I don't understand Hillary's motivations. She has ran on lies, a false 35 years of experience

[Levgreee]

(now, she MAY HAVE 35 years of experience, but she didn't tell the voters about those 35 years in this campaign, for whatever reason).


most of her positions and talking points are constructed to get maximum voter leverage. Her whole campaign has seemed calculated and shallow.

I still don't understand why she, herself, is running, and why. Why is Obama as president such a fearful prospect, while she is the one who will do the best? She hasn't said. The 35 years mantra was what she repeated non-stop before, but now she has given that up, even. She doesn't say at all why she is the better candidate.

She has ran the most malicious primary campaign in history, to try to drag Obama down(and Edwards, remember her robo-calls in South Carolina) so she could win.

Because of her through and through duplicity in this campaign, and her extreme aggressiveness and desperation, the conclusion that comes to mind most easily is she has deep political ties that she is serving, first and foremost.

She is not running "campaign Hillary". She is running "campaign political insiders", and considering how she bowed down to Bush over Iraq, is rather friendly to lobbyists(they represent real Americans http://youtube.com/watch?v=FaAkcXynqLA) I don't trust "her", or "them", rather, one bit.

I am being perfectly honest here... I have a strong aversion to conspiracy theories. But I have deep distrust of "them", and "they" actually scare me a little bit. I think they are desperate, and power/money hungry.

[DJ13]

1. Hillary is running to maintain the iron grip for corporate america on our politics

Since Reagan the prerequisite for becoming President has been an allegiance to big business, and after Bush/Cheney the only national candidate that the big business types trust is her.

Thats also why she refuses to quit, her "employers" (read: big moneyed PACs that paid for her campaigns in both NY and now) are desperate to keep hold of the WH.

[Political Heretic]

2. It's not even that. Hillary is running because hillary thinks the presidency is her birthright

Hillary is running out of ego and lust for power and position. Nothing more. Why do I say something so mean?

Because I feel I've compiled a wealth of supporting examples sufficient to substantiate my own conclusion, that at the heart of the Clinton campaign is pure, unadulterated politics without a value base. It is a campaign of say anything, do anything, be anything to win. The ultimate value goal of the campaign is winning. Everything else is subordinated to that goal.

Of course every candidate for president has the goal of winning, but not every candidate subordinates all values, all integrity, all decency to that goal. I have lost all trust that Clinton means anything that she ever says. What she says either about herself or her opponent is totally relative to whatever happens to be politically expedient at that time.

Fundamentally, there is nothing I can stand less than that. I am not an ideological purist, and I understand that all candidates have to engage in a certain degree of "politiking" when they run. They all think about what people want to hear and how to win. But not all totally subordinate everything else to that one element. Hillary Clinton and her campaign does.

[DJ13]

4. Oh I agree she (and Bill) have huge ego's

But they didnt make $109 million in 7 years just with Bill's speeches.

Theres a quid pro quo going on there, and she was expected to win to pay those debts back.

[bigtree]

3. Only Obama could possibly be sincere

no way that his supporters could accept that someone other than their own candidate (and their supporters) could be sincere.

BY the way, there's no evidence at all from this post that you have any clue what Clinton has actually been doing on the campaign trail. Sad.

[Political Heretic]

5. That's a logical fallacy.

One <> Only.

I believe most of our other democratic candidates were sincere. I even believe John Edwards was sincere, and he's "flip-flopped" over the years from some pretty terrible Senate votes.

Hillary Clinton proves her insincerity throughout every inch of her terrible campaign.

[Levgreee]

7. I have listened to her complete stump speech several times

have heard her victory speeches... and have heard a lot about her secondhand in the news and on DU.

And yes, the other candidates all came off as more sincere than Hillary. They gave actual reasons why they were running, over the other candidates. Not primarily doublespeak and tailored political positions.

For about 4 weeks the big thing that Hillary was pushing was that she was the health care candidate. Yet the only difference between her and Obama, really, is the mandate. It was a faux difference... why can't, why hasn't she, been running on real differences?

[poplockndropit]

6. her motivation is the same as yours.