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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:10 AM
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Monday PA Polls: Hillary still trouncing Obama
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/pa/pennsylvania_democratic_primary-240.html

RCP Average 03/27 - 04/10 - 48.7 41.4 Clinton +7.3
Zogby 04/09 - 04/10 1,002 LV 47 43 Clinton +4.0
Temple Univ. 03/27 - 04/09 583 LV 47 41 Clinton +6.0
InsiderAdvantage 04/08 - 04/08 681 LV 48 38 Clinton +10.0
PPP (D) 04/07 - 04/08 1124 LV 46 43 Clinton +3.0
Rasmussen 04/07 - 04/07 695 LV 48 43 Clinton +5.0
SurveyUSA 04/05 - 04/07 597 LV 56 38 Clinton +18.0

Obama worshippers, your candidate is DOOMED. The people who have already voted for Obama have a severe case of buyer's remorse. Hillary is on the upswing and will overtake Obama in the popular vote in the next few contests. Superdelegates will then see the light that Obama has NO CHANCE of winning the GE election and they will vote for Hillary at the convention (yes, the race IS going that far) and give her the NOMINATION.

Good day.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:12 AM
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1. OH please. Get you head out of your ass. n/t
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:47 AM
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34. IMO, at this point with this poster....
...that would require major surgery.
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kmsarvis Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:36 PM
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62. I know a proctologist !!!
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:27 PM
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57. at least DemVet
won't have to pay for a colonoscopy.....
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:13 AM
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2. ...
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:11 AM
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42. haha lol lol funniest damn thing I have ever seen.
How true... how true.. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:13 AM
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3. Trouncing? Compare Obama's margins of victory to Clinton's.....
.... and stay away from the drugs! :scared:


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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:14 AM
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4. Hardly a trouncing......
she was up thirty points a month or so ago. Besides , a win in PA isn't going to change anything. Hillary is finished.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:57 AM
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18. where's a tornado and a house when you need them
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:15 AM
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5. That won't be a big enough win!
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:16 AM
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6. The newest poll on your list is 5 days old
And the more recent the poll, the lower Clinton's lead.

I believe that this list of polls only proves that Obama is gaining momentum.

You should do a better job cherry-picking if you want to support the thesis you lay out in the title.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:10 AM
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21. i pointed that out and the OP said..
Weekend polls are taken.....the Thusday and Friday BEFORE the weekend, Einstein.


lol
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:32 AM
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29. Well at least he called you "Einstein"
Last I heard, Einstein was quite intelligent....at least intelligent enough to know that Thursday and Friday are not weekend days.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:37 AM
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31. Well then he said the monday data was released last friday so...
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 08:38 AM by datopbanana
so my einsteinian brain is still trying to wrap itself around that one. currently im exploring a hypothesis involving zogby exploiting the time distortions inherent to wormholes.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:44 AM
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32. oh GOOD. I just found out that they're gunna explain it on the season finale of lost.
phew..
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:17 AM
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7. bwahaahaha, hill sycophant
Doomed? Hill's overwhelming average lead is less than 8 pts in PA. And how's the Hillster doing in NC? Oops, he's stomping on her "momentum".

Git yer fork ready. Hill is cooked.

Have a fine day, you pathetic hillbooster.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:23 AM
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8. "Trouncing"
The only people with buyer's remorse are the superdelegates that endorsed Mrs. Clinton before any votes were actually cast.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:32 AM
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9. I don't think you understand.
She needs to win HUGE just to make a dent in his lead--and there's only one poll there that gives her a substantial enough victory.

Sorry, but you don't get props for winning a state you were expected to win in the first place.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:34 AM
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10. That isn't trouncing, that's losing
She will need a much bigger win than that, to stay in the race.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:45 AM
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11. Trouncing? She had a 20pt lead LOL
:rofl:
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:47 AM
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12. MONDAY polls from LAST THURSDAY. thats the clinton logic we've come to know and love
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:48 AM
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14. Weekend polls are taken...
...the Thusday and Friday BEFORE the weekend, Einstein.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:50 AM
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17. The newest poll on there ZOGBY was released April 11. Today (MONDAY) is April 14. Good try.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 07:55 AM by datopbanana
Perhaps you should argue that Obama is Muslim or hates white people. You'll probably have more luck.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:09 AM
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20. "Released" being the key word.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 08:10 AM by DemVet
The data invariably WAS NOT collected during the weekend. Nice try, though.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:14 AM
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22. Hold on. LOL. Are you joking? Are you saying...
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 08:16 AM by datopbanana
a poll that was released LAST friday was polling done from today?


As in THE FUTURE?


