Kerry-McCain 14-Point Advantage Over Bush-Cheney

[DrFunkenstein]

WASHINGTON - The hypothetical pairing of Democrat John Kerry and Republican Sen. John McCain holds a double-digit lead over the Republican ticket of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, a new poll finds.

Kerry-McCain has a 14-point advantage over Bush-Cheney among registered voters, 53 percent to 39 percent, in the latest CBS News poll. The lead is nearly double the edge Kerry alone enjoys over Bush.

McCain set off speculation in April when he said he would consider an offer from Kerry, a Senate colleague and fellow Vietnam veteran, to be his running mate on the Democratic presidential ticket.

But McCain has said several times since then that he supports Bush's re-election and does not want to be anyone's vice president, although he continues to be talked about as a possible choice for Kerry.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040528/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_mccain_2

[mzmolly]

1. And ... let me be the first to say ... *poop*

:hurts:

[saracat]

6. Crap!

am sooo tired of this. McCain is a Repug bastard.

[MrSlayer]

2. That's great, I'll take the 8 point lead without him thanks.

We don't need a Puke to win.

[ibegurpard]

17. THANK YOU!

eom

[JI7]

3. i like this one

[fujiyama]

5. That's a funny pic

It looks like McCain just had a big meal and is really tired...

Or is wondering to himself, "why the can't I run with this guy...Instead I'm kissing that brain dead AWOL chimp's ass".

Oh well that's McCain's problem. We can win without him...he's welcome to join the dems, but we don't need a republican to win this.

[JI7]

7. while i don't support mccain for vp

that picture did show that the two guys would probably get along really well and are comfortable with each other. and i believe that is one of the reasons kerry mentions him so much. for those who haven't read about their relationship they became very good and close friends during the vietnam pow/mia investigation. when they were first in the senate together mccain did not really like kerry because of kerry's war protests and he felt betrayed so he avoided and ignored him. but they had their first conversation with each other during that investigation and they immediately became good friends. they felt a certain connectedness and of course they visited vietnam together again for the investigation. so if kerry says anything nice about mccain it's not really a sign of him looking to mccain for vp or anything. it's something he would probably say no matter what.

[fujiyama]

8. It seems as though

they are friends (I'm sure McCain gets along better with Kerry than he does with Bush)...and Kerry hasn't been trying to plug McCain as blatantly as Lieberman was (Lieberman kept claiming he would appeal to "McCain independants")...but mentioning McCain doesn't hurt though...as long as it doesn't look like your desperate or pandering.

[jeff30997]

4. A democrat President with a republican vp?

Did it happened before in US history?

[shawn703]

9. Before the politcal parties ran tickets it did

That's how Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) became the VP for John Adams (Federalist).

[dsc]

14. no since the ticket system

but the opposite happended. Lincold ran with Johnson who was a Democrat.

[Padraig18]

26. 1864: the opposite occurred

Lincoln ran for POTUS (Republican) with Andrew Johnson as VP (Democrat).

[bitchkitty]

10. Would everyone PLEASE THINK?

If Kerry picked McCain, and won, then something happened to Kerry, we'd have a REPUBLICAN President. Has that crossed anyone's mind?

[ed_vadem]

11. I sure have and

this is why I just don't buy into this scheme

[foo_bar]

13. a RINO president

He seems less bent on placating the right than our guys. Who knows, he could be a flaming Eisenhower liberal with the reins of power.

[bitchkitty]

18. Do yourself a favor

and do a little research on McCain. HE IS A CONSERVATIVE. He will never be liberal, not in anyone's wildest dreams.

[foo_bar]

19. this one has some pretty wild dreams

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23933

[bitchkitty]

20. Worldnet Daily? Consider the source. n/t

[foo_bar]

21. "not in anyone's wildest dreams"

Consider the source.

[bitchkitty]

27. It's called an expression.

This conversation is over. No point in trying to converse with someone who thinks that McCain is anything approaching liberal.

[Hippo_Tron]

24. I think by somebody he meant somebody with some level of intelligence...

I wouldn't be surprised if WorldNetDaily's webmaster was Tom DeLay.

[Auntie Bush]

15. That would double his chances a having a plane crash.

[Hippo_Tron]

23. McCain becoming president isn't what I'm worried about...

John McCain would be a decent president, MUCH better than shrub. But the fact is that this is the DEMOCRATIC ticket. Meaning, you put DEMOCRATS on it. The Republicans would have a field day if McCain were nominated, saying that we are so desperate that we put a Republican on the ticket.

[ngGale]

35. You bet and a 'Pro Life' one at that...n/t

[AP]

12. If Kerry-Bush could get 100% of the votes, would you want that ticket?

[troublemaker]

32. Yes, definitely

A 100% vote to demote Bush would be a remarkable development and certainly healthier for the country than any scenario we are realistically entertaining. (Yes, that's an impossible outcome, it's your hypothetical)

[dArKeR]

16. DUBYA IS TRAILING 8 POINTS

From Anthony Harwood, US Editor In New York

PRESIDENT George Bush was last night lagging eight points behind rival John Kerry in the polls as voters turn against him over Iraq.

