. Later, he said he threw them all out.

Whether it's tax returns or legislative records or his relationship with indicted political fixer Tony Rezko, Senator Obama seems to take "the dog ate my homework" approach to disclosure.

When it comes to transparency, the only thing transparent about Senator Obama is his claim to be transparent.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/04/clinton_pressin...














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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:23 AM
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1. Fair is fair, he demanded it, time for him to step up to the plate also

oh and also, he needs to track down those Senate records from Illinois or have they "mysteriously" disappeared into thin air.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:25 AM
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3. I thought I read somewhere he destroyed most of his senate files.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:27 AM
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4. Obama said he has a problem misplacing papers...
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:28 AM
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5. Tad convenient theres no record to check on

That to me says quite frankly, gotten rid off so as not to cause significant trouble.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:41 AM
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22. agreed.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:58 AM
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42. His voting record is public record
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #42
64. Agreed. But it is convenient that what he demands of others...
...he just can't do because he happened to "destroy" all his records. How can you get rid of yours and then demand others to disclose theirs?
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:34 AM
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59. And pushing buttons. n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:23 AM
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2. Obama is a fraud that the media wants so as to give McCain the win
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:28 AM
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6. This is one of the stupidest anti-Obama posts I have ever seen.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 10:28 AM by bowens43
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:32 AM
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11. Crikey.
There are so many to choose from and you pick this?
What about the one that said he does not eat collard greens?
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:39 AM
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20. The "He fathered a black child" thread dropped like a stone too n/t
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:47 AM
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34. Gosh!
That's terrible.

But where are his taxes?

What is he hiding?

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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:33 AM
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12. the reality is that even if he did take PAC money before, if he stopped in 2000...
then that would be good enough for me.

He concluded that it was bad, and stopped doing it. It is called intelligence.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:33 AM
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13. Debunk it if you can...
G-Bye!
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:34 AM
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15. They cant debunk it, she's released the records, he refuses to

simple yes or no.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #15
68. They still wont release the Clinton Library records
and she only released the tax records because of the constant requests. She had no choice. Obama voluntarily released his records. That's transparency. What do the Clintons have to hide?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:31 AM
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9. And why the Free media pass from the msm...
Obama and his followers think it's because they Luuurve him!

:shrug:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #9
17. LOL - very true -gosh it would be nice to be 50 years younger and that naive! :-)
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #2
38. The OP is a fraud and not really that bright
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #2
63. ..
:thumbsup:
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:29 AM
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7. He should release those records
Fair is fair
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:30 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. I'm sure theres stuff in there, he does not want us to see, you can bank on it
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:34 AM
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14. FYI - everything is released
You just have to find 'em. We Obama supporters know where ti is, it's just that the Clinton folks aren't too smart to know where it is.

Hawkeye-X
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:42 AM
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26. No it hasn't
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #7
48. The Letter to Obama was sent yesterday..
notice the prognosticators down thread.

Hillary hasn't seen the Tax Returns but they have...
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:32 AM
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10. That cartoon speaks volumes...
all loud and ugly.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #10
16. boy does it ever...perhaps white liberals should be deeply offended...maybe even bitter
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:45 AM
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31. But where are Obama's Tax Returns... You were screaming about Hillary's last week
What is Obama trying to hide? hmm.. perhaps Rezko money...good stuff, the GOP will uncover with relish !

Thanks for the hard work from Y'all. Anytime we need another election failure..leave your contact numbers on this thread!
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:49 AM
Response to Reply #31
35. sure, my contact number is BR-549
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #10
18. Exactly. It's just one of the daily race baiting threads that you can set your watch to.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #10
19. actually, the artist was trying to portray
Obama as walking on the backs of Americans, who think he walks on water. Read the T-Shirt captions.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:41 AM
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24. I read the tee-shirt captions, that is what makes that
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 10:42 AM by Skidmore
cartoon bigoted.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:43 AM
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27. the t-shirts say that white liberals support and think he walks on water because of their guilt
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 10:44 AM by virtualobserver
talk about a condescending generalization
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:02 AM
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45. Art appreciation...
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 11:04 AM by SOS
Since you are a fan of reactionary cartoons, perhaps you will enjoy Mike Lester's depiction of your candidate as well?

Enjoy!



Fostergate??!!!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #45
52. What else is new?
It's you people who can't take any criticism whatsoever.. we're used to the daily grind here.. nothing new!
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #52
55. You realize it's the same cartoonist as in your OP?
Since you seem to be a fan of his work, I just thought you might enjoy his take on HDC.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:40 AM
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21. I wonder which right-wing site the OP got it from, as with the rest of their material?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:41 AM
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23. please remove that fucking racist cartoon from your post.
:puke:
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #23
29. Why would they... they think racism is cool...
...because some uppity black man is "stealing" the presidency from her highness.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #29
30. it certainly isn't the first display of bigotry from the op...`
sad...
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #30
41. Those words are a replay of Rev Wrights racist words..
in case you need someone to spell it out for you!