WTF if they can do THAT why not POLL ON APRIL 22!!! THEN WE KNOW WHO WINS!!!!!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:49 AM
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35. Are you stupid....
...or do you just portray stupidity on a messasge board?
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:53 AM
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36. i think its a barry bonds type thing in that...
hes been lying so long he truly believes his lies.


and the people playing stupid for hillary so long are starting to become stupid.

or

like when your mom says quit making silly faces it might get stuck

some people are stuck on stupid

like sean hannity according to rev wright.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:47 AM
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13. Bwahhaha what a crock
Hillary already lost and all of you repub-lites can't wish her back to a win. Please go over to the Connecticut for LIEberman Party, that is where Hillary aka Annie Oakley is popular
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:49 AM
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15. Are you on drugs?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:39 AM
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50. lol no really my family thinks I'm nuts really laughing out loud
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:50 AM
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16. Trounce: def. Clinton, 2008; to barely lead outside the margin of error.
:thumbsdown:
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:59 AM
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19. Gee I wonder what you would call NC then? If this is trouncing NC must be a DEMOLITION!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:17 AM
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23. Obama is only going to spend enough money to win the nomination. I have not doubt that his campaign
knows how much they can lose by and still win the nomination, and that's guiding their allocation of resources.

Of course, that doesn't mean that Clinton won't try to spin Obama's losses exactly as you have. That's her best chance to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. (However, I do believe that, if she did get close, Obama would spend more money and win.)
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:19 AM
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24. According to the OP, ZOGBY can poll into the FUTURE. So i say we petition zogby to poll NOV!
who's onboard?
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:21 AM
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25. If Obama is the Nominee, we already know the result:
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:26 AM
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26. HOLY COW!! POLITICO is CLAIRVOYANT now TOO? GIVE ME THE LOTTO NUMBERS ALREADY!!!!!!
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:27 AM
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27. You know who some Clinton supporters remind me of?
The old Communists in the west who have been prediciting the "historically inevitable" collapse of capitalism for the last 50 years.

"Has capitalism collapsed yet, comrade?"
"Not today, comrade, maybe tomorrow".
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:30 AM
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28. If the commies had ZOGBY or POLITICO on their side they'd of known better
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:33 AM
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30. Doomed? As if losing one state is going to erase his lead? Do you think the
superdelegates will abandon him based on one state and not the many before? Insane.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:03 AM
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37. PA rules them ALL
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:46 AM
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33. She takes PA. She loses NC and IN. She also loses the nomination.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:34 PM
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61. she's up in IN
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:20 PM
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64. Yes. But I'm calling an Obama win in the Hoosier State.
I believe he will run very strong in Monroe, Lake, and Marion Counties, enough to off-set the duck-hunting demographic for Clinton elsewhere.
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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:04 AM
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38. The most recent of those is 4 days old. Please remove your head from your ass
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:04 AM
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39. Doomed?
You sound like Skeletor trying to bring down He-Man.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:06 AM
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40. 7.3 percent average down from a 20+ average...
yeah.. she is really trouncing him. :eyes:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:10 AM
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41. From your lips to God's ears...........
Then again, we in the Democratic party seem to like to choose candidates who can't win: Mondale, Dukakis and Kerry come to mind.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:12 AM
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43. why is hillary so intent on seeing that trend continue
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:29 PM
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58. why not add Clintoon to the list of candidates who can't win?
:rofl:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:17 AM
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44. This is why Obamites are desperately trying to get Hillary out of the race!
THEY ARE AFRAID!

HILLARY IS GOING THE BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT!
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:21 AM
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46. President of Pennsylvania maybe...
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:42 AM
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56. And New YORK, OHIO, CA,TX, NJ, MA to name a few.
Those states have all the people...So she'll be president of the people.
Obama will be president of all the bitter people.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:32 PM
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60. Obama leads in popular vote so he'll be president of more people. but argue all you want.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:19 AM
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45. Oh wow...I'm shaking..I'm so nervous...Oooooohh... I can't
wait til the primaries are over so people will treat Hillary like Mike Huckabee. Of course once she realizes she still did not win she will scream about Michigan and Florida!
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:31 AM
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47. I'm getting sick and tired of misleading subject lines.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 09:33 AM by totodeinhere
By any fair measure, having a RCP average of +7.3 and a lead of as little as +3 in at least one poll, which is well within the margin of error, is not "trouncing."

Then apparently based upon these polls in just one state you say that "Obama is doomed." Give me a frigging break. If you want to say that Clinton still has a fighting chance and if she can win PA convincingly then perhaps she can get some momentum, that's one thing, but when you say Obama is doomed you just throw out any ounce of credibility that you might have. Then to add insult to injury, you find the need to use an insulting pejorative about Obama supporters and call them "Obama worshipers."

Your post is totally worthless and it does not advance rational discussion of the issues one bit.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:32 AM
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48. She was up +20 a couple of weeks ago
It's not my candidate who is doomed.

dg
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:37 AM
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49. Really?
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:39 AM
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51. Okey Dokie Annie Oakley
Let me know when the Rifleman stops losing ground to Obama...

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:40 AM
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52. beat me to it
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:41 AM
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54. and the larger picture
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:41 AM
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53. DOOMED! OMG!!!!!
Was Obama ever expected to win PA? No. Move along.......
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:41 AM
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55. Go Hillary!!
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:31 PM
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59. Let Shit Sink!!
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:37 PM
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63. The SuperD's will also see this!!!
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