Is this HRC's Dukakis photo?

[truthpusher]

Hmmmm...



....You bet ya it is!

[Eurobabe]

1. Is there a fly on her nose or something? She looks awfully focused.

[truthpusher]

4. focused on losing! (sorry couldn't help myself).

[PoliticalAmazon]

71. People are laughing at her desperate antics now. This is a bad reflection on Democrats...

...and on our country.

There is a long list now of stupid campaign maneuvers. Her campaign appears to be about as well organized as a box full of ferets.

People are laughing at her politics. We're used to people laughing at Clinton's DickGates, and have grown comfortable (and that is REALLY a shame) with being stained by his behavior and sense of judgment.

But now it's different. Laughing at a candidate because they are desperate and grasping at anything to win, because their political judgment is so, so wrong, and because she is unable to lead her own campaign....that's a lot more serious.

It reflects on Democrats and the Democratic Party, and in a very bad way. Because she is our candidate, and especially since Democrats still support her, it makes us look WORSE than the Republicans.

Even in their worst unethical tactics, at least Rove/BushJr led a well-organized, effective campaign. We can't even say that for her.

Enough. We need to win the GE, and she is dragging us down. We can't win if our hard work puts us one step closer to winning and one of her incredible blunders drags us two steps back.

She has to go. Even if she wins PA, it's obvious that she is clueless about leading a campaign, and that means her campaign will have the same problems n the GE it has had in the primary, and that she has real problems with being an effective leader.

We need to move on. She needs to go. Enough.

[marshall]

76. She really does look foolish slogging back the brew

Did she belch and scratch herself after she was done?

[Barack_America]

2. I still can't get over that staffer in the background...

Who seems to sense that this is not such a good idea...

:rofl:

[Symarip]

7. He's definitely having an "OH SHIT" moment nt

[datopbanana]

50. wish we could see the look on his face during this pic

[PoliticalAmazon]

73. We all should be having an "oh shit" moment over this. It was another...

...of her unending political blunders. She caved in to peer pressure, for heaven's sake, and did something that made her look ridiculous.

By extension, she makes Democrats and the Democratic Party look ridiculous, and people are now laughing at her and, I fear, at us, too. And that is NOT good for our chances in the GE.

We need to win this freaking GE. She needs to leave the race now before she destroys our chances in November.

[Hieronymus]

3. Yes, I do believe it is. That's one hell of a big shot.

[IntravenousDemilo]

5. Dunno, but it sure is funny. n/m

[IndianaGreen]

6. Hillary offended voters in Kentucky by drinking a CANADIAN whiskey

instead of good old Bourbon.

[FlyingSquirrel]

9. zOMG WHISKEYGATE!!!!!!!!!!

She has dead-tired eyes every time I see her.

[Barack_America]

18. Figures, she's a NAFTA lover, after all

;)

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

40. its Canadian whiskey, isn't it?

thought I heard that on the video at you tube.

[Bigleaf]

43. It is Canadian. Made in Gimli, Manitoba, I believe for you aviation buffs like myself.

Gimli Glider? Air Canada? Anyone remember that? Anyhow, Crown is my drink. Great stuff.

[Barack_America]

82. Yep. Then bottled in Windsor, ON and shipped over to the US via the Ambassador bridge...

In Detroit. :D

[TLM]

21. How very elitist of her....

The queen drinks crown... fitting.

[napoleon_in_rags]

8. These pics would be cute if they were spontaneous.

Its just in the context of the "bitter" ad and so forth that they become tainted.

[Warren DeMontague]

10. What's funny is, just last week she made answering the phone at 3am the centerpiece of her campaign.

She's gonna be a fucking WRECK at 3 am, after all those shots. Voters are gonna hope she's not the one making the 3 am phone calls.

[IndianaGreen]

11. That's why she was awake at 3 AM. She was up all night drinking wondering

where Bill was.

[SoCalDem]

47. She might still be at the BAR..pounding them down..

The emergency call would go to voice mail :)

[gristy]

12. What was she thinking? What the hell was she thinking?

Oh yeah. "I'm running for prez and I can shoot 'em with the best of 'em. Oh, yeah." Not.

