Time for KERRY to start swinging

[radfringe]

just had a little conversation with my partner regarding the latest terralert...

she mentioned the connection between terralerts and bush*'s poll numbers to her boss (boss is a Republican)

he said "You know, I was just talking to my wife about that last night... but what's Kerry doing?"

Boss is not happy with bush*, but he's undecided about who will get his vote because he see's bush* screwing up, and Kerry just "shutting up" -- Boss is leaning towards bush* because he see's nothing from Kerry

made me wonder how many other people out there feel the same way -- looks like the "..better the devil you know than the one you don't..." syndrome

In light of the latest terralert -- we need to get some noise going about the lack of security, lack of training, lack of equipment and lack of personnel needed to PREVENT and to RESPOND to a terrattack

bush* has cut funding or refused to release funds to these areas, for all his bluster the doors are even more wide open with invitations being handed out to terrorists to come and smack us again

KERRY NEEDS TO START SWINGING, HE NEEDS TO PUT OUT HIS PLAN NOW!!!!

I don't think he can afford to reel out more rope and wait around for bush* to hang himself

[azmesa207]

1. Time for Kerry to start swinging

His plan is out there your Wifes boss a republican will vote for bush no matter what Kerry says Kerry has just put out how he would handle the terrorist problem he has a plan for the Iraq war The Media just does not put it out It Bush's war let him fix it I tired of people complaining about Kerry he is doing just fine

[democracyindanger]

2. President Gore gets it right

From his recent moveon.org speech:

"Kerry should not tie his own hands by offering overly specific, detailed proposals concerning a situation that is rapidly changing and unfortunately, rapidly deteriorating, but should rather preserve his, and our country's, options, to retrieve our national honor as soon as this long national nightmare is over.

Eisenhower did not propose a five-point plan for changing America's approach to the Korean War when he was running for president in 1952."

[Old and In the Way]

11. Exactly.

The American public is smart enough to understand this. Who knows what the condition of Iraq will be in 7 months? I doubt Bush is including Kerry on his strategies. You can almost guarantee that any position Kerry takes now, this administration will do precisely the opposite. Why should he paint himself into a position that would likely be non-operative or even limiting of our options when he takes over in January?

[MoonRiver]

3. Exactly what is Kerry supposed to do?

Every time I hear him give a speech he's attacking b*shco and giving alternative plans for the war on terra plus reinforcing the fact that * has screwed up royally in Iraq. * is finally following Kerry's plan on Iraq, and Kerry might start repeating that fact. But otherwise I don't know what people want from Kerry. His ads are great, but a short sound bite cannot detail complex policies. Kerry will never get as much air time as * but I think he's doing a terrific job anyway.

[sandnsea]

6. Call them personally on the phone

Because I swear I don't know what else he could do.

[JI7]

17. for some who seem so concerned

about these things, you would think they would at least do simple things such as check out his website. when he gives detailed speeches they start complaining it wasn't entertaining enough for them.

[Kahuna]

4. I guess you missed the news today.

People ought to make sure they have exhausted the news before they make such sweeping statements.

[radfringe]

22. caught a quick news blurb on Kerry just after I posted the thread

Glad to see that he is addressing the issue.

Yes, I've kept up with Kerry's website, plans etc. -- the problem seems to be that this information is not getting out to the public in the bite-size pieces that can be easily "swallowed"

as an incumbent* -- bush* has the advantage of sending his minions out onto the airwaves to basically do alot of campaigning for him under the guise of "special announcements" or "news briefings"

meanwhile -- my terralert/poll number chart has been updated
http://radicalfringe.freeservers.com/

[sandnsea]

5. Time for people to just PAY ATTENTION

http://www.c-span.org/

Second link down on the left. More to come.

[Kahuna]

9. Right. People think they should get the news through osmosis...

Or people think because other people who never mine for news says there is no news, that must make it true. :eyes: Kerry has a website open to the world where they can see ongoing releases of his statements. Don't say that Kerry isn't doing this or that until you at least visit his website first.

