He started off roundly dissing Democrats

[Tactical Progressive]

as being too confrontational with Publicans.

Later went on and on revereing Reagan.

Then he snidely dissed the entire baby-boom generation of the left.

And now the working class see him as dissing them.


To be honest, I don't think he meant this as badly as it came off,
but he got off virtually scott-free on all the other stuff,
which I really do think was horrendous in every respect,
thanks to the Obama-adoring, -protecting and -promoting media.

So for however much there really is inherent in this gaffe,
but mostly for all the other disdainful stuff that he's said,
he deserves however much resentment this eventually gets him
many times over.

And maybe that's what this is, the culmination of his and his wife's
repeatedly less than flattering references to the people who've been
under the Publican heel, and who've been trying to fight back
if not just survive the experience.

[SoonerPride]

1. plonk

I have no time for someone who disses our nominee.

[OzarkDem]

2. He's written off FL, MI, OH and PA for the GE

and thinks he can win enough electoral votes by relying on Montana and Wyoming. Oy. What a fool.

[bunnies]

5. Did you see the MI poll that was floating around here yesterday?

He beats McCain. She loses.

[Mooney]

11. When did he write off PA?

He's outspending Her Highness 3:1 as Ed Rendell is so fond of pointing out. Should he be outspending her 6:1?

[BlooInBloo]

35. He didn't. There's just some idiots who think that if you don't win the state in the primary...

... then you won't win it in the GE. It's complete idiocy, of course, but that's how idiots think (naturally).

[Mooney]

48. Oh, I know.

I was just hoping that the person I was responding to might answer. But I shouldn't really be expecting that.

[smiley_glad_hands]

3. You guys are pathological. eom

[Bigleaf]

6. Yeah. Shouldn't these guys be watching their candidate on Tweety right now?

[rodeodance]

7. says the cult.

[smiley_glad_hands]

14. I haven't always been an Obama supporter so that meme doesn't fly with me. eom

[bunnies]

15. smiley_glad_hands is a cult?

picture that! :rofl:

[smiley_glad_hands]

17. Yes, one must bow before Maynard. eom

[bunnies]

24. This Maynard?

[smiley_glad_hands]

26. Yes, that Maynard.

No one is allowed to look him in the eyes.

[bunnies]

27. In that case....

Count me the fuck IN!!!!! :bounce:

[smiley_glad_hands]

29. Maynard is a musical God. We must chant now. eom

[bunnies]

34. And light the candles on the shrine.

After that its listen to live shows or bootlegs time. If you dont have either of those it means that I love Maynard more than you do.

This cult RULES! :rofl:

[smiley_glad_hands]

36. Damn you I say. I want Salival.

I have some cheesy documentary not associated with the band with some live music, thats it.

I've seen em 3 times live. APC once. Listen to his latest project at puscifer.com btw. Worship on.

[redqueen]

37. Bleah!

Puscifer = yuck.

Love their stuff... have been a fan since they were playing barrooms... but lately he just pisses me off with his wankery.

I know someone who might be selling his copy of the platinum record for Undertow, though, if you know any superfans with too much money. ;)

[JVS]

39. You know, I bet there was some cult that the Branch Davidians always bumped into at the Costco...

that were so weird that the Davidians looked at each other and said "Those people are fucked up whackos!"

[Mooney]

21. How are Obama supporters a cult?

The dictionary defines a cult as "a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies." How are Obama supporters a cult? I certainly read this contention around here a lot, so I'm sure you'll have a comprehensive answer at the ready.

[QC]

23. I believe people are using the term in the sense of "cult of personality." n/t

[Mooney]

47. Not with all the Kool Aid references.

The implication there is Jonestown, Hale-Bopp comet, Branch Davidian, lunatic religious sect. If it were about a cult of personality there would be references to Stalin or Hitler --- it would be about the leader. The "cult" term, in this case, is meant to imply something about the supporters.

[redqueen]

4. Pardon?

How did he "roundly diss democrats"?

I was pissed about his Reagan comments... but I didn't see his comments as "revering" the man... is a little honesty too much to ask? Also he took plenty of heat for that...

I remember people being pissed about the 'baby boom' thing... so... how did he get a pass?

As for your analysis of what the working class thinks... I only have one thing to say:

[oasis]

8. Obama has transcended all those little hang ups that the average Joe clings to.

Just drink the Kool-Aid and you too will be magically transported into a B.O. state of mind.

[thereismore]

9. Let's see if I get this right: First I send you a response, THEN and only then, I Igg you.

:puke:

[DerekJ]

10. "Then he snidely dissed the entire baby-boom generation of the left"

When did he do that?!!

[Mags]

12. yeah, he also started out with yes we can, hope, then change and now he is into bitterness.

[damonm]

31. As always, mags, you are the undisputed World Champion of

[Mags]

41. you Obama folk are sooooooo scared and are falling apart because of Obama's showing his true colors

I love it.

[redqueen]

43. "I reject your reality, and substitute my own."

Is that your motto?

[Mags]

44. don't think alot of Obama folk have been in reality for a while.

[redqueen]

46. You are living in your own private Idaho, Mags.

:hi:

[Mags]

50. I , my dear , am not in Idaho. Thanks anyway.

[redqueen]

Hahaha... sorry... just a reference to an old song...

Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo
You're living in your own Private Idaho
Living in your own Private Idaho
Underground like a wild potato.
Don't go on the patio.
Beware of the pool,
blue bottomless pool.
It leads you straight
right throught the gate
that opens on the pool.
You're living in your own Private Idaho.
You're living in your own Private Idaho.