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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #41
54. What does Rev. Wright have to do with this conversation...
Is he running for president... did I miss something?
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #30
58. Yup. Had a thread locked just yesterday for posting racist shit.
We won't talk about the fact that it took 200 posts (and god knows how many alerts) before it was locked, but at least it was finally locked for being racist trash.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #58
74. i think this thread needs more alerts then...
cause it's still going strong!
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #23
57. Seconded.
I'm so sick of the racism coming from Hillary supporters. They should be ashamed. ALL of them.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #23
73. It would be easier to remove the burning cross from their rectum.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:42 AM
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25. Obama released every tax record that he has asked of Clinton
Just because her's were released during her time as first lady...doesn't mean he asked for her 90's tax returns. Would he even still have his tax returns from the 90's.

After all the foot-dragging from the Clinton campaign to release her recent tax returns... it's absurd that she is suddenly so outraged that he hasn't released decade old tax reterns.

You must really be blind if you can't see Hillary's hypocracy on this issue.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:44 AM
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28. Yes he did ask for her 90's returns
Where are his?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #28
33. Do you have a link to him asking for her 90's returns???
I am pretty sure he didn't. So, I call you out on this. Link-up or shutup.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:52 AM
Response to Reply #25
40. What about Obama's State Senate Records?
Why is he trying to hide them?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #40
67. State senators don't make it priority to keep track of their records...
You must provide proof that they keep track of their "records"(whatever that entails) in order to make some absurd demand for them.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:46 AM
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32. ouch!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:49 AM
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36. This is really charming....
Almost the bottom of the barrel in terms of Fauxrage.

I'm sure there'll be one or two more tantrums thrown.

I think I know what it might be about:

(BARAAAWKK!!!rezko rezko rezko BRAAWWWAK!!! rezko rezko rezko BRAWWWWAAWK!!!!!rezko rezko rezko BARAK!!!! rezko rezko)

You'd think modern high schools would make it easier for students to do better research, demand more varied approaches to character assassination. Oh, yeah.

No: Child Left Behind.

Nevermind.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #36
39. "Manufactoversy".
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #39
46. I'M STEALING THAT!!!!
LOL


manufactoversy!!!


:rofl: :rofl:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:05 AM
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47. As well you should. I did. :P
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #36
53. I missed the smell of Righteous Indignation...
Thanks for providing me the opportunity..


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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:50 AM
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37. LOL!!
What's he hiding?!?!??!?!?!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:00 AM
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43. Exactly!
Funny how they always look for an escape to never address the topic title. I've seen some stoop to typo ridicule when nothing else is available to complain about. <sigh>
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:01 AM
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44. Maybe, he forgot to file?
:shrug:
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:06 AM
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49. How many kitchen sinks does that woman have? EOM
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:07 AM
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50. Funny, "white liberal guilt" used to be used by the Right Wing.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:10 AM
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51. What?!?
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 11:49 AM by Kajsa
'Clinton pressing Obama to disclose tax returns for all of public life, '

yet she wouldn't disclosed ANY of hers until April 4th , 2008?


Records show she and Bill have amassed quite a bit of wealth.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-ta...

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:23 AM
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56. You must donate a lot to this site.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:35 AM
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60. LOL she cracks me up
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:21 PM
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61. It WOULD be interesting to see his tax returns from the 90's
Cmon Senator Obama, release yours for the same years Senator Clinton's are public for. And if you won't then explain why not.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:23 PM
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62. Step up, Obama....
show us your tax returns.

Great post.

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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:35 PM
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65. What's with the bullshit racist cartoon in your sig?
Please remove it.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:38 PM
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66. I would rather see candidate's tax returns from BEFORE public life
instead of when they are in office. Anyone with a brain will avoid shady deals, contribute more to charity, etc. when they know it is being scrutinized. However, a better sign of their convictions is how they behaved when they did not think they were being watched.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:44 PM
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69. I can't imagine Obama's tax returns prior to public life would be too
exciting, although now that I think of it, it could benefit him greatly if he released them. It would show, once and for all, he's a man from humble roots and not an elitist. Unlikely he made millions of dollars as a neighborhood organizer.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:47 PM
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70. i'm drowning in her hypocrisy
after waiting so long to release her own. Doesn't she have any sense of shame?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:10 PM
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71. Bitter-gate fails, Hillary manufactures another distraction
Obama tax returns dating to 1997...


When Obama posted his 2000 to 2006 tax returns on his site, the information was already released, just not posted.

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