Obama, the single parent raised, earned an academic scholarship to college,

[youknowmenotdlc]

hoops playing elitist.

[GarbagemanLB]

1. Hillary, growing up in the rough world of PARK RIDGE, Illinois.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[mac2]

2. Her father was a working man and not rich at that.

Park Ridge is not exclusive.

[youknowmenotdlc]

3. I agree, it's as silly to call Hillary an elitist as it is

for her to call Obama an elitist.

[GarbagemanLB]

4. bingo. She started a stupid, stupid game with this 'elitist' bullshit. The polls show people

aren't buying Hillary Oakley's fauxtrage.

[DesertFlower]

5. and inferred that kerry and gore

were elitists. Jesus H. Christ.

[mac2]

18. Well they do belong to those "elitist" groups.

But what are they talking about but themselves?

[mac2]

12. They both belong to the secret "elitist" government organizations.

Trilateral Commission and Bilderburg Group. When Hillary calls Obama elitist is she saying he was rich or that he belongs to the elite few who are determined to rule us. He was "chosen by corporate media and those organizations" to run for President as was Hillary.

[mac2]

6. Here's what bloggers had to say about Obama's "struggle"

"+4 diggs by MercyProf on 04/12/2008

"I'm just wondering...I hear a lot about Obama's "single parent upbringing" so how does a poor boy from a single parent family travel to another country and then return and attend school at Harvard? I know hundreds of people who were raised in a single parent household. Not one of them has traveled to another country-except as a soldier. And very few of them have attended college. Maybe sulternao can't answer but someone else may have the answer.+4 diggs"

by bamapachyderm on 04/12/2008

"Not to mention going to an elite private school in Hawaii. "Poverty," my ass."

There are rich single parents with money. Obama's maybe elite. Just because he is Afro-American mix does not mean he was poor and had to struggle. Where did he get the money for drugs anyway? I couldn't afford to smoke cigarettes (good thing in the end).

[Levgreee]

20. Obama didn't go to Harvard until he was 26, after being in the working world for awhile

so it's not like he went straight there, paid by his relatives

[BlooInBloo]

7. The $100 million couple painting the single-mom food stamps kid as elitist. GENIUS!

[mac2]

9. It's the image not the truth

The minority community would not be so pleased to support a rich man and his wife. They receive money from corporations...even help from the Chicago Tribune on how to spin the Rev. Wright story.

[cliffordu]

28. Of course you have some actual concrete proof of this and not a

junior high schoolers Google - researched paper, right???

[juajen]

11. Hey, buddy, we all met Bill's mother when he was President.

Remember, she was a nurse, who raised him with a lot of difficulty after she divorced his alcoholic father.

We have a story about Obama and a few photos of his mother, but that's about it. I have a feeling his story is quite manipulated, and it would be easy to do since he lived either out of the country or off the mainland for most of his young life.

There are a lot of questions I would like answered about this man, and his growing up years are certainly shrouded in mystery.

[BlooInBloo]

14. Go peddle your FUD tactics somewhere else.

[ORDem]

25. What does Bill's upbringing have to do with the comparison to Hillary's?

:shrug:

[JoFerret]

26. Of all of them

Bill probably had the hardest struggle.
But you know - it's what you DO with hardship (or privilege) that counts.
Now check out W for a comparison. We should stop picking on good people.

[Adelante]

27. Surrounded in mystery?

Do you read?

[juajen]

8. Okay, I've heard this single-mother-raising issue a lot, so perhaps you are

an expert from whom I might inquire. I have read online bios about him, but do not get the single mother reference. As I understand it, after his father deserted him and his mother, she did spend some time in Hawaii before meeting her next husband and moving to Jacarta.

I thought I read that her mother and father helped her until that marriage and he was whisked off to Indonesia where he was raised as a Muslim, his stepfather's religion as well as his father's. Then, as I understand it, she divorced Maya's father, and sent Obama back to live with her mother and father. So, exactly how much time did she spend raising Obama by herself.