Only 41 per cent of Americans plan to back Dubya while 49 per cent would plump for Democrat Mr Kerry in the presidential elections in five months time.

Mr Bush got his lowest rating in the poll for CBS News. Voters are disillusioned about his policies in Iraq as the death toll of US soldiers nears 800 and because of the PoW abuse scandal. Voters' support for Mr Kerry will put more pressure on Republican Senator John McCain to join the Democrats as a dream team.

The CBS poll found they would have a 14 point lead over Mr Bush and his vice-president Dick Cheney.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/tm_objectid=14285582%26method=full%26siteid=50143%26headline=dubya%2dis%2dtrailing%2d8%2dpoints-name_page.html

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. That's pure bullshit.

Who did they poll? A bunch of freepers? They must consider the votes they will LOSE from Dems if they run McCain with Kerry...like ME!

[troublemaker]

33. They did consider them.

Sorry, but your viewpoint has been factored in; it's just no a very widespread viewpoint. If McCain is worth 8 points and people like yourself are 5 points than McCain adds 13 points and subtract 5.

The people polled here are literally the same people that favored Kerry by 8 points in the same poll... they ask the people multiple questions. A fair sized group of those people that picked either Bush or Undecided when offered Kerry/Edwards opted for Kerry/McCain.

[He loved Big Brother]

25. Another speculation

Also known as more of "the media picking our candidate for us".
Why are they even asking this question? And a Kerry/McCain ticket sure as hell wouldn't get my vote.

[w4rma]

28. McCain is a good an ethical person, imho, but his position on trade sucks.

imho. Sen. Edwards has a *much* better position on trade and is also almost as well-liked as Sen. McCain.

[Rose Siding]

31. His goodness and ethics took a hike on this one-

snip>
In a disgraceful example of irresponsible self-censorship, the media buried a recent incident stunning in the depth of its sleaze. McCain, reveling in adoration at a Republican fund-raiser and sure his joke would go no further, said:

"Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly?
Because Janet Reno is her father."

Maureen Dowd (NY Times) took McCain to task, saying, "he is so revered by the press that his disgusting jape was largely nudged under the rug," but she didn’t repeat McCain’s words.

McCain apologized to President Clinton after news of the joke became public, but did not apologize to Chelsea Clinton or Janet Reno. "This is the bad boy," McCain said. "It was stupid and cruel and insensitive. I’ve apologized. I can’t take it back. … I was wrong, but do you want me crucified?" He added, "I will always maintain a sense of humor. Life is too short not to."

Life is too short to keep filling Congress with men with such attitudes. Hate doesn’t slip out of the mouths of people who don’t think that way in the first place.

http://www.wcla.org/98-summer/su98-15.html

[beaumandy]

29. Stick with a democrat for VP

It's pretty sad when we have to get a Republican on the ticket to win an election. It's selling out and looks like we can't field a strong ticket that is based on democratic policies.

the republicans think it's hillarious that it's even being talked about.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

30. Sounds like a DLC dream ticket. DINO + RINO

Both pro-war, both vets, both "moderates". Both would fit under the "One Big Tent", "One Big Party" mantra of the DLC.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

37. DRAIN-O?

:shrug:

[DrFunkenstein]

34. I Can't Believe How Silly Y'all Are Being Over This

There's no way in hell that Kerry would do it. The Democrats would have his head.

However, they - unlike many here - understand that talk of McCain is an absolute Godsend for the November elections. First of all, it keeps Kerry's name in the news, which in itself is more valuable than you realize. Second of all, it creates the impression that there is a major schism happening within Republican ranks. This undermines any bandwagon effect people might have for voting Bush. Third of all, it reinforces Kerry's Vietnam resume with added legitimacy by bonding with someone who was not anti-war on returning (not to mention a leading voice on the Abu Ghraib panel). Fourthly, it touches keenly to the spirit of bipartisanship in the service of country Americans (not necessarily us activist-class folk) long for.

I'm really surprised at the inability of so many here to see this transparent ploy for what it is. This is great political theater, a grand gesture of uniting the country, but don't believe for a moment that it is more than a gesture, albeit a very effective one.

So many people here fail to give Kerry any credit for running a really smart campaign. They expect that politics should be played straight up the middle every time. But politics is for chess players, not fullbacks. Which is why activists rarely make for successful politicians.

You may not like Kerry's incremental liberalism, but he will effectively push forward our agenda further than any other person out there, regardless of how far out on their sleeve they wear their beliefs. So, I'm sorry if you can't understand that the talk of McCain is actually in the service of pushing forward the liberal agenda, but that is simply the case here.

[in_cog_ni_to]

36. Thanks doc...I feel better now.

;).