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BL611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:14 PM
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Angry White Woman
"I cannot believe how angry this makes me. I cannot believe that after the last seven and a half years, I can even get this angry. Yes, I know she is pandering to her audience. Yes, I know she will do anything to get elected. Yes, I know that she and Bill Clinton are corrupt to the core, and that I should have never expected anything better of her. But, please, any of you angry white women who still support this craven shill, don't mention it to me. Do me the following favor -- apologize to your children for not stopping the war that HIllary voted for, the war that is going to impoverish them. Then apologize to them for the effects of global warming that are going to make their lives hell. Then apologize to them for the school shooting they may someday see, the one where the kid gets the guns out of his father's gun case, or buys at a gunshow. Apologize to them for the meaningless wars they are going to fight and pay for. Then tell them that "American values" killed their hopes and maybe killed them. And ask them if they think it's going to be worth it."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-smiley/here-we-go-again_1_b_96374.html

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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:15 PM
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Brava! K&R
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:15 PM
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1. How did a comment Obama made on April 6, get played FIVE DAYS LATER?
what the fuck?

On the day Hillary and Bill were getting slammed for Columbia/Bosnia?
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:19 PM
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4. This was her big gotcha
She had to release it early because Bill couldn't shut up about Bosnia. This was planned (IMHO) to be dumped on Friday or Saturday, the 18th or 19th, too late to do too much in response. My question is what is a Hillary supporter doing at an Obama fundraiser? And recording things? Oh well. The steeling of Sen. Obama continues.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:23 PM
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8. why isn't this a story, in and of itself? BTW, Obama as "elitist" is the frame the GOP have been
salivating over getting a chance to use.
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Ilithiad Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:39 PM
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21. You have an
interesting point here....didn't the Obama campaign say they could neither deny or confirm? This is interesting...very interesting. A clinton spy in Obama's fundraiser....the sound quality of the recording was not that great wasn't it? Like the sound of a tape recorder possibly hidden?
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:45 PM
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22. CNN said she supposedly is an Obama supporter but Daily Kos blogger says her husband gave 25K to HRC
I went to Huffington Post and did some detective work. Here are a few of her previous columns:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler

Pennsylvania Campaign Journal: Obama Hams It Up, Flirts, And Gets A Bit Cocky
Posted April 2, 2008 | 10:01 PM (EST)

Pennsylvania Voters Dismiss Obama's Momentum
Posted April 1, 2008 | 07:23 AM (EST)

Perception of Electability At Stake For Obama In Coming Primaries
Posted March 24, 2008 | 09:26 PM (EST)

Why Clinton Won Texas, And What That Means Going Forward
Posted March 7, 2008 | 02:46 PM (EST)

The Obama Balloon Loses Air Over Texas
Posted March 4, 2008 | 09:14 AM (EST)

.....................

You don't have to look to far to wonder if she was a supporter or a detractor????

You can also listen to all the comments he gave at the fund raiser at this link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-exclusive-audio-on_b_96333.html

..............

Also this Daily Kos posting has information on her:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/12/15638/8512/891/494398

One of the remarks said she gave money to Fred Thompson - ????

AND another person says:

I'm from Oakland and just spoke with one of my friends there. Her husband has donated over $25K to the Clintons. She is an awful person who is damn elitist. My parents were at that very same fundraiser and people are FURIOUS that this happened. This was a private fundraiser and that means private. It was not supposed to be tape recorded or videotaped and they specifically said that you would be asked to leave if you were caught doing so.

................

If someone wants to post this please do - I all ready used my 3 posts yesterday.

Thanks!!!!!







:argh:
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:17 PM
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27. You can have 3 posts every day, I believe. So.. yesterday's gone.
I did post the Kos link in GD:p but can't hurt to post it again. It's getting attention.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 10:04 PM
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29. Excellent detective work!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:17 AM
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34. you go!!!! :) Woohoo! eom
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:47 PM
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23. You nailed it. She and McCain planned this to bring down Obama.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:17 PM
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2. Oh Goody, another I hate Hillary post
This helps your candidate so much
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:19 PM
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3. She's right
So now, Barack Obama tells the truth about conditions as we know them--that the countryside and the small towns are dying in many places in our country, and that the corporatocracy doesn't care enough to do a thing about it. He points out that immigrant-baiting, gay-baiting, gun-baiting, and religious pandering have helped to destroy those towns and that countryside, that those being destroyed have been cynically enlisted by their very own destroyers to provide the votes that help accomplish the destruction. And this is what Senator Hillary Clinton says about it: "Senator Obama's remarks were elitist and out of touch. They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans."

From Senator Clinton's remarks, I infer that to actually see what has gone on in the US in the last 20 years is unAmerican. It doesn't matter who you are, where you were born, what you pay in taxes, what else you might have contributed to the culture, how you vote, who you support. If you don't support fundamentalist religion, job outsourcing, and free access to guns, then you are not even American.




