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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:35 PM Original message |
Ya know what would make me have a lot more respect for Obama? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. And if he gave a speech... |
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SoFlaJet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. DING DING DING DING |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Fail |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #65 |
81. LOL |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
72. Precisely!! |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
75. They'd call it pandering |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
76. no, Hillary would have to admit |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. He has no power to force a revote |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Hillary's campaign was really successful in one way at least... |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
67. Hillary's campaign will be a textbook on how NOT to win an election. n/t |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 05:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
79. They do like lies |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Yes he can. |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. b.s. - if BOTH candidates insisted on it - it would happen or the Fla. results would count. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. MI's first plan for a re-vote was a caucus. |
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tokenlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. The other "re-vote" plan for MI would have disenfranchised all the.. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. That's debatable. But that's not the point. |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
50. There you go again pointing |
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PetrusMonsFormicarum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. A guest appearance on the Simpsons |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
7. Oh, please. 'There are none so blind as those who will not see'; you're |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Not a lonely place to be these days! |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. Why should he go against the pledge both he and Hillary signed? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Because there was NO PLEDGE not to have a revote. NO PLEDGE. The pledge was about no campaigning |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. She said she knew MI's vote wouldn't count for anything. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. For the second time, that was the EARLY primary. That has NOTHING to do with proposing a revote. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. For the second time: She said she knew MI's vote wouldn't count for anything. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. She knew MI's early vote wouldn't count for anything. Not that any future MI vote wouldn't count |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. No one thought about any future revote, so you point is completely moot. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Now that's some funny logic. |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Know how to use logic, then get back to me. |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
68. BWA-HA! So THAT's how flip-flops are spun in HillaryLand! n/t |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
60. Then why do you keep repeating the same misinformation? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. No, the pledge said no delegates. 100% of delegates STRIPPED. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. Please show me where the pledge even mentioned the word delegate. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. . |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Again, the pledge itself did not have a word about delegates or sanctions. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Not a big fan of reading? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I was looking at a copy of pledge 2, which doesn't mention that. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. True enough... |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. Awww, SNAP!! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 05:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
80. She should have accepted the caucus plan, except she'd rather grandstand than actually have the... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'm guessing: nothing |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
13. Here's some video of Hillary's varying positions on the subject: |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. You didn't seem to read my post; I said that I don't care what Hillary thinks. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. But she's not. She flat-out refused MI's first plan. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. The ONLY reason she wants a "revote" now is because she didn't wrap it up Feb. 5th. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Again, I don't care what her reasons are. I care that it isn't happening, and that Obama is |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. He is NOT preventing it from happening. He's following the rules. She's trying to change them. |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
69. I see. You have as little integrity as Hillary does. I don't hink I would like HillaryLand. n/t |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
14. any respect would be more than you have |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Lol at all the drama. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
21. FL and MI broke the rules. ALSO, Hillary planned on wrapping up the nomination on Feb. 5th; |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
73. Rules? RULES?! Wait, wait...oh, for a second I thought you were talking about Hillary there. |
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Florida22ndDistrict (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
22. re: Ya know what would make me have a lot more respect for Obama? |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
24. A lot of Floridians will NOT vote in the GE if they don't get a re-vote/or votes to count. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Hillary's a sitting US senator , and was a shoo-in for the nom... but the party isn't pro-women. |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. and how many females are in the Senate? and was she REALLY a shoo-in? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Does it matter how many? Does the party stop them from running? |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
59. That was before all the right/left media attacks - a lot of them sexist.... |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
64. Is a bunch more than 10? 20? What about the electorate that is not following he said she said? |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
26. Aaaaaaaaah, the Hillbot talking point for the day... |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Um, he doesn't. You go away. |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. How do you feel about Hillary actively campaigning pledged delegates to disenfranchise the people th |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. I disagree with that, as I actually said in my OP. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. See the GDP board....see at least two Hillbot threads on this. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Talking point of the month is more like it. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. I'm frankly amazed that ANY member of DU would call the right to vote in MI and FL a "paper-thin" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Learn. |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
33. Uhhh yahh, that's it. Obama needs to make another speach. What Ever, |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
40. What a coincidence.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
47. Deleted sub-thread |
Raejeanowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
51. It Would Be Great If The Voters Were Heard |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Then take this whiny BS to the state forums, cause it's the state legislatures |
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Ronnie (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
56. So, basically, you think that Senator Obama |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
61. The Only Way Some Of You Could Respect Him Is If He Was Married To Bill |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
62. The Only Way Some Of You Could Respect Him Is If He Was Married To Bill |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
63. The revote costs many millions, literally |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
66. You know what would make me have a lot more respect for Hillary?... |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
70. He doesn't NEED to, and therefore he will not. |
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Aussie leftie (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
71. I dont care who said what and when |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
77. I'm pretty sure Obama can win Florida in a general election. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
78. Obama could do this and spend her into oblivion. |
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FedoraLV (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
82. He didn't give a speech |
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TTUBatfan2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
83. And Hillary's not an opportunist? |
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