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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:51 PM
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A Pathological, Compulsive, Chronic, or Habitual Liar?
Just an FYI, from http://www.truthaboutdeception.com/confront_a_liar/publ...

Pathological Liar

A pathological liar is usually defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. Pathological lying is often viewed as coping mechanism developed in early childhood and it is often associated with some other type of mental health disorder. A pathological liar is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused - it is done to get one's way). Pathological liars have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. A pathological liar often comes across as being manipulative, cunning and self-centered.

Compulsive Liar

A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (see, Pathological Liar), rather they simply lie out of habit - an automatic response which is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship (see, how to cope with a compulsive liar).

The terms Habitual Liar and Chronic Liar are often used to refer to a Compulsive Liar.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:55 PM
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1. also, a compulsive liar will lie about things that don't really matter, that
don't benefit them in any way, and which are easily disproven.


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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:04 PM
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5. A member of my step-family is one.
It is extremely difficult to endure.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:56 PM
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2. she's pathological
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:57 PM
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3. The Clintons: Both are Both...
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:57 PM
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4. ...
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 03:57 PM by NDambi
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:10 PM
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6. These questions should be on a poll here.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:22 PM
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13. Feel Free To Do A Poll
I need to save some posts for later.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:13 PM
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7. Pathological, IMO
Lots of embellishments from Hilly ~~ and that is a clue to me as to the etiology of her constant lying. They tend to construct a reality around themselves which does not exist ~~ witness such things as the Bosnia sniper story.



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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:17 PM
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8. She's definitely pathological.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:18 PM
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9. Another vote for Hillary being pathological.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:19 PM
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10. vote for pathological
:crazy:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:20 PM
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11. I'm going with pathological. nt
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:33 PM
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12. I've known women who were from one or both groups and Hillary is neither
...now Dubya and most ReTHUGlicons can fit one or both of those
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:24 PM
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14. Pathological. nt
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:32 PM
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15. who, Obama supporters?
I go with compulsive.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:35 PM
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16. I don't know about pathology -- but I know BIll just lied again to keep Bittergate alive
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/bill-cl...

President Clinton, Hillary's number one surrogate, then used O'Bannon's remarks as a springboard to share his own experiences of reactions to Obama's comments at a recent San Francisco fundraiser where he said small town voters were "bitter" and "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Over seven stops in North Carolina, Clinton said "Everywhere I go there are all these people with signs, saying I'm not bitter - I'm not bitter."

Clinton said during a stop in Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania "this fellow said to me... "President Clinton, we are not bitter, we just want to turn the country around." Clinton said another supporter in North Carolina said "I hunt 'cause I like to and I go church 'cause I need to. And if I were a millionaire, I would still hunt and go to church.' He said what we need is to get this country together, get it on the road and go forward. So that is what this election is about. And we all gotta go forward together. We all have to go forward together."

The strong sentiments were appreciated by the crowd, but were not entirely accurate. During Clinton's seven stops in North Carolina on Saturday there were no "I'm not bitter" signs. There was a small assortment of people at his later events wearing stickers with the slogan, but many of those sporting the stickers weren't even sure what they meant. Clinton also was a bit confused about his encounter in Pennsylvania. The conversation actually took place at an earlier event in Bloomsburg, PA - or so Clinton told the crowd in Bloomsburg.

Despite the evolving anecdotes, the fact that the Clinton campaign needs this story to stay alive in Indiana and other rural states was crystal clear.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:37 PM
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17. I say she is a Pathological Liar with a Compulsive flair..
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:40 PM
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18. I'd vote for sociopathic.
http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=...
"A pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others and inability or unwillingness to conform to what are considered to be the norms of society.....Symptoms may include dysphoria, an inability to tolerate boredom, feeling victimized, and a diminished capacity for intimacy."
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:44 PM
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19. Same ole Lying Politicians.
Just the same old lying politician. Same old politics same old road map. I guess its too difficult for people to turn the page.
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