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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:46 PM
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Why Obama? Because the Man has Integrity...
Obama: 'It's politics' not race

From NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan
WASHINGTON, Pa. -- Don’t read Clinton’s “elitist” attacks as racist Obama cautioned a voter at a town hall meeting with veterans and military families.

An older man, taking the mic for the first question, claimed Clinton’s attacks were trying to cast Obama as an “uppity” Black man.

“This isn’t political whatsoever, myself being obviously a white person, this term is the way it’s being used against you isn’t far from ‘uppity,’” the man began. “Okay. And I think the Clintons are getting away with something that they must be called on. They will continue to do this until somebody states, ‘Mrs. Clinton you’re really close to prejudice here. This is wrong. This man does not have anything elitist about his upbringing. He never will, and I desire a well-educated person as president of the United States. I am sorry. It’s got to stop.”

Obama disagreed and said it was not about race, but chalked it up to politics. “I don’t think there are racial overtones going on to the attacks right now. I think it’s politics. This is what we do politically, when we start getting behind in races, then we start going on the attack.”

He went on to say he found it amusing to be called an elitist, since he was raised by a single mother and had been on food stamps as a child.
...
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/15/893729.aspx


He could have jumped all over this like a Clinton.

He could have attacked her relentlessly on Snipergate.

He could have been battering her with Impeachment and Lewinsky for the past 4 months.

But Barack Obama did not do any of this.

He wants to lead the American People by example. No more of the old politics of "do as I say, not as I do".

We finally have a Candidate who can inspire and organize the People.
This is the true purpose of the Office of the Presidency. It takes a Real Leader to galvanize the Will of the People into an Unstoppable Force of Change.
No Congress can serve as a stumbling block to a Strong President with the People at his back.

Not an Elitist, but the very Cream of the Middle Class Crop.
He is a living example of what is possible in this Country like nowhere else on Earth.

Once upon a Time, Obama's Mother told him he could be whatever he wanted to be when he grew up, even President of the United States.
And she did not lie.





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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:49 PM
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1. Integrity? I don't think so
But we don't mind if yo O supporters believe it.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:53 PM
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3. Troll much?
Shame you Clinton supporters cant understand what integrity is.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:54 PM
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7. well, they think its ok to lie about sniper fire
so I would think they're a bit integrity-challenged.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:58 PM
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12. lol
:rofl:

:thumbsup:
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:58 PM
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14. And your candidate isn't?
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:44 PM
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27. And you're citing a freeper blog why...?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:53 PM
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5. can you explain why or how Barack does NOT have integrity?
cite examples.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:57 PM
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11. You mean these little "things"?
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:08 PM
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18. You might enjoy these 'little things' about Hillary too....
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:09 PM
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19. plonk! your link is racist garbage
plonk
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:10 PM
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22. Wow. That's some list of bullshit ya got there
If there is a kernel of truth there, it's buried inside all the crap that is patently untrue.

You know, there's a site called snopes you can check some of that out at. :eyes:
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:57 PM
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9. So is Integrity....
... remembering ducking and running from sniper fire? The HC campaign is now saying she miss-remembered. How the HELL do you misremember something like that???? For Pity Fuckin Sake!!! Not once or twice but many times she stated this. These are out and out lies, plain and simple!!! But does Obama nail her on it? Nope!!! Wake up people!
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:58 PM
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13. try this
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:07 PM
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17. wow, what a neutral, unbiased BLOG
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.


kinda ironic, since you're arguing "integrity".
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:09 PM
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20. Have you read that? Who's site is it?
I only got a few in, but it as malicious and obvious as any pack of lies any RW smear site on a Democrat could possibly be. Probably anybody here should be able to recognize the style and lack of substance in a minute. Pathetic to post it here.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:13 PM
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24. Just in case you missed this the first time I posted it for you:
http://prorev.com/hillary.htm

Here are a few items:
SUMMARY

FIRST FIRST LADY to come under criminal investigation

FIRST FIRST LADY to almost be indicted acccording to one of the special prosecutors

NUMBER of Hillary Clinton fundraisers convicted of, or pleading no contest to, crime: 5

NUMBER OF TIMES that Hillary Clinton, providing testimony to Congress, said that she didn't remember, didn't know, or something similar: 250

NUMBER OF CLOSE BUSINESS partners of Hillary Clinton who ended up in prison: 3. The Clintons' two partners in Whitewater wereconvicted of 24 counts of fraud and conspiracy. Hillary Clinton's partner and mentor at the Rose law firm, Webster Hubbell, pleaded guilty to federal mail fraud and tax evasion charges, including defrauding former clients and former partners out of more than $480,000. Hillary Clinton was mentioned 35 times in the indictment.

