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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:58 PM
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Oops, Clinton lying again???
So, I miss two days sick and I miss two more lies?

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/04/oops_another_clinton_story_tur.html

Oops. Another Clinton Story Turns Out To Be Not So True
I've heard Hillary Clinton tell the story many times in speeches, and it rarely fails to bring a horrified gasp from the crowd: An uninsured and pregnant Ohio woman, working for minimum wage at a pizza parlor, is turned away from a hospital because she can't come up with $100. The baby dies, and so does the woman. Clinton talks about how this woman haunts her, and how stories like this show the moral imperative--and the urgency--of fixing a badly broken health care system. (You can see a video here.)

Except, it turns out, it didn't happen--at least, apparently, not the way Clinton said it did. There was indeed a tragedy last August in Athens, Ohio, in which a woman, Trina Bachtel, gave birth to a stillborn baby and subsequently died herself. But the New York Times reports this morning that the hospital involved says Bachtel had coverage,and received treatment. And here's the remarkable part, given how important this story has become to the overall narrative of the Clinton candidacy:

Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February.
A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that.”


And another??

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/in-oregon-clint.html

In Oregon, Clinton Makes False Claim About Her Iraq Record Vs. Obama's
April 06, 2008 9:49 AM

In Eugene, Ore., Saturday. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., attempted to change the measure by which anyone might assess who criticized the Iraq war first, her or Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., by saying those keeping records should start in January 2005, when Obama joined the Senate. (A measure that conveniently avoids her October 2002 vote to authorize use of force against Iraq at a time that Obama was speaking out against the war.) She claimed that using that measure, she criticized the war in Iraq before Obama did.

But Clinton's claim was false.

Clinton on Saturday told Oregonians, "when Sen. Obama came to the Senate he and I have voted exactly the same except for one vote. And that happens to be the facts. We both voted against early deadlines. I actually starting criticizing the war in Iraq before he did."

It's an odd way to measure opposition to the war -- comparing who gave the first criticism of the war in Iraq starting in January 2005, ignoring Obama's opposition to the war throughout 2003 and 2004. (And Clinton's vote for it.)


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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:59 PM
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1. Save yourself time,
and just look for the truths from the Clinton Campaign.
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:08 PM
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2. No
That will take him longer.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:09 PM
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3. oops!
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 05:08 PM
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4. Welcome to Parseland - right over here we have the Clinton exhibit ...
:kick:
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