[Sparkly]

7. Linked on the FRONT page of CNN.

Kerry on security:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/27/kerry.security/index.html

[Padraig18]

8. "Never step in front of a perfectly good train wreck"

Rule #1 of Chicago politics. Kerry's handdling this just right by letting others do the blasting for him, a la Al Gore.

[blm]

10. Send him these press clips from the last two days.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/

You don't want to blame Kerry because the media wants to cover American Idol over Kerry's national security speeches, do you?

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

12. yoo..hoo..john? John? JOHN? WAKE UP! You'll miss the bus!

Where is Kerry?

[blm]

13. Where have you been?

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/

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[monkeymind]

15. Kerry has no motivation to do what is right

look at the army of apologists he has.
He could say that abortion should be outlawed and everyone would say its a great "strategy" because in their insane minds the issues are unimportant.

Kerry has a MOUNTAIN of ammunition to use on Bush, starting with the actions of Asscroft on civil liberties.
Oh yeah, dont rock the boat John you might offend a repuke or an ignorant "centrist" with no grasp of the issues.

I'll probably be banned because I want Kerry to run a better campaign and beat Bush.

[Sparkly]

16. To whom are you referring

when you discuss this "army of apologists" in whose "insane minds the issues are unimportant?"

As for civil liberties, have you read Kerry's website?

You sure don't sound like a Kerry supporter.

[Name removed]

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[Sparkly]

20. That long? n/t

[JI7]

18. so why isn't kucinich doing better ?

[Dookus]

23. You will hear all that when the campaign

is really underway. This is just the warm-up, and he's already leading. Patience... patience. The election isn't next week.

[molly]

26. Kerry isn't a screamer

[Nicholas_J]

21. Not really

It is not worth the effort to start swinging before the actual fight has begun. This period is more like the pre fight advertisments where everyone is taking bets on the winners, and buying their tickets.

Until the actual nomination, there is no real point in engaging in fighting. Kerry has proven over and over again, that the best time to fight hard is just prior to the actual election, and not to go into attack mode mothes and months ahead of time. If anything proved that is a bad strategy, it is the fall of Howad Dean, who started out in attack mode even before other candidates had thrown their hats into the ring formally. He was attacking Kerry and Graham in the days prior to their formal announcements. In then end, it was Kerry who waiteduntil the actual voting season who has become the defacto nominee, and not Dean, the pugnacious fighter.

And it is Bush who is burning out his attack material, and not Kerry, who is rising and rising in the polls. Bush is wearing out every possible thing he can attack Kerry on, and people like Hannity must resort to the same old tired attakcs on Kerry, and has less and less to defend Bush on.

There is absolutely no reason to plan to kill someone who shows every evidence of being in the act of comitting suicide.

[GalleryGod]

24. Well put,once MORE, NICK!

:toast: Thanks for hanging around here, you're a Class Act!

Your Man in the Faculty Lounge:hangover:
a-waitin, on Summer Term......
GG:smoke:

[molly]

25. Yeah team!

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

:toast:

:party:

[JayS]

27. "it is Bush who is burning out his attack material"

Good insight Nicholas_J and I agree with you totally except for the statement referenced above. There is no telling what the Bush Camp has stored in its arsenal. Most likely we will not know what is there until it is too late, especially if everybody freaks when we try to rationally discuss what they are up to.

I watched the race for Governor here in Texas, a race which Bush was in no way expected to win. The attack machine was impressive in a sick sort of way, particularly the last minute volleys. Needless to say, Bush won.

[beaumandy]

28. Kerry has a problem

The more Kerry says he is going to fight terrorism and crush people and ask for more troops ect. he is going to piss off the people who are against the war.

These people feel like they don't have a candidate who shares their beliefs so how can they in good faith vote for Kerry. Afer all, he is starting to sound a lot like Bush at this point when it comes to Iraq.

A lot of these people, and I have met many of them, are going to vote for Nader just because he voices their views.

This could kill Kerry just like it did Gore.