Sorry you're unwilling to see how bad things really are.
:kick:
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:23 PM
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7. If "I hate Hillary" works for you.....so be it
Most of us who have been around for a number of years see many things and have gained enough wisdom to understand that posting an "I hate pick your candidate" thread does nothing to help the opposing candidate.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:22 PM
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5. Oh yea, Hillary supporters are so damn kind to Obama ..
:sarcasm:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:26 PM
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10. I'm not pro-Obama so much as I am anti-Hillary
Believe what you like but what you are seeing is a great deal of real rage toward the Clintons NOT pro-Obama posturing.
Only the Clintons posture for a purpose.
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 10:31 PM
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31. Hate her? No. But many of us are pissed off at the way she is patronizing
and condescending to us, the American people. At least Obama talks to us like we're all adults.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:23 PM
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6. Oh yes, show us your bitterness Obama supporter.
It'a all Hillary's fault. Get it out and then take a Prozac. :sarcasm:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:27 PM
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11. Again, this isn't Obama support ... this is genuine rage toward Hillary
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 03:27 PM by melody
Anyone who doesn't see that she's running a sword through the heart of our party must be working for her.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:30 PM
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15. yea whatever. nt
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DarienComp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:38 PM
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20. Your handle is appropriate, IMO.
It very accurately describes the content of your posts here.
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 10:42 PM
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33. if it's not HIllary's fault then whose is it?
Nobody told her to LIE ABOUT BEING UNDER SNIPER FIRE IN BOSNIA
Nobody told her to HIRE A CROOKED CAMPAIGN MANAGER DOUBLE DEALING WITH THE COLUMBIANS
Nobody told her to ACCEPT 800000 OF COLUMBIAN MONEY INTO HER CAMPAIGN COFFERS
NObody told her to START GOING NEGATIVE AND "THROW THE KITCHEN SINK" AT OBAMA
Nobody told her to ENDORSE THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE OVER HER FELLOW DEMOCRAT
NObody told her to SPEND LAVISHLY SINCE SHE KNEW SHE WOULD BE "INEVITABLE" THEN BE PISSED THAT THE VOTERS LIKE SOMEONE ELSE
Nobody told her to JUMP ON EVERY SINGLE WORD THIS MAN SAYS AND TRY TO USE IT AS A POLITICAL OPPORTUNITY

THERE'S A REASON SHE'S LOSING SUPPORT. IF YOU CAN'T CAN'T SEE THAT, THEN YOU'RE JUST AMONG THOSE DWINDLING DESPERATE HOLD-OUTS WILLING TO SHRED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OVER YOUR CANDIDATE'S EGO.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:24 PM
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9. Apologize to my professor's son who is being sent to Iraq at this very moment.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:31 PM
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16. Tell Obama to quit funding the war. nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:16 PM
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24. LOL!


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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 10:34 PM
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32. Eaxctly. Let our American troops twist in the wind.
Who cares if a bunch more die because they don't have enough body armor or bullets. Let's cut off their funding while they're stranded oversees!

Hillary started it (by voting for the war). All Obama is doing is cleaning up the mess she left behind.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:00 PM
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28. Indeed.
LOTS of apologies to be made there. :(
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:28 PM
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12. Well said and amen n/t
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:29 PM
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13. Apologize For No Safety Net
...that she went around the country with Joe LIEberman touting Welfare DEformed. The one that has plunged millions of women and their children into lifelong poverty. The one that says parenting and traditional women's work of weaving Community is "doing nothing ..." The one that no longer allows women to go to school and learn a trade and/or get a degree, but says that the *only* way to contribute to a community is to work a McJob that pays nothing and exploits you and will never promote you. Then ask your kids if they could really believe Hillary Clinton is a feminist when she is well aware most of the people in poverty in this country and around the world are women and their children when she knows full well and purposefully ignores what Welfare DEformed is doing.

Cat in Seattle
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:30 PM
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14. My son the Kucinich Delegate and his Republican Father in Law Agree on TWO THINGS
Fred Phelps and Hillary Clinton
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:34 PM
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17. Apologize For No Longer Havng A Safety net
...that Hillary Clinton went around the country with Joe LIEberman touting Welfare DEformed just a couple years ago. The bill her husband signed into law that has plunged millions of women and their children into lifelong poverty. The one that says parenting and traditional women's work of weaving Community is "doing nothing ..." The one that no longer allows women to go to school and learn a trade and/or get a degree, but says that the *only* way to contribute to a community is to work a McJob that pays nothing and exploits you and will never promote you. Then ask your kids if they could really believe Hillary Clinton is a feminist when she is well aware most of the people in poverty in this country and around the world are women and their children when she knows full well and purposefully ignores what Welfare DEformed is doing.

Cat in Seattle
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:34 PM
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18. K&R.
Great piece.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:36 PM
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19. BTW I love cranky people - k/r
just sayin'
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Pavarotti Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:20 PM
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25. Does that angry white woman cling to guns and religion?
That's the part that's being left out.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:37 PM
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26. Congratulations on 12 posts. I never would have thought you would make it past 10.
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 04:42 PM by BushDespiser12
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 10:29 PM
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30. Hillary is finished
the more she steps in it...the farther she sinks. I do not recognize this woman anymore.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:51 AM
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35. This angry black woman agrees with that angry white woman, LOL. n/t
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:41 AM
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36. Why aren't Obamites complaining because this mentions demographics and voting?
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 01:41 AM by jackson_dem
Just selective words, depending on whether Cardinal Axlerod wants to suppress the data?
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