[TLM]

31. Simple answer... she is such a real elitist... that she assumed

Rural = drunk.

So she wanted to show how earthy and rural she can be.... by getting shit faced the way she assumes all rural folks do.

See, I'm just like you... I can guzzle down booze and shoot guns too.

[Hippo_Tron]

48. Yup and apparently them rural folks get drunk off of Crown Royal

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/14/obama.clinton/

[Unsane]

13. Is Hillary cross-eyed?

[goclark]

15. Don't think she is cross eyed ~ just focused on that drink

and praying that she can get it in her mouth quickly.

I've known people with drinking problems that look at a drink that way.

[Unsane]

16. We don't need another alki-head in the WH

[Hoof Hearted]

25. .

[goclark]

45. Right you are ~

Don't forget the "Girls Gone Wild" Bush Twins.

[Colobo]

14. I don't even know what to think about that picture.

[goclark]

17. Maybe AA can help us think

I'm really starting to wonder....

What would make her think that would be a vote winning idea?

If that works for her campaign --- God help us all.

[Hoof Hearted]

27. something like this?

[catgirl]

59. At least he's sipping beer, not putting away a shot

I see nothing embarrassing about this. You keep showing it like you
can compare the two.

Hillary's was staged and she looks ridiculous. People drink shots for
one purpose only, and that's to get drunk.

[Florida22ndDistrict]

63. re: At least he's sipping beer, not putting away a shot

Generally that is the point of alcohol. Drugs have an intended effect on the body, and that is why we use them. Please don't tell me you drink wine or beer only for the flavor. LOL. No matter if you are drinking a few beers, a few glasses of wine, or a few shots you intend to get a buzz, relax a bit, and generally socialize with people around you.

[catgirl]

67. I like a glass wine with dinner

or a cold beer on a hot day. Not saying I'm an angel, but there is a BIG difference
between enjoying a drink vs. slamming down a shot of whiskey followed by a
chaser.

And yes, I enjoy the flavor of dark beer and good red wine- at home even(!).
You're seem to be missing the point here though.

[Florida22ndDistrict]

69. What point would that be? False outrage?

I enjoy the flavor of a good beer or a good red wine as well, but I don't drink alcohol for the flavor. I'm willing to bet that when you had your first drink, you weren't thinking to yourself, wow this taste great. Alcoholic beverages are an acquired taste. Like most of us I'm sure you like to drink in moderation to catch a small buzz and relax. Feel free to drop the facade and an accept that Clinton deserves a drink every now and then just as much as you.

[catgirl]

86. She can drink all she wants for all I care

The shot photo op was just silly in my opinion.

[baldguy]

78. What's wrong with wanting a local beer?

That's what beer is SUPPOSED to be - not some vacuum packed, manufactured, mass-produced, plastic swill trucked in from 1000 mi away. Each neighborhood had its own brewery. You knew the guy who made your beer. You knew his family; you knew his kids.

Better enjoying a real beer than chugging a gallon of Budswill for a phony photo-op.



Just look at that "beer" she has: no color, no body, no head. You can tell that it tastes like shit.


Hillary isn't a beer drinker; Obama is.

[Unsane]

20. It sets a horrible example.

thousands are killed by drunk drivers every year, and you have a presidential candidate downing whiskey shots like an idiot.

[goclark]

26. My fears exactly

What kind of role model does that set for our young adults?

She seems to be having the time of her life with that shot glass.

Have not seen her so happy during the entire campaign.

Remember Bill covering for her with the "misspeaks" saying how tired she was ~

The puzzle pieces are beginning to fit and it's not a pretty picture in my mind.

What is so telling is the look on the faces of the men, they are not buying into it at all.

[Hoof Hearted]

28. A role model like this?

[goclark]

41. I'm sorry but I'm a Senior and a Woman and Men

at a Bar can get away with so much more than women can.

It's not so much that she is drinking but how she is taking the shot.

Is there a double standard, YES for women being in Bars and drinking with the "good old boys."

Most women that I know that are her age, especially running for office, would use better judgment.
Especially someone ready to answer the phone at 3 PM.



Just my opinion.