Keep off the path, beware the gate,
watch out for signs that say "hidden driveways".
Don't let the chlorine in your eyes
blind you to the awful surprise
that's waitin' for you at
the bottom of the bottomless blue blue blue pool.

You're livin in your own Private Idaho. Idaho.
You're out of control, the rivers that roll,
you fell into the water and down to Idaho.
Get out of that state,
get out of that state you're in.
You better beware.

You're living in your own Private Idaho.
You're living in your own Private Idaho.

Keep off the patio,
keep off the path.
The lawn may be green
but you better not be seen
walkin' through the gate that leads you down,
down to a pool fraught with danger
is a pool full of strangers.

You're living in your own Private Idaho,
where do I go from here to a better state than this.
Well, don't be blind to the big surprise
swimming round and round like the deadly hand
of a radium clock, at the bottom, of the pool.

I-I-I-daho
I-I-I-daho
Woah oh oh woah oh oh woah oh oh
Ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
Get out of that state
Get out of that state
You're living in your own Private Idaho,
livin in your own Private.... Idaho

[Lerkfish]

13. plonk

[JoFerret]

28. Ah yes. What we all need

A nice glass of chilled plonk all round

[Adelante]

16. Oh, Christ, this is getting plain loony

Give it up.

[Hepburn]

18. ...yawn....

...

Splat....

[Mags]

45. is that you Hepburn?

[Arrowhead2k1]

19. Oh gawd, back to blaming the media when things don't go your way.

Why don't you go stage another little pots and pans protest, maybe this time remember to bring the pots and pans and a few more people to boot.

[Tactical Progressive]

58. Coming from the partisan cultists that shriek

every time a media head doesn't sing the praises of Obama,
that's actually quite funny.

[PoliticalAmazon]

20. Nice Rove tactic there....

...Attempting to spin Obama's actions and words to demonstrate what Hillary Clinton is actually guilty of.

The Democratic Party voters are learning what Hillary, her campaign, and *SOME* of her supporters are all about, and you know what?

Just like Hillary Clinton, the more the voters see, the more they recoil in horror.

[Symarip]

22. The LoL'lercoaster continues...

[Jed Dilligan]

25. .

[Catherina]

30. He pissed in your wheaties. Got it. n/t

[muryan]

32. And obviously Hillary has came through this process sparkling

considering today she compared to Obama to Bush, and thats just about the craziest thing I've heard yet.

[JVS]

33. And yet he beat the tar out of her in so many states

What does this tell us about Hillary's likability and electability?




It sucks. That's what it tells us.

[Zhade]

38. clinton's a proven compulsive liar.

Yawn.

[redqueen]

42. My dad invented corn flakes.

And magnets, he invented them straight up.

:rofl:

[Vinca]

40. Guess he should have started out trying to avoid invisible sniper fire,

then lying his way through Ohio about NAFTA, then praising the Republican candidate at every opportunity, then throwing back a few shots with the boys before winding up taking down a trophy duck. Damned over-educated elitist.:rofl:

[guyanakoolaid]

49. Isn't it time for you night-is-day'ers to form your own little party?

Hillary will bring the booze

[anonymous171]

51. At least he didn't use repug talking points against his own party.

[Symarip]

52. Ouch. That's gotta hurt.

[redqueen]

53. You would think, but you'd be wrong.

Apparently her supporters are OK with that sort of thing...

:shrug:

[Symarip]

54. All you have to do is this:

Think about all the things in life that invoke anger and frustration.

Now feel the opposite when Hillary Clinton does them.

Fin.

[Tactical Progressive]

55. Pub talking points is what Obama has been doing from the start

[anonymous171]

56. Nope. Unless you have links.

Or unless you, like many Hillary supporters, think that it's still 1994 and attacking the Clinton's constitutes using GOP talking points.

[donkeyotay]

57. He sure is a uniter.

After he's through with the dems, :sarcasm: he's going to unite us with the republicans because he has some magic power over them.

I admire the Hillary supporters here who haven't given up. It's so much easier to run with a pack.

:thumbsup:

[WA98070]

59. I am a working class, gun-owning Christian who grew up in a small town...

but I must be missing something because I have never felt dissed by him. I am not bitter but I've not yet been outsourced.

I listened to what his words were and not what the talking heads told me to hear.

Although I didn't support him until he was the last candidate standing I have always respected the respect he shows others.

[Tactical Progressive]

60. Obama doesn't respect anyone but Obama

He's smeared Democrats as a whole more than once, also baby-boomers, Hillary obviously, Joe Biden, Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, and now to many blue-collar workers in the middle-class, them too.

He's been doing it since the start of his campaign.

Ronald Reagan is the only one I've heard Obama give anything more than perfunctory respect to.

My god, his very campaign slogan is a deliberate character smear.


Always shows respect to others? Yes, you've been missing quite a bit, probably because you want to.

[AX10]

61. He deserved to be bitten in the ass.

[SoxFan]

62. Sorry

[cliffordu]

63. FAIL

[nemo137]

64. As a young, voting Midwesterner,

I think he's doing ok. My generation saw the babyboomers fight like hell for Civil Rights, getting the voting age lowered, women's rights, and a whole host of other things (well, not saw, but are aware of), and then sell out in the 80's and put us in the mess we're in today. If you're still fighting the good fight, as many here are, good on you, but your compatriots sold us out long and hard. As a Midwesterner, from just up the river from Dixon, Illinois (a town that reveres Reagan more than even Tampico, if you can believe that) I understand the appeal of Reagan - charming, either very calculating himself or led by great calculators - a consummate politician. Being from a working class background, I see the bitterness he talked about a lot.

I don't think the resentment against him is going to be as strong or clear cut as you think.