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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:51 AM
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Poll question: Born in the USA v. Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
NT
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:54 AM
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1. I prefer "Hot With Fleas" by Severed Heads.
Music that is for airplay is, well, not me.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:55 AM
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2. Hillary Does Believe In Outsourcing


....she doesn't even use American talent for fund raisers....

.....guess because she comes off as bitter to many.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:27 PM
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68. I prefer Springsteen's energy myself

Elton's music is in the category of 'adult contemporary,' aka elevator music.

...or the kind that makes me want to lie down and take a nap.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:55 AM
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3. no contest
from a life-long Bruce fan. Bruce is still a relevant artist while Elton has become a Diva
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:30 AM
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23. Elton's "Candle in the Wind" was pretty relevant a few years past...
... and even had him make a remake of it in some more recent sad days.

Elton's a great artist. Bruce is as well. But Bruce has America's soul in his heart! There's not many musicians that I feel vocalize the stories of the mainstream American middle class the way that Bruce has over the years! And he's still at it, albeit as an older artist. His "Vote for Change" concert tour he lead in the election in 2004 is a clear example of how he CARES to help us get the right leadership for our country for all of us!
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:56 AM
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4. That's like choosing between being kicked in the left testicle or the right.
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:33 AM
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26. You owe me a keyboard. n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:56 AM
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5. I'm an Obama supporter, but I do prefer Goodbye Yellow Brick Road.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:39 PM
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47. same here
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:59 AM
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6. I'll take Elton at his peak vs. Bruce at his peak ANY DAY
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:59 AM by Romulox
One man wrote pop music masterpieces. The other one wrote maudlin tavern rock sung with a mouth full of marbles. No contest, imo.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:02 AM
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7. one wrote Disney tunes, the other wrote the definitive song of the 1970s
and put out the definitive rock album of the 80s.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:14 AM
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12. The case for Bruce is greatly weakened by the existence of this man:


Bruce is merely splashing about in his wake...
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:55 AM
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28. I saw that show
at the Garden Rom...Muhammad Ali actually took a call live on the stage from Rubin Hurricane Carter
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:20 PM
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35. Hey Magic Rat, did you take your screen name from a character on the "Born to Run" album? nt
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:16 AM
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13. "Pop music masterpieces"
I'm not going to argue that Elton John didn't have some great songs. But "pop music masterpieces"? Surely you have to realize what an oxymoron that is.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:18 AM
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16. Not in the least. Today's pop culture = tomorrow's classics
Bill Shakespeare, e.g., or opera, e.g. See also Jazz.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:29 PM
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42. Yes masterpieces
They are only considered pop because they were picked up by pop radio stations.

And I support Obama too but would put Elton John on a much higher level musically than Bruce Springsteen. Yes I like Bruce too. But Elton John is the master Bruce will never be.

In fact, I suspect Bruce would likely be embarrassed if he saw this poll.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:16 AM
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14. That's my take on it too. I've always loved Elton, but Bruce has only had a
handful of songs that I really liked.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:53 AM
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27. then you never saw either one
AT their peaks Romulox-with all due respect. I saw Bruce the first time in 1975 (Born To Run tour) and Elton in 72 (Honky Chateau)...I was an Elton freak back then but there was NO comparison in what I saw...not even close. Bruce was like...well kind of like what Obama is now
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:31 PM
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30. Aye. That was before my time, though I remember the "Born in the USA" era well. nt
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:34 PM
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44. I saw them both and Elton was lightyears ahead of Bruce
Much more diverse, a larger body of work, more top selling albums - Elton John is a master. Bruce is a star. There's a big difference.

And nothing beats Elton John's stage show.

That being said I voted for Born in the USA because I like that song better than Yellow Brick Road. But then again, this is a rather silly poll. A better one would be comparing Crocodile Rock to Born in the USA. It's silly to compare a ballad to a rock anthem.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:01 PM
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49. Yup. I've seen some terrific artists. But there is truly no one
who puts on a show like Bruce does. No one even comes close.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:07 PM
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56. if that Clinton supporter above us
had actually SEEN both then he wouldn't be spouting off that nonsense JGCT
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:59 PM
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58. I think that's true! It seems that once someone has declared in
favor of Obama, suddenly they become less talented in some eyes!
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:58 PM
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65. LOLOL, Now you can tell who someone supports by their Itunes list. nt
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Royal Oak Rog Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:30 PM
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60. Elton wrote nothing
Bernie Taupin was his writer, Bruce wrote his own American masterpieces! I'm sure in your world Woody Guthrie and Bob Dylan don't compare to the Enlish version of Liberace either.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:57 PM
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63. I posted a pic of Bob Dylan circa 1975 upthread, dummy. nt
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:10 AM
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8. No Hillary4U&Me!
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:47 PM
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33. ACK!!!!
Thanks for nothin'!!
:rofl:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:11 PM
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52. Play it 80 or 90 times in a row.
It starts to stick! :D
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:11 AM
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9. Elton John was great at writing bubble gum music
if you like that sort of thing. Me, I'll take Springsteen any day.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:12 AM
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10. Here's an interesting story about Harley-Davidson, Elton and Bruce, and their anniversary parties
Here in Milwaukee, H-D threw a 100th birthday bash five years ago. Thousands of bikers came in from all over the country. It was a huge, huge event among the Harley crowd. Jay Leno and a bunch of other celebrities even rolled in. H-D threw a party on the lakefront, enlisted a few country bands, a couple rockers, and for some reason, Kid Rock, all the while promoting a super secret surprise headliner. When that headliner turned out to be Elton John, there was almost a mass revolt. People were beyond pissed. It was a P.R. nightmare of epic proportions.