IN THE 1980s, Hillary Clinton made a $44,000 profit on a $2,000 investment in a cellular phone franchise deal took advantage of the FCC's preference for locals, minorities and women. The franchise was almost immediately flipped to the cellular giant, McCaw.

HILLARY CLINTON AND HER HUSBAND set up a resort land scam known as Whitewater in which the unwitting bought third rate property 50 miles from the nearest grocery store and, thanks to the sleazy financing, about half the purchasers, many of them seniors, lost their property.

IN 1993 HILLARY CLINTON and David Watkins moved to oust the White House travel office in favor of World Wide Travel, Clinton's source of $1 million in fly-now-pay-later campaign trips that essentially financed the last stages of the campaign without the bother of reporting a de facto contribution. The White House fired seven long-term employees for alleged mismanagement and kickbacks. The director, Billy Dale, charged with embezzlement, was acquitted in less than two hours by the jury.

HRC'S 1994 HEALTH CARE PLAN, according to one account, included fines of up to $5,000 for refusing to join the government-mandated health plan, $5,000 for failing to pay premiums on time, 15 years to doctors who received "anything of value" in exchange for helping patients short-circuit the bureaucracy, $10,000 a day for faulty physician paperwork, $50,000 for unauthorized patient treatment, and $100,000 a day for drug companies that messed up federal filings.

TWO MONTHS after commencing the Whitewater scheme, Hillary Clinton invested $1,000 in cattle futures. Within a few days she had a $5,000 profit. Before bailing out she earns nearly $100,000 on her investment. Many years later, several economists will calculate that the chances of earning such returns legally were one in 250 million.

IN 1996, Hillary Clinton's Rose law firm billing records, sought for two years by congressional investigators and the special prosecutor were found in the back room of the personal residence at the White House. Clinton said she had no idea how they got there.


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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:00 PM
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16. Nobody cares whether you mind
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:52 PM
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2. Obama's mom also taught him that 'learning morals' was part of his education. Something HRC didn't
learn and he did, very well.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:53 PM
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4. I saw that, and the guy was a bit pissed off.
Obama down played any race issues and said it was politics.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:54 PM
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6. Yup... he could have joined in with Hillary & McCain in engaging in the politics of division.
He hasn't.

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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:56 PM
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8. Barack is outlasting all the 'politics of old' attacks....
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 03:57 PM by islandmkl
everyone, the MSM especially, keep waiting for him to wilt after a 'mistake'....

and go on the frontal assault to counter bitterhillary, but he just keeps pushing his message...

he is being 'hated' by some for not getting dirty to push back at the clintons...and many of these 'some' are here in our own party, and many are not BO supporters....

they want him to show that he is NOT DIFFERENT....that he is the same as the other candidates (both of whom are too similar to offer any real choice for change)...that he has all the lack of scruples and blind ambition that we have come to expect from our leaders...

they want him to be another bad politician...as if it makes the truly bad politicians he opposes somehow 'better'....

i am sure Barack is sorry to disappoint those who do not support him...

BUT HE SURE MAKES HIS SUPPORTERS PROUD OF HIM!!
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:57 PM
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10. Damn. SO level-headed, so focused.
He is quickly becoming the Harlem Globetrotters as Hillary becomes the Washington Generals.

Nothing. But. Net.

- as
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:00 PM
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15. Excellent article.
I am more inclined to agree with the questioner on the character of the attack, but agree with Obama that the origin is political necessity. That is, if Hillary's supporters engage in racism it is more a matter of political expediency rather than any actually held belief or true prejudice.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:10 PM
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21. "If one is raised in poverty he will never become an elitist" So it is written
in the "Book of Barack". :eyes:
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:11 PM
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23. I went duck hunting with Obama
just last weekend, we had a blast too. He's just like a "normal" everyday guy except for the fact he's never picked up a gun much less fired one. He probably never went to a college football game or even been camping. Other than that, he's just like me.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:23 PM
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25. Since when do Guns make the Man?
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 04:23 PM by JackORoses
Obama was and is a Basketballer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RflO9XKALU

But thank God, Obama is not just like you. What progress would that be?

Were you a Goldwater Boy, President of the Young Republicans, Yale Grad, Corporate Lawyer, Governor's Wife, Wal-Mart Board Member, First Lady, or a US Senator? No?
Then what is it you have in common with Lil' Hilly?
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:37 PM
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26. Excellent response on his part.
I would hope that Obama supporters on this site would follow his lead. There was a thread earlier today which stated that elitist was a RW code word for uppity. It was a strongly supported sentiment, despite it being pretty patently ridiculous on it's face and now being disavowed by the person it was used against. Obama is right on this one.
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