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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:24 AM
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New Pennsylvania Numbers: Clinton 50, Obama 44


New Pennsylvania Numbers


Tuesday, April 8th, 2008


From Quinnipiac University poll:

Clinton 50, Obama 44
Dates conducted April 3-6. Error margin: 2.7 points.

http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/08/new-pennsylvania-num...
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:27 AM
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1. kicking!
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:30 AM
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2. Here is more from Quinnipiac
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1284.xml?ReleaseID=1165&What... ;&strTime=0

April 8, 2008 - Obama Catching Up With Clinton In Pennsylvania, Quinnipiac University Poll Finds; She's Losing Ground Even Among Women

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Illinois Sen. Barack Obama is catching up with New York Sen. Hillary Clinton in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary and now trails 50 - 44 percent among likely primary voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

This compares to a 50 - 41 percent Sen. Clinton lead in an April 2 poll by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN uh-pe-ack) University.

In this latest survey, one of the biggest shifts is among women who went from 54 - 37 percent for Clinton April 2 to 54 - 41 percent for her today. A look at other groups shows:

* White voters for Clinton 56 - 38 percent, down from 59 - 34 percent last week.
* Black voters back Obama 75 - 17 percent, compared to 73 - 11 percent.
* Men are for Obama 48 - 44 percent, compared to a 46 - 46 percent tie last week.
* Voters under 45 go with Obama 55 - 40, while older voters back Clinton 55 - 38 percent.

"With two weeks to go, Sen. Barack Obama is knocking on the door of a major political upset in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. Obama is not only building on his own constituencies, but is taking away voters in Sen. Hillary Clinton's strongest areas - whites including white women, voters in the key swing Philadelphia suburbs and those who say the economy is the most important issue in the campaign," said Clay F. Richards, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:33 AM
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4. Hillary voters are finally wising up!
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:34 AM
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5. Interesting info dkf .Thanks for posting!
:thumbsup:
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:33 AM
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3. these seem more realistic than the ones that had 45-45
the other day. I just hope Obama can keep it within 20. If he can do that, it's a win!
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:36 AM
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I disagree, I think the 45-45 numbers are probably closer to the truth than the six point gap.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:53 AM
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8. I hope you're right
I think staying within thirty points of Sen Clinton in PA is a victory.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:55 AM
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10. A 29 point loss was never a victory. Anything over 20 I think is embarrassing.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:01 AM
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11. shhhhhhhhhhh!
I am depressing expectations.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:10 AM
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12. Nobody really buys THAT low of depressed expectations
Argue that anything under 15 points is a victory...though in reality its probably single digits.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:16 AM
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14. I tend to agree, but I'm not sure why.
Obama is closing the gap, I'm convinced, but could they already be neck-and-neck? I dunno.

I've been unable to find other Quinn polling to which to compare these results.
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:36 AM
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6. How soon before PA is "not important"?
By the weekend before the primary Hillary's campaign will declare that PA is not important.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:37 AM
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7. You are right.Sad but true!
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:32 AM
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15. LOL! I certainly wouldn't put it past them.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:54 AM
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9. This is very good news. No wonder Ed Rendell was trying to lower
expectations on the Sunday gabfests. They know Obama's on their heels. I think her association with Mark Penn, and the Bosnia "fairytale" have really hurt her in PA.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:11 AM
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13. One reason polls miss the trends: they don't poll people without
land lines. People with no landline are not polled. Many younger voters only have cell phones.
Always keep that in mind when looking at polls.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:35 AM
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16. Isn't there a new SUSA poll that is bad for us in Pa.?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:55 AM
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17. getting closer
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