Fast-forward to the 105th. They did it smart and signed Springsteen right away. Harley riders were a bit pissed, but that was because when tickets went on sale, the whole H-D site crashed in mere minutes due to the massive, massive number of online ticket sale requests. And Springsteen just played in town a couple weeks ago.

People are really pumped up about this year's party, most certainly more than the Elton John fiasco from 2003.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:13 AM
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11. Make it tougher
How about "Thunder road" vs "Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters".
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:16 AM
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15. "Rocketman" vs. "Dancing in the Dark"!
:rofl:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:34 PM
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31. This Elton John song works for me:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:36 PM
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45. Yes, you get it
The two songs in the poll are two different genres.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:01 PM
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50. That's tougher???
One of the greatest songs ever, and "Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters"...

No contest to me.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:47 PM
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61. Springsteen and Elton John are two of the best.
I would have a hard time picking any better songs than "Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters", "Burn down the Mission" and "Funeral for a Friend".

But Thunder Road, Backstreets and Streets of Philadelphia, are right up there.

Picking musicians on the basis of which Democrat they prefer is so... Dixie Chicks.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:18 PM
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66. I'll heartily endorse your final thought! nt
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:22 AM
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17. Elton's first few albums were really cool
1970 Tumbleweed Connection
1971 Madman Across The Water
1972 Honky Chateau
1973 Don't Shoot Me I'm Only The Piano Player
1973 Goodbye Yellow Brick Road

After that, I thought most of his stuff was overproduced and corny...

Bruce's stuff has been consistently better and political, especially the last few albums...
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:28 AM
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20. 1975 Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy wasn't overproduced
or corny!

How dare you!!!!! :wow: That was Bernie Taupin's best work.

:P
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:39 PM
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46. My very favorite Elton John is 11-17-70
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11-17-70

BEST version of Honky Tonk Woman ever. Yes, even better than the Rolling Stones.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:02 PM
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51. Exactly
There was something to the really early stuff. After that, hackery.

Bruce continues to create new music that stays relevant.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:23 AM
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18. It should be "Philadelphia Freedom" vs. "Streets of Philadelphia"
Streets, baby!

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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:32 AM
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25. Good match up!
Streets
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:25 AM
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19. None of the Above
Backstreets, Jungleland, Born to Run....those are better options.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:29 AM
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21. I like both Bruce and Elton and I'm for Obama!!!!!!!!
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:29 AM
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22. nobody beats the boss
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:31 AM
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24. Forget either! TSOP by MFSB
A Philadelphia group with a Philadelphia producer in a Philadelphia production studio singing "The Sound of Philadelphia"!

So there!! :P :P :P :P
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:58 AM
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29. Gamble and Huff
friggin rocked-man they were two funny MFers too-I saw an interview with them some years ago and they made you friggin laugh-I wonder if there's anything on YouTube with that interview?
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:37 PM
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32. They are still active in the area...
Unfortunately Gamble got dragged into the mess with HUD chief Alfonso Jackson but outside of that, both have put alot of time and $$ into the city.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:49 PM
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34. it's a cool city
Philly
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:22 PM
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39. We are scraping the rust off and finding shiny steel underneath!
Thanks! :hi:
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:21 PM
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36. Love'em both but have to go with "Born in the USA"
A terribly misunderstood song but when you read the lyrics, a powerful one.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:21 PM
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37. I want to be sedated.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:57 PM
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55. ^^^ What he said.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:22 PM
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38. Johnny 99 from Nebraska!
great tunes by the man...
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:23 PM
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40. None of the above.
Pop isnt my thing.
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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:25 PM
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41. Politically - Bruce. Musically - Elton.
"Born to Run" is one of my all time favorite albums but "Born in the USA" is self indulgent crap.

Have to go with Elton on this one even though he is supporting the wrong candidate.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:33 PM
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43. Won't vote
I love both songs quite well. I support Obama but Elton is NOT dead to me.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:59 PM
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48. Always Springsteen. Please
Though Born in the USA is not his best, IMO.

Born to Run is the "desert island" disc I'd need. I never tire of it.
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:15 PM
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53. Neither. I'll take "After the goldrush" or "John Wesley Harding" over either of those. n/t
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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:18 PM
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54. Are we talking the songs or the albums?
Either way, the debate should be Nebraska vs. Tumbleweed Connection. That one's just about a draw.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:11 PM
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57. Gotta be "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road"
Are people here voting based on who the artists who recorded these songs supported rather than the actual songs? (I know: dumb question.) But really, there are a number of Springsteen songs I love, but I can't get past that overly slick eighties production on "Born in the U. S. A." in order to be able to think that highly of it. "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road", on the other hand, is one of Elton's best songs.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:17 PM
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59. Bruce is the working class hero. WE WERE BORN TO RUUUNNNN!!
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:51 PM
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62. Someone saved my life tonight - Elton's suicide attempt in '68
is a better coimparison. Captain Fantastic, was about as deep as Elton every got:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia-s7rY175k&feature=related

Springsteen - The end of Born in the USA is extraordinary (especially the live set). 'Oh my God no' then the tough guy persona dissolves into a screams of real trauma.
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Frumious B Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:57 PM
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64. I'll take Springsteen over Elton, but I'll take vintage Floyd over either.
Roger Waters' lyrics have actually had a huge amount of influence on my political thinking and he just came out for Obama a few days ago.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:22 PM
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67. Gabba gabba hey!
Bonzo goes to Bitterberg.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:56 PM
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69. my work is never done---kerry and the boss-- madison wisconsin



will barack and bruce rock madison this year?
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