Since my daughter was a single mother with two children when she came to live with me and her father, I would resent her saying that she singlehandedly raised her children, since I was bathing, dressing, feeding and transporting her children for years. Not to say that she didn't work and pay for all of her's and their expenses.

Anyway, I would appreciate it if you could tell me more about the years that she did not raise him.

[mac2]

10. Grandparents help children more than society wants to admit

even when the parents aren't poor.

[juajen]

13. Well, even if that didn't answer my question, I appreciate the reply,

Thanks very much for acknowledging the help that grandparents give their children and grandchildren. It appears that most times, it's a thankless task; but, done out of love, so I think we are the ones who are blessed.

[K Gardner]

16. You don't deserve the dignity of a response after that idiotic crap, most of which you

either know better or are deliberately trying to piss off people who DO know Obama's history.

I'd advise anyone not to answer this "concerned" questioner.. because down this road there is nothing but tripe. I'll just quit typing now, rather than risk a TS for you.. you're not worth it.

[Yupster]

19. I read an interesting story about Obama's mother recently

Here's what I remember. Hope it's mostly right.

She was named Stanley because her dad wanted a son.

By the time she was in high school on Mercer Island (Oregon or Washington?) she was rebellious against her family, especially her overbearing salesman father. Her friends said she was an outspoken atheist and progressive. Must have driven her parents crazy.

She was against moving to Hawaii where her dad was taking a job in another staore (selling furniture?). She soon met a brilliant Kenyan student Barack Obama and was soon pregnant. A marriage followed against the wishes of both families.

Obama was accepted into Harvard and he left the young family when young Barack was three. Obama was also involved in a family arranged marriage in Kenya, but the story said it was unknown whether he was officially married at the time of his marriage to Stanley, or if he was married in Kenya later.

Stanley fought to get herself a college education as a single mom, but remarried when young Barack was fifve, this time to an Indonesian man. While both her husbands were Muslims, Stanley was by the paper's account not religious. Young Barack's dad brought the family to Indonesia where they lived without electricity for a few years.

Stanley fell in love with Indonesian anthropology and was given quite a bit of credit for helping come up with the idea of using micro-loans to fund very small businesses in third world countries, especially to women.

In Indonesia, Stanley had a daughter, young Barack's step-sister.

With the second marriage also failing and young Barack showing brilliance that needed a good education, Stanley sent him to live with her parents at age 10. She stayed in Indonesia and for the rest of Barack's young life, he lived with his grandparents who sent him to exclusive private schools which ended in him getting a tremendous education all the way through law school.

Stanley died very young (age 51 or 41?) of (ovarian?) cancer. Congressman Neil Abercrombie was a college frined with the older Barack Obama in Hawaii and said he found him again on a trip to Africa years later. He found him unhappy and drinking heavily. I think he's still alive.

I hope I'm remembering this mostly right. It was certainly a fascinating story.

[cali]

22. Wrong. She moved back to Hawaii with Barack when he was

10. She lived there in an apt with her kids until she left a few years later and returned to Indonesia. Barack stayed in Hawaii so he could continue attending Punahao. And his father died 26 years ago in a car accident, when Barack was just out of his teens.

[cali]

21. you clearly have read right wing "bios" about him.

Ann raised Barack from the time he was born until he was in his early teens. At that point he moved into his grandparent's apt. And no, she did NOT send him to live with them. And separated from his step-father and moved to Hawaii. She left Hawaii after living there for several years. That's when Obama moved in with the Dunhams. He was not ever raised as a Muslim. Take your freeper right wing crap and shove it.

[splat]

15. Plenty of rich people start poor and then look down on where they came from

[mac2]

17. Especially those Americans who are members of those secret

World Order groups (Trilateral Commission, Bilderburg Group, FRC, etc.). They did well in our democratic society with our social contract yet they betray us time and again. The Americans who do are in violation of the Logan Act. They should go to jail and be fined. That's what I think of politicans who become arrogant and won't protect us.

[ORDem]

23. kick-n-rec

:kick:

[JoFerret]

24. went to elite private school

picks his nose and eats it.
(who cares).