[Voltaire99]

68. Oh for Christ's sake, you prudes make me sick.

Quit it with the false piety already. You bloody well know if Obama were chugging one you'd be, "Yeah! Man of the people!"

Despise Hillary for the reasons that count -- her godawful imperial plutocratic politics -- not this dishonest simpering about her having a drink.

[Florida22ndDistrict]

64. re: It sets a horrible example.

Yeah, I'm sure Clinton drives her own bus. :sarcasm:

[rockymountaindem]

72. Not to downplay that fact, but

as far as we know she had one shot and one beer. Even if she were driving herself (obviously she's not), as long as she spent a little time there to allow it to settle, there's no way she would have been drunk. I think it was a bad photo op (particularly with the Canadian whiskey in light of the NAFTA flap), but tying it to drunk driving is going a little overboard.

[DesertFlower]

19. very presidential.

:sarcasm:

[ampad]

22. What is wrong with her eyes?

It looks like she is trying to will herself to take that shot. I cannot say I blame her because hard liquor is nasty.

[jzodda]

23. "This smells like Urine but if I don't drink it I will insult the owner of the bar"

So let me look REALLY hard at it before I try to drink it down :D

[TLM]

38. DRINK WHAT... I thought they asked if I wanted a shot at being crowned royalty. n/t

[TLM]

24. Hard to say which looks like more of a phony. n/t

[Hoof Hearted]

30. That one? Or this one?

[TLM]

37. LOL Not even close....

Look at that picture.... Hillary might as well be holding a cat turd from the look on her face.

Obama looks like a guy drinking a beer... Hillary looks like a teenager trying to fit in with the older college kids.

"Bergon and water?"

[Divine Discontent]

29. it certainly will NOT help, that's a certainty

because that's the one photo my mom has mentioned about HRC in the past few months, saying how bad she looked doing that, and silly.


I couldn't agree more.

[Cha]

32. It's surreal..definetly not the photo

op she should have been going for
if she weren't so desperate.



Jon Stewart absolutely had her number on his show Monday night when he asked if she were running for president or pledging?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x118877

[bridgit]

33. Pft, you have no concept of how important distilled spirits are in America do you?

:patriot:

[Ned_Devine]

34. She didn't even really drink the shot, which I believe is even worse

If you watch the video, you see her put it to her lips, but the liquid level stays the same after she's done. So what's worse; Her having a shot to pretend to be one of the "regular folk", or pretending to have a shot to pretend to be one of the "regular folk"?

[TheDonkey]

55. I noticed that, she was sipping it

Just a very bizarre event. She should have just not HAD shots. You are in front of cameras. That's cool if she wants to drink but damn don't start slammin them down during a campaign.

[The_Casual_Observer]

35. No

[Cha]

36. This Dad thinks it's "inexcusably foolish or inexcusably calculating.

<snips>

"Fortunately, my daughters already know that what Clinton did is wrong. At a supposedly irresponsible age, they know it's not cool to misuse alcohol to "fit in." Even for adults, even to win a big election, it's just. not. cool.

But Hillary Clinton -- the candidate who trumpets her experience and worldliness as predictors of her supposed good judgment -- doesn't seem to have figured that out. She's drinking in public to look cool and win votes. For the first woman with a serious shot at the White House to trumpet an unhealthy kind of drinking in order to gain publicity points, is to display either an utter tone-deafness to her role as a model for America's girls (and even adults), or a culpable willingness to ignore her moral compass in order to win. She's either inexcusably foolish or inexcusably calculating; take your pick."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5518581

[dkf]

39. Yeah, she's getting called out by the kids...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5510636&mesg_id=5510636

[Cha]

89. Thanks for that link, dfk.

hilary has no judgement ..it's all about politics.

[goclark]

44. Very good point

Where is the judgment?

[Cha]

90. hilary doesn't do good "judgement"..

remember the IWR? She does politics.

[Jim Sagle]

42. No.

[Hippo_Tron]

46. Not that I actually give a shit that Hillary drinks Crown...

But she either needs to walk the walk or alternatively get off her high horse. It's hard to take you seriously when your strategy is about highlighting the supposed differences between the "working class" and "latte liberals" and you clearly don't fit into the group that you claim to represent.

Again, I have no problem with someone who says that they can represent working class values and drinks expensive whiskey. I do have a problem with someone who claims they represent working class values, drinks expensive whiskey, and then smears their opponent calling them an elitist.

[stratomagi]

49. You should rethread this with a Caption this pic title.

[FVZA_Colonel]

51. Eh, that just seems like a stretch.

I just don't think the image of someone having a good drink has the staying power "Dukakis on a tank" does.

[nemo137]

52. She looks like she's never seen alcohol before.

"What is this strange fluid?"

Although, in her defense, my prom date's dad was a Marine NCO, and Crown Royal was his drink of choice, so it's possible that Jon Stewart was off base making fun of her there. Still would have rather seen her drink bourbon.

[TheDonkey]

53. Bottom's up!

:rofl: wtf???

[TLM]

54. Hillary's TANKED picture.... n/t

[Froward69]

56. I think she

had been thinking of that drink since super tuesday.

[Jawja]

57. Yes it is.

One way to kill any momentum you might have from a GAFFE committed by your opponent is to "jump the shark" in your quest to take advantage.

This only reminds Independents and unhappy Republicans that George W. Bush was a "guy you'd like to have beer with" who has destroyed our military, our economy, our security and our honor.

[indimuse]

58. Is Obama's SFO comment ,his "Ma-kaka" MOMENT???

"Ma-kaka" Clinging to...... "Ma-kaka" ....??????????

[BooScout]

60. How old are you?

12? :eyes:

[Kahuna]

61. Yeppers!

:thumbsup:

[Florida22ndDistrict]

62. Americans drink a lot of alcohol.

Why would you think that people would be offended by a presidential candidate having a few drinks and getting to know some people. For those suggesting she was drinking crown royal to relate to rural folks, I suggest you get some sleep. Hard liquor and wine are for the large part consumed by people on the two coasts in more populated areas. The rest of the country is a beer drinking nation. You act like she put on overalls kicked her feet up onto a hay bail and popped open a bud. She had a few shots, its not like she was doing a keg stand or swigging from a bottle or anything.

[DeeDeeNY]

65. That picture is a total embarrassment

Gun-totin, hard drinkin Hillary is just not believable.

[Frumious B]

66. This race has been so hard on her that it has driven her to the bottle.

What a dirty damned rotten shame.

[MethuenProgressive]

70. Obama's very photogenic!

You just know he's practiced his Benito Mussolini pose in the mirror!

[PVnRT]

74. No, there's a difference

Hillary may look a little odd there, but Dukakis just looks like a fucking idiot riding in that tank.

[DeeDeeNY]

79. But the similarity between these pictures is the phoniness

One thing the electorate picks up on is who is genuine and who keeps changing to suit their audience.

[PVnRT]

81. I just don't think it will find much traction

Frankly, it's easily spinnable as well.

[chitty]

75. Separated At Birth...........

Hill & Klem Kadiddlehopper

[CatsDogsBabies]

77. At one point in the video, she has a shot in one hand

and a beer in another. I think she should have just gone for the beer. That image would have been okay. No need to have a shot in one hand and a beer in the other. It looks extreme. Even if it were something else, like sandwiches or a sandwich and a donut. If you saw someone doing two-fisted eating, a bite of sandwich followed by a bite of donut, followed by a bite of sandwich, it would look like they don't know how to moderate themselves.

[Florida22ndDistrict]

85. re: At one point in the video, she has a shot in one hand

“Shot and a beer” is a normal occurrence in bars. Some people hit the shot first and then drink the beer after, as she did. Others drop the shot glass in the beer and then slam the who thing (a depth charge). Its not out of place at all.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

80. Yes this is Hillary's dukakis photo!

[Buzz Clik]

83. I like one scene from that bar even better -- that's where she grabs her beer while holding the shot

"Nobody better have ... better have... better have drinked ... drinked?... drunk ... that's not it. Nobody better had touched my beer or there will be pay to hell!"

[Mooney]

84. Is there a 12-step group in the house?

[ORDem]

87. K

:kick:

[JuniperLea]

88. This looks like flame bait to me... who is with me?

Seriously! Unless we can ALL be civil, we cannot